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So do Conservative Christians hate Mormons again?

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Initial post: Nov 6, 2012, 10:07:33 PM PST
emac says:
You all voted for Mitt. Now will you say he is part of a cultist group? He is good enough for your vote, but not part of your view of Christianty?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 6, 2012, 10:43:26 PM PST
Eric Pyle says:
Mitt who?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 6, 2012, 11:13:24 PM PST
Blu Boy says:
Interesting question. I for one would hope to see a world where we give less and less a crap about what any religious group thinks of another. It does seem to be only in recent years that question would not automatically start a conflict between religious groups.

Posted on Nov 7, 2012, 2:07:40 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 7, 2012, 2:09:56 AM PST
Joe Anthony says:
I'm not a fundamentalist Christian, and I'm certainly not part of the Christian Right; but I know them well as some of them are family members. Moreover, I've always been interested in history and American politics and I feel as though I've a pretty good sense as to how people of various demographics vote.

I think that the Christian Right/Christian fundamentalists just sort of held their noses and voted for Romney. Indeed, they didn't really vote for Romney as much as they voted against Obama.

Some of them may see Romney as part of a false religion; but they also see Obama as a Godless socialist or even as a closet Muslim. That's the mentality your dealing with, not with all of them, but some of them.

I could be wrong but that's my analysis.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012, 6:49:09 AM PST
emac says:
True, not all. But those others you mention are real gems.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012, 8:20:56 AM PST
Craig says:
I think you nailed it. I was having a discussion at church with someone recently, and the person claimed Obama is a Muslim. That is one of so many reasons I am leaving the church.

Posted on Nov 7, 2012, 8:43:09 AM PST
Alan says:
The wise authors of the Constitution went out of their way to keep religion out of government. Of course, they were not, in the main, Christians but Deists

Posted on Nov 7, 2012, 8:57:24 AM PST
I strongly suspect many mormons over the age of 40 actually do believe in Jesus Christ as Messiah, but secretly wonder if the entire Joseph Smith and Brigham Young thing was an excuse to get a lot more thousands of acres of free land in Utah and more poon tang from a steady stream of 14 year old new wives.

Religions have been started for less.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012, 9:04:13 AM PST
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Posted on Nov 7, 2012, 9:39:28 AM PST
Jesus would have bish-slapped Mitt for being the crazy Mormon that he is.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012, 9:44:25 AM PST
that is so sacreligious

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2012, 10:01:03 AM PST
Craig says:
Did you see I said one of "MANY", and that isn't just one persons attitude, it is the general attitude of most fundamentals I know.

Posted on Nov 7, 2012, 6:01:52 PM PST
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Posted on Nov 9, 2012, 4:33:02 AM PST
emac says:
Bump. I want to hear from christrians who posted on anti Mormon threads who voted for Mitt.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 9, 2012, 4:46:24 AM PST
Bubba says:
andthehorseirodeinontoo? says: "that is so sacreligious"

So what? Why does that matter?

Posted on Nov 9, 2012, 1:26:06 PM PST
emac says:
Bump again

Need to know. Salvation depends upon it.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 9, 2012, 1:55:44 PM PST
mrs exp says:
Your salvation or theirs? I voted for Democrats against the Republicans whoever they may be. They scare me. Except in my beloved state of California I had no choice except republican for a state office because they passed a stupid law that puts the top two of the primary election on the ballot.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012, 2:51:46 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 10, 2012, 3:48:37 PM PST

Mr. Critic

Are you aware the Mormons were driven out of Nauvoo by an armed mob and had to head West to escape death. They already had lands and homes and didn't need to trek two thousand miles west across hostile territory with a conspicuous lack of asphalt roads or road signs, and settled where they hoped to be left alone, in a DESERT, with NO water, until they dug canals down from the mountains (try it sometime). They did have the Great Salt Lake, where ocean liners from the Pacific were said to bring in young women for wives, but in retrospect, the Pacific Ocean has no connection to the Great Salt Lake, so some of those stories in the eastern press may have been a bit exaggerated, by about fifteen hundred miles. I have a book, written by a prominent Protestant minister, with very impressive illustrations of these great ocean liners, with sides which open to dump the young women, all dressed like Queen Elizabeth, rolling on their sides, parasols in hand, into the temple, but somehow I can't figure how these grand ships made it across the Sierra Nevada and the Rocky Mountains to get to the Salt Lake temple, which is located thirty miles from the Great Salt Lake. This same geography surely seemed to slow down the Donner party (I notice you do not accuse the Donner party of evil attempts to get free land), but then maybe the Donner party didn't want to buy a ticket on those fabulous ocean liners, which served only nonhuman cuisine. Maybe I have no imagination, or maybe the minister had his pants on fire.

Can you cite a single example of a 14 year old wife? I live a few blocks from the main documents expert on Mormonism. The documents of the early church are presently being assembled and will be published to stop a lot of the nonsense going around. Non Mormons are among those cataloguing and commenting on the documents. I asked the main editor. No 14 year old wives there. No slaves either, which is more than you can say for most religions. A photograph exists of Brigham's wives, and they seem closer to 104 than 14.

As I do genealogy, I do note,however, that back in the early years of America, it was not uncommon for 16 year olds of ALL religions to marry. If you have ancestors from that period, as you surely must, you can thank those "premature" marriages for your existence. They also had far fewer divorces than today. Makes you think.

There were VERY FEW Indians living in Utah because the land was so dry and desolate and would not support a population. They were also few in number because the dominant tribe would kidnap other groups and take them down en masse to San Bernardino as slaves to sell to Spanish landowners to work in mines in Mexico. (Brigham persuaded the Indians NOT to take slaves). As to the thousands of acres of free land, the US govt still owns it. They hold about 75% of the state, every square inch taken from the indians, because Brigham forbid it to the Mormons. They traded for their possessions. When the first group entered Salt Lake Valley atop Emigration Peak, they could see the color in the huge mountains on the other side of the valley and one of the leaders commented to Brigham, who was sitting in a wagon, sick with Rocky Mountain spotted fever) taht there was a fortune there. Brigham said it belonged to the Indians and would not let them touch it. No mining. When Johnson's Army came to Utah to wipe out the Mormons, on a false report, the officers saw the green and blue in what became the Bingham Copper Mine. They went back to Washington and had laws passed to give themselves the mining claims for their "heroic" military service, which amounted to nothing as the Mormons were not in rebellion at all. My family are converts to the Mormon church. My relatives trace to a Captain who filed for the silver claim which became Park City. When the money flowed, none of the family were Mormons at the time. The head guy sold his interest to the Guggenheim family in New York. More wealth has been taken out of the Bingham pit than any other mineral deposit in the world. Not a cent went to Mormons. As Brigham said, it belonged to the Indians.

Right after the eastern press gets Benghazi straight, they may manage to get the early history of the Mormons straight. Mormons far from perfect, but then, who is? Most conservative American protestant religions trace from Congregationalists, who did the Witch hunts in Salem. A few skeletons in the closet for any religion.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012, 2:59:22 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012, 3:09:45 PM PST
emac says:
You are unique Exp. That's why I dig you.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012, 3:13:02 PM PST
emac says:
That is true

I am trying to ascertain whether the conservatives were holding their nose or something else.

I think this is an important discussion.

I will continue to bump this thread until I hear from those conservative christians posters.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012, 3:50:19 PM PST

Move to Northern California. I don't think they have any Republicans up there.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012, 3:59:20 PM PST
mrs exp says:
And I dig you. BTW have you joined a church yet?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012, 4:08:12 PM PST
mrs exp says:
William Dampier,
We've had a Republican representative for 12 years. Couldn't get rid of him. He retired. We still have a Republican representative

Of course you are probably thinking of San Francisco & Sacrament which are in middle California.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 10, 2012, 4:56:06 PM PST

That church or all churches? They truly aren't the same.
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