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The Real Reason American is Failing

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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 21, 2011, 5:19:44 PM PDT
A. Gruel says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 21, 2011, 5:31:19 PM PDT
C. Stalmer says:
I suppose the liberal agenda of big government running our lives has nothing to do with it. What made the United States great was not the Government controlling people lives. It was the Government protecting the Rights of the People to do what they want and staying out of their business. Free market capitalism is what built America and created the standard of living that stood above all else for many years. Human nature is that people will work hard to better themselves people do not like to work for the collective. Free market capitalism encourages people to work and to create business. It also happens to bring a few extra people along such as paid employees. Not a perfect system because the goal for any business is profit and not to have any overhead and to pay out as little as possible. Regardless of that, if capitalism is so bad then why did China adopt Capitalist reforms to improve itself as well as Russia? The Countries that have embraced capitalism have flourished where as those countries that have turned toward socialism are withering as shown by what is happening in the European Union. There are more Billionaires in Russia now then there are in the United States. These are economic facts not skewed statistics. Now answer this, does the Liberal left in the United States want less government and more economic freedoms or do they want more taxes on the Wealthy and more social programs that do not produce anything? I bet you will answer this if at all with an expletive and insult then question my education. One more thing, please keep your political agenda out of the Auto forum.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 21, 2011, 9:26:18 PM PDT
Pauldog says:
Your front end, or your car's front end?

Posted on Sep 22, 2011, 7:53:13 AM PDT
Joe Average says:
Free market capitalism is great but it lacks a conscience. I'll argue that the corporate flavor of capitalism has gotten so large than the private business can no longer compete in those sectors. As the Mom 'n Pop stores have disappeared and the franchises have locked up some areas entirely leaving very little opportunity for anyone else to compete.

The other problem with that lack of conscience is the finance business which will gladly take everything a private citizen has in fees and penalties if that citizen is dumb enough to take on a financial relationship (load, investment, credit) that they can't afford.

The last aspect that bothers is me is what I call the "Second Coming of the Robber Baron". Some well moneyed interests in our country have gotten so large and so rich that they control our government and thus our democracy. They are like a couple of former employers are greedy and use up people and toss them away like people were office supplies. The company pays peanuts, pays their top level amazing incomes with all sorts of perks and complains to me that they can't afford to give me a 25 cent raise and oh by the way, I need to work Saturday (on salary so no overtime). One of my former employers is hemorrhaging employees and they don't care b/c in this economy they'll always find a replacement cheap. The top level management laughs all the way to the bank. They might not last but for 25 years they'll wreck marriages, health, and so forth for the guys that try hard to do right by the company and their financial responsibilities.

And yes, I know we can't legislate a conscience and people are free to leave for greener pastures. And I did. And so have hundreds of others from that company. How does a person encourage the greedy and abusive to change their ways? I don't know...

I do know that this GOP push to repeal regulation of WalStreet is not going to end well. This is just leaving everyone exposed to the greedy, lying individuals who will take our economy down again. If we let things go left enough we're in trouble. If we let it go right enough (and as former Republican it further right already than it ever has been in my lifetime) we're going to have problems too.

The GOP solution is to throw it all out the window. That'll create a window of opportunity for some people to abuse the system until politics changes to the left again for a while. Then those laws will be rewritten, called something else and they may or may not accomplish anything worthwhile.

What need our politicians to do is quit feuding and start fine-tuning again. Simplify the laws. Close loopholes. Eliminate redundancies. Learn to speak in plain terms and throw in a little truth occasionally.

The GOP is going to lead us right down the drain and the Dems are too weak to steer us on a different course. It's time for a third party and not the Tea Party either - to offer up some intelligent solutions and debate because none of the current players are worth much. I won't vote Republican again until they start making sense.

Posted on Sep 22, 2011, 7:58:55 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 22, 2011, 8:02:26 AM PDT
Joe Average says:
The liberal left irrationally want all sorts of things - among them more taxes. At the same time the GOP irrationally want various things such as low or non-existent taxes on the wealthy while our military fight 2.5 wars and our credit rating has been reduced.

Don't listen to what either party SAYS. Look at what they DO. The GOP spends alot of time talking about families, Main Street, Apple Pie and Christianity. What they do is help WalStreet sink our collective boat (economy) though all sorts of sweet deals. The Dems aren't much different here. If either party wanted to actually fix the economy they'd be stimulating the economy and requiring the money to get spent on things that employed Americans and profited American factories. They return to tariffs and taxes on goods produced here by non-Americans and sold here. They make sensible adjustments to the budget and taxes that fix the budget deficit rather than the circus we've witnessed.

The two parties advertise themselves as vastly different but their actions show that they are very much alike in the long run.

And this is why it is time for a 3rd, 4th and 5th party in the USA.

I guess if people would turn off the football game, turn off their talent show or put away the video games for a while and STUDY we'd start to see more informed voters. If nothing else I'd like to see the uninformed voters stay home. No more "I voted for Sarah Palin b/c she has a cute smile" or "I voted for Barack Obama b/c he is black" (black/brown/negro/whatever). Without our entertainment and other distractions perhaps we'd hold our politicians' feet to the fire more often when they say one thing but fail to mention the rest of the story.

Yeah - why is this thread is the Automotive discussion area?

Posted on Sep 22, 2011, 10:08:36 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 22, 2011, 10:09:42 AM PDT
Joe Average says:
I thought this was an interesting quote from an article: "Still, credit the Times-Free Press for this spot-on Phil Cooley quote: "That's the biggest problem in Detroit, the millionaires and billionaires who own the majority of the city and just let it sit there. They're making us look bad."

When people at the top get too much control through money and political clout, they control the futures of millions of other people by occupying all the opportunities that would otherwise be spread across thousands if not millions of entrepreneurs. One person can become become an obstacle to millions of others. I'd rather see America be a nations of hundreds of millions middle class (sub $250K) people earning solid futures and paychecks than a nation of a few wealthy and millions of people struggling to make a living and to me that is what we have now. What is it - 2% of Americans pay 40% of the taxes? Well, yeah - makes sense b/c what is it 400 families control ~50% of the wealth in a country where 350 million people live and work...

Posted on Sep 22, 2011, 12:02:16 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 22, 2011, 12:07:43 PM PDT
Joe Average says:
Anthony - was says you?

Dunno whether this is real or not. Keep waiting for them to try to sell me something. I have a friend who hangs on this guy's every word.

Posted on Sep 22, 2011, 9:41:25 PM PDT
Bearwood says:
The problem lies with Accountants being creative to get better bottom lines. Trouble with this is that they aren't dealing with real money, it's all done on paper, until it all goes wrong and then the problem is so big it takes the company down.
Consumerism has got way out of hand, nothing can be repaired now, it's all throw away.
Don't worry it's a world wide problem just America leads the way.

Posted on Sep 27, 2011, 11:13:33 AM PDT
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B.Forstner says:
It's because our public servants have stopped serving the public. Period. Name any "failure" and it all comes back to our public servants not doing their original job. Example of a failure: General Electric paid $0.00 (that's zero) in taxes for 2010 and they did it legally. Google it. My niece paid more taxes at her waitress job than GE. That is ONLY possible because our public servants legislated it. And that is because after two terms they all become tainted. As part of the example, of all the lobbys the financial lobby is the most powerful in Washington. Therefore, that is who our public servants serve foremost. There is no other way for GE to legally pay no taxes than to have it legislated accordingly.

Our Congress has no term limits so they have become immune to us. They can play chicken with the U.S. economy every few months and hold us all hostage because they are insulated. It's a few hundred ivy league peacocks strutting around the Hill. Their paychecks and insurance and retirements are all guaranteed. AFTER THE SECOND TERM THESE GUYS BECOME WORTHLESS. By then they've made too many side deals and compromises and IOU's to private entities to ever be effective again. They all go from public servant to ROCKSTAR and they all need to go.

"Hey look, papparazi are falling over some arrogant jerk." "Is that a rockstar?" "Oh, no it's one of our public servants." Term Limits must be legislated because everyone blindly loves "their guy". "My guy is fine, it's the other side that's the problem." NO. After 2 terms in the system EVERYONE becomes useless. If they knew they can't be reelected they would do things differently.
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Posted on Sep 27, 2011, 11:25:39 AM PDT
Joe Average says:
Try not to group ALL public employees with the politicians. A statement like that might in some folks' minds lump meter-readers, teachers, NASA scientists and politicians all into the same group...

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 27, 2011, 11:31:45 AM PDT
B.Forstner says:
And look beneath all of that. Accountants are doing it legally because the legislators make it possible. The financial lobby is the most powerful in Washington. When GE legally paid $0 in taxes for 2010 it's only because Congress somewhere at some point made it legal. Our public servants no longer serve the public. They all need to be kicked out every 2 terms instead of this lifetime politician routine.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 27, 2011, 11:33:47 AM PDT
B.Forstner says:
I couldn't find the word "employee" in my comment. Where did you see "employee"?

Posted on Sep 27, 2011, 11:46:58 AM PDT
Joe Average says:
I'm not arguing with you - I think you are right. :)

Around here public servant is used interchangeably with public employee. Yes I recognize your terminology is more correct than mine but around here people are going to hear P.S. and think employee which is anyone that collects a gov't paycheck. Depending on the sophistication of your discussion partner, they might even include state and local employees with federal employees.

Posted on Sep 27, 2011, 2:14:01 PM PDT
Joe Average says:

Thought provoking!

I liked this comment (not mine): "Everybody should pay ten percent. Everybody. The Republicans are defending the rich because they ARE the rich. When are we going to stop beating around the bush and label these two parties "Management" and "Labor"?"

Posted on Sep 27, 2011, 2:16:31 PM PDT
Joe Average says:
From the article comments: "Americans have been successfully fed the "if it cant be done for a profit it shouldn't be done at all" ideology so that corporations can make massive profits (as they are doing now) without putting anything significant back. The democrats have no solutions but the Republicans will only make the situation much worse."

Posted on Sep 27, 2011, 2:17:21 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 27, 2011, 2:24:56 PM PDT
Joe Average says:
From the article comments: "Obama should be selling the public on "fair" treatment with respect to the tax burden, i.e., no special breaks (tax breaks and subsidies) for corporations and the wealthy. We should also treat capital gains no differently than other income for tax purposes. How is income from investments any different than income from labor?"

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 27, 2011, 4:04:37 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 27, 2011, 4:19:56 PM PDT
Eco-Humanist says:
Overpopulation / birth control is why America is failing. We do not have enough jobs in America to support the number of people. We do not have enough good schools and good teachers to educate children.... adults for the future
Small Farms, Mom and Pop cafe's, mom and pop gas stations, grocery stores - all gone to big Corporate stores and farming mega corporations. The service economy is all that is thriving and yet we already have enough electricians, plumbers, garbage men, pool cleaners, and grass cutters

Religion is the second reason America is failing. The crazy fairy tale believing Mom and Pop believe having 4 - 12 offspring is something blessed by an invisible being. Then years later they wonder why they are malnourished, eating, fried butter and bread, and can not afford to pay for even one child going to college

Women should all get Norplant at the first sign of puberty - and every 5 years thereafter until they can pass a test on motherhood and have been educated and employed for 5 years and married at least 2 years. Men should receive reversible vasectomies also at puberty and not be able to have them reversed until they take a test of fatherhood and have been gainfully employed for 5 years and married at least 2 years ....problem solved - in 2 generations

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 27, 2011, 7:19:10 PM PDT
Art Thompson says:
I think 6 years and 40,000 miles is pretty good for a set of OEM tires. Plus, I don't wait until they're bald to replace them. I prefer safety over milking every last penny's worth out of something.
Getting an alignment is a pain because I keep my money local - I get my tires from Joe the local mechanic. He can't afford the equipment to do alignment, so I would have to go somewhere else.
And Anthony, if you knew anything about good ol' American Ford engineering, you would know that Ford designed the Marquis for old farts like me - loud directionals, and arrow to remind me where the gas tank is, automatic headlights, and automatic turn the lights off after 10 minutes even if you left them on manual!
If you want to blame high gas prices on gas guzzlers, go ahead. I get 25 MPH in my rolling living room. But look at it the other way - Thanks to Prius owners and the like, it helps keep gas prices lower for just a few more years so I can drive a big box. Thank you, to all those people that suffer in claustrophobic cars for the sake of the environment. And gas guzzler owners.
By the way Anthony, I agree with your OP 100%. I apologize for the grammar comment - too many commas made it hard to digest.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 28, 2011, 12:13:06 AM PDT
eric says:

Also, I would give you the specs if you mentioned the year.

Posted on Sep 28, 2011, 2:13:08 AM PDT
J. Yi says:
America is not failing, but some americans are falling behind. America doesn't have a standard to follow to be falling below, as america is the world, who is 1/3 of the world economy and uses 1/4 of world's petroleum. In fact America is the one that that is setting the standard for others to follow or tobe graded upon.

For each and every americans to be excelling instead of falling below the standard, each and every americans will need more financial freedom. The society poses a statement of problem to everyone of americans that in order to get anything you have to borrow first, that includes education. And if americans accumulate any wealth, heavy taxation follows. There the freedom limiting factors.

We the america must do away with any personal tax, that includes income tax, and property tax. Also all education must be free of charge. Then who pays for the government spending, that has to come from businesses and corporations that earn income from society.

All corporations have to be employ owned therefore it will not be controlled by the outside interest. In a gist of story, you control your own destiny and not be controlled and squashed under a mountain of debt, also if you are fortunate to have accumulated wealth you can keep it all without taxation but here is the catch you cannot pass any of it as inheritance.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 28, 2011, 7:14:12 AM PDT
Joe Average says:
Eco-Humanist: And our overpopulation in relation to jobs isn't going to get any better with continuing advancements in automation. With current technology we COULD automate an entire McDonalds. Perhaps one person around to press a reset button occasionally. We COULD automate an entire grocery store. Gone would be all the entry level jobs the uneducated rely on now. Then what do they do?

This WILL happen eventually.

What you mentioned about religion is good. The politicians and religions of America have the perfect opportunity to come to the front of American debate right now with new ideas - creative solutions. Instead religion (around here anyhow) is occupied with whether the gender of your bed partner is the same or different. No debate about the effects DIVORCE is having on families and children. No the small percentage of Americans who choose same sex partners is somehow a bigger threat than broken homes and single moms just getting by.

Don't really think women SHOULD get the Norplant but I'd surely rather have the government encouraging reckless people to get "fixed" so they don't have any children or more children that they can't afford or don't want. I'd gladly pay taxes to that versus the war machine our government operates. I wouldn't mind seeing Norplants and whatever the male equivalent would be available to everyone cheap from a gov't clinic. Of course the Sunday morning crowd would be up in arms but for the life of me I can't see their logic (maybe there isn't any). Some of the age-old religious rules sorely need to be updated like the Catholic aversion to birth-control when it is OBVIOUS that unwanted/unplanned/unprepared for children is a huge burden in developing societies not to mention the good old USA.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 28, 2011, 7:17:41 AM PDT
Joe Average says:
A.Thomson - you'd need to do the math to see if they work for you but I've been buying Michelins that last 80K miles. About 8 years ago I was buying 45K mile Bridgestones and they didn't do anything better for me and vibrated alot for their last 30% of tread life (re-balance and the vibration came back after a few months). My Michelins have been smooth from day one until the end.

The math would reveal whether this is cost effective by your measure. For me tires that are smooth and vibration free their entire useful lives is worth a bit more $$$. A big RWD car might mask the vibrations better than my CUV.

Posted on Sep 28, 2011, 7:45:02 AM PDT
Joe Average says:
"We the america must do away with any personal tax, that includes income tax, and property tax. Also all education must be free of charge. Then who pays for the government spending, that has to come from businesses and corporations that earn income from society."

It's far, far too easy to abuse this standard though. If everyone had some ethics that would be fine but in a short time we'd have a wealthy class that controlled everything for the rest of America through political donations and political graft.

Wait... Hey - we already have that - even with the taxes!!! ;)

I should have read the rest about not being able to pass on the wealth. That's where we differ. I like the idea of being able to help my children - - - to a point.

What I'd like to be able to do is help them buy a house and skip a lifetime of mortgage interest so that when they reach adulthood they'll be able to do the same for their children. That dream will be a stretch as we don't even have our own mortgage paid off yet (see the recession for reasons why).

Perhaps the key would be to limit inheritance to $500K or less. With the current political climate I can't imagine who you'd ever pass a rule like this. Well, how you'd ever pass it with ANY political climate. How does a gov't justify taxing inheritance at 100% beyond some threshold? The rich would simply gravitate to wealthy tax havens and move wealth out of the country one way or another, legal or not.

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