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In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 8:59:30 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 8:59:57 AM PDT
reply to Kathleen M. Pelley's post:

sounds like you got one of the 60+ wacko break off sects from the original COG that herbert armstrong started. except they never had teh crazy beliefs you do now.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:00:34 AM PDT
then either he is perfect

or you are not listening carefully and critically to verify what he says

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:01:10 AM PDT
kathy

never threatened you with anything

just told you to read the bible and see what God says will happen

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:01:41 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:01:49 AM PDT
if he is a person he is fallible

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:02:28 AM PDT
nobody insulted you

stop grabbing for awards you did not earn

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:03:25 AM PDT
i would say that only applied stephaniewise if you were a true Christian

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:03:42 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 31, 2012 9:10:33 AM PDT
B. Josephson says:
Stephanie: Believing in God is not enough. Jesus is not a liar.

Response: Did you think that the passage in John 5 said believing in God is enough. I don't think it does. I guess if you only read the first few verses you might think that, but I did not only quote the first few verses.

And I never said Jesus was a liar.

And thanks for the wonderful scriptural passage.

Though I particulary like verse 16 of that chapter.

Best Wishes,
Shaamba Kaambwaat

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:04:09 AM PDT
you are lying to yourself

there is only one true path
you keep denying what Jesus said

so you are lying to yourself about what you claim to be too

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:05:34 AM PDT
that sounds like some ocd rcc thing my bridge partner does

gets up at 3am every morning to go sing for an hour from 4-5am
so that the singing will never be unbroken.

what a bunch of OCD pharisees with that nonsense.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:06:05 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:06:55 AM PDT
B. Josephson says:
Stephanie: As for the comment about not knowing the Bible, you indicated through you posts that you did not know it. You did not provide any evidence of it until later

Response: Stephanie I have been providing evidence that I know the Bible for years on the Amazon forum. And I have usually received a more loving response than yours when I asked people to quote Bible verses as I have been doing for those years.

Stephanie: Everyone has sinned. We are all sinners. (Romans 3:23)

Response: Glad you recognize that.

Best Wishes,
Shaamba Kaambwaat

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:10:11 AM PDT
B. Josephson says:
I think God determines who true Christians are, not fallible human beings.

Best Wishes,
Shaamba Kaambwaat

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:11:27 AM PDT
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reply toStephanie Mayberry post:

he was good till he got his DD degree
then he started changing

what use to be useful lessons are now dull boring and too long
graduate seminar sessions that have no value for us
although some people eat it up

i think we should be meeting the needs of those who have not heard and believed instead of going beyond pharisee on the details that are irrelevant to all but a rabbi or priest teaching in the seminary

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:12:31 AM PDT
reply to B. Josephson's post:

absolutely
which is why i did nto take a position either way
but stated it as a conditional

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:14:15 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 31, 2012 9:14:58 AM PDT
B. Josephson says:
The problem is that perhaps your pastor was teaching the truth, and you were the one not in tune. So you went shopping for a church that taught what you like.

It is always easier to say that the pastor was wrong than admit you might yourself be wrong.

I can't judge who was right or wrong in your case, but not only preachers are sometimes wrong, but so are people in the congregations.

Best Wishes,
Shaamba Kaambwaat

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In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:25:36 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 31, 2012 9:30:43 AM PDT
reply to B. Josephson

yes

but when the bible says one thing and he twists it to say something else
so who knows what to believe then

the problem is that the bible is full of errors omissions contradictions exaggerations plus parables similes metaphors symbolism allegories and other obfuscations
and you can pretty much make it say anything you want it to

so ----
why does everyone get wrapped around the axle about meaningless trivia instead of focusing laser like on the one true message that could be told in a lot less than an hour+ of bloviation repeated ad nauseum over months with constant revisiting and rehashing a handful of verses that are irrelevant while ignoring the true message.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:29:11 AM PDT
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reply to Stephanie Mayberry's post:

and what would be the right balance ?

all i see the the nonsense trivia being emphasised

cant recall when the true gospel got taught

oh, it got mentioned in passing last easter. but the rest of the year it was non stop adoration for jacob. i was almost ready to change my bumper sticker to jacob saves. this year he beats to death a verse or two in phillipians every week. then he wonders why he makes an altar call and nobody comes forward. any visitor that came in one week, never came back teh next week after such a long winded irrelevant bloviation about meaningless trivia. what does preacherman think is going to happen ??

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 9:30:10 AM PDT
I have to say that while aware of the Spirit it is unclear how it fits in.
Jesus seems to be key. Can I do anything to/with the Spirit by myself?

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