Industrial Deals Beauty MagazinestoInspire STEM nav_sap_plcc_ascpsc Starting at $39.99 Grocery Handmade Wedding Rustic Decor Home Gift Guide Off to College Home Gift Guide Book House Cleaning _baw _baw _baw  Introducing Echo Show Limited-time offer: All-New Fire 7 Kids Edition, starting at $79.99 Kindle Oasis Trade it in. Fund the next. Water Sports STEMClubToys17_gno
Customer Discussions > Classic Movie forum

Roundtable Discussion (Part 2): Screening Films from Hollywood's Golden Age

This discussion has reached the maximum length permitted, and cannot accept new replies. Start a new discussion


Sort: Oldest first | Newest first
Showing 126-150 of 1000 posts in this discussion
In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 11:20:16 AM PDT
Nancy says:
Good Morning Baron,
Its 11:25 am here and yes, I'm enjoying my Box Set Law & Order Season 7. Wanna finish it before I dash of to Texas. One week to get my things in order (0_o)
Nancy

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 11:26:40 AM PDT
Nancy says:
Dear Kim,
I have not seen the movie because I read the book, and I felt alittle weird how they were gonna handle some scenes. What do you think? Should I give it a chance?
Nancy

Posted on Apr 11, 2010, 11:41:52 AM PDT
Nancy

I say this cause I love you: See the Movie! It is powerful; I couldn't get over liking the thing so much. The frankness as to the mechanics of their lovemaking was done as artfully as it could be done. But I'm no expert on those kinds of scenes because I just don't watch 'em much! Her being read to as a condition for sex was fascinating. His dramatic readings, and finally, the way in prison the literature pierced her conscience...it was all so beautiful. Sad but lovely.

The pain her shame of not being able to read causing her to join the Nazi's where one didn't have to be literate to be effective was alarming! In the end, the fellow seemed to realize that his shame of that relationship was causing him personal problems....in short, the things we do to cover-up awkwardness can be worse than the inadequacy... Fabulous stuff.

Of course, I can't compare it to the book. But if you think that I was able to get hold of the right theme of the story in the film then perhaps you would appreciate it too.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 11:47:36 AM PDT
Nancy says:
Thanks Kim,
It will be on my wishlist postwith (?)
Love Nancy....Happy Reading! I'm reading "Fantasy Board" a small paperback about guys hooking up with guys on the Internet (0_o)

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 12:07:31 PM PDT
Grant says:
Great post ronzo. I haven't seen that one. Nice analysis.

Yeah, I saw an interview with Mann and he talked about his displeasure with the Glenn Ford Cimarron. The problem was more with the script IMO. It added things that were never in the book and left a ton of stuff out. But it doesn't feel heavily edited IMO. I haven't found any info about Manns feelings about the script itself. I think it's interesting that Mann has three distinct phases to his career. Noir, Westerns and Historical epics with a dash of other genre's thrown in for good measure ie the occasional WW2 filck and things like The Glenn Miller Story.

BTW, speaking of Mann, they're showing Devils Doorway this week.

Posted on Apr 11, 2010, 12:09:42 PM PDT
Grant says:
THE READER is a good movie, watched it last year.

Posted on Apr 11, 2010, 12:29:54 PM PDT
Didn't Kate Winslet get the Oscar and the Golden Globe for "The Reader"? I seem to recall that.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 12:29:58 PM PDT
Nancy says:
Thanks Grant.

Posted on Apr 11, 2010, 12:30:33 PM PDT
Grant says:
Baron:

I have to ask, because if anyone watched it besides me, it was you, lol. Did you catch Logans Run on TCM last night? That movie is one of those "so bad it's good" type of films. I can't believe how dated it is, lol.

One interesting note about that movie that I read recently is that MGM bought the rights to Logan and then strip mined it's contents and used many of the key plot points in MGMs SOYLANT GREEN. Then when it came time to make Logan, they had to rewrite much of it because they had already used it's contents in the other film, lol. Soylant is based on the Harrison novel "Make Room! Make Room!" but there is very little of Harrisons book in the film and more of Logan. For example; In soylant green, the scene where Robinson goes into the suicide chamber to die, that's taken from Logans Run the novel.

Anyways, thought I'd mention that. Still, Ustinov is a crack up in that movie. Man, that is one cheesy film, lol.

Posted on Apr 11, 2010, 12:41:02 PM PDT
BTW, the novel "Logan's Run" was cowritten by William F. Nolan
and George Clayton Johnston.

Johnston did some original Twilight Zone episodes and William
F. Nolan is a notable modern day pulpster.

Tom

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 12:45:49 PM PDT
Nancy says:
I think she got a Golden Globe.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 12:48:42 PM PDT
Nancy says:
Grant,
I have that movie in DVD. I like catchin Farrah in it, she was at her most beautiful I think.
Nancy
PS. One of my Favorites

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 12:54:12 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 11, 2010, 12:56:25 PM PDT
Grant,

re: Logan's Run

Now you're talkin'! :-) LOL

I own that DVD. A guilty pleasure, maybe, but it's a sentimental favorite. This is one of those dystopia/science fiction movies that I always would watch when it ran on TV in the 1980's. It does come off very cheesy today; that table-top cityscape with the vehicles running around... the pastel costumes... the plot... Peter Ustinov and his kittys... Farrah and the face makeover shop... the runners' hideout... it goes on and on.
But when I was a kid it was awesome, hee hee.

There are things I like about it (the score is unique in its way) and things I find hysterical or really lame (it is often really preachy, too, come to think of it). I am not familiar with the book, though.

Based on the Making-Of documentary that I've seen, I think this must have been a major release for MGM in 1976 because they hyped it up the wazoo at the time. I think they must have felt that they were trying to sustain big-time moviemaking. This was probably right before they would have to tear down their backlots and sell the property.

Ustinov is wonderful in it, though. I really enjoy this character and especially Peter's delivery and timing and little mumblings/comments.

Gee, now I want to dig out that disc and enjoy it, lol. Wonder what the alleged upcoming remake will be like.

Soylent Green is interesting, too. I'm not wild about it even for a dated/cheese appeal. I got that film as a bonus when I bought TCM Greatest Classic Films Collection: Science Fiction (2001 A Space Odyssey / Soylent Green / Forbidden Planet / The Time Machine 1960) for films The Time Machine and 2001 and Forbidden Planet.

Posted on Apr 11, 2010, 12:55:26 PM PDT
Grant/Baron

I was told that Kate won Best Actress last year for her portrayal here. Grant, I am glad you enjoyed the film as well. I don't know if I ever thanked you for recommended "Saratoga Trunk" as a good Ferber. I would like to see that film, too. Ingrid Bergman, nicht wahr??

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 1:00:05 PM PDT
Nancy says:
TOM,
I've never seen "Soylent Green" but did see the "Omega Man" plus "The Last Man On Earth" and "I am Legend."

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 1:12:19 PM PDT
Nancy says:
Baron,
The Island reminded me of "Logans Run." I had no idea they were remaking it.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 1:58:00 PM PDT
Kim:
I don't blame you!
On the other hand it's really rather unique!
I think the "von" would be better!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 2:18:41 PM PDT
ronzo says:
Grant,

What I know is Mann was "withdrawn from Cimarron [1960] toward the end of the shoot". That doesn't sound simply like a script problem ... as you figured he already had that figured before filming?

I look forward to your views on DEVIL'S DOORWAY. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 2:22:39 PM PDT
Nancy,

re: the "Omega Man" plus "The Last Man On Earth" and "I am Legend."

All three were based on the Richard Matheson novella "I Am Legend". Great read. No movie has captured it completely for my money. There's one scene in particular that had me on the edge of my seat. I won't spoil it, though.
The movie version with Will Smith was entertaining but not satisfying overall. CGI vampire/zombies that looked see-through, plus they took major liberties with the book-- don't get me started, lol. Disappointing deeply, considering this film took years to get finally made (everyone kept wondering when it would get off the ground, who would play the lead, etc), and then they #$@%&* veer away from the heart of the book. Sheesh.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 2:25:52 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 11, 2010, 2:26:47 PM PDT
(spoilers)

Nancy,

I read that "The Island" with Ewan McGregor was a ripoff of a 70's film called "Parts: The Clonus Horror" which involved mega-wealthy men creating clones of people so they could harvest and use their organs and body parts in order to live longer.

Supposedly there was a lawsuit over plagiarism. Shades of "The Terminator" and author Harlan Ellison, hee hee.

Mystery Science Theater 3000 had fun mocking "Parts", particularly the scenes with Peter Graves. Funny stuff.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 2:30:18 PM PDT
ronzo says:
Nancy, Baron

I liked Matheson's "I Am Legend". IMO, it is best as a book anyway. No amount of vampiric hazing onscreen can match what your imagination can concoct.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 2:39:33 PM PDT
Ronzo,

True. No movie could do it justice, it seems. The "movie in your mind" is so much better while you're reading the story.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 3:01:27 PM PDT
ronzo says:
Grant,

KAGEMUSHA (1980)

Did you at any time say to yourself "David Lean", during this film. lol. I think I did about a half dozen times or so. Of course, Lean too was a master of combining a beautiful story with wonderful visuals. My favourite shots generally involved architecture: the opening of the soldier running down the stairs, the building facades, and the scene where the window is opened and a stick is placed in the frame so you can see the snow falling outside. The rainbow scene near the end was one of my favourite non-architecture shots. Few directors ever achieve shots that lovely, and K. does it throughout the film. AKIRA KUROSAWA'S DREAMS has some wonderful color cinematography too, but the plot is entirely different ... nothing epic in it. The youtube clips are too choppy to really appreciate the image, but here is a blurb to give you can idea. If I remember correctly, there are 4 vignettes or so that make up the whole; each section is beautiful and entirely different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TbDSi_K-FY&feature=related

The music was a bit uneven, IMO. The percussion stuff was great ... things like when the soldier was running down the stairs. But there was some classical stuff round the mid-section that didn't seem to fit the mood very much.

The acting was great all round, wasn't it? That is a big thing in Japanese film; the actors look to me that they are really parts of their period. When Hollywood does it, it is Peter Ustinov, with a garland on his head! LOL! Special aside: Takashi Shimura ... who plays Gyobu Taguchi is also the lead in IKIRU; a modern day man dying of cancer. It is amazing that this fellow has played both roles so well. Here is a clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mLrLHDdXHI

So it is on to RAN tonight. I think I've figured out why I favour RAN, but I will watch it to make sure I really DO!! lol.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 3:12:21 PM PDT
Baron:
I have the same collection from TCM.
I also got a Sinatra/Kelly collection from TCM with "Anchors Aweigh", "On The Town" and "Take Me Out To The Ball game".
Great films all.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 11, 2010, 3:35:05 PM PDT
Nancy says:
Thanks Baron,
It shall go on my never ending book list :)
Nancy
Discussion locked

Recent discussions in the Classic Movie forum (354 discussions)

  Discussion Replies Latest Post
the restaurant at this end of the universe 6989 9 hours ago
The Baronzo Creative Writing Thread (a place for an even more casual conversation) 5314 10 hours ago
Roundtable Discussion (Part 3): Screening Films from Hollywood's Golden Age 3592 12 hours ago
CLASSIC MOVIE CHATLINE ~ Part Seven ~ (our place for casual conversation) 872 13 hours ago
"Talk of the Tome": Bookish Conversation Devoted to both Literature and Film 9312 20 hours ago
DISH WASHING forum - a place for venting :?O 2469 1 day ago
The Obituary Thread (to acknowledge and honor entertainment figures and classic movie stars who we've lost recently) 5184 6 days ago
Classic Movie Reviews on Youtube 1 Jul 15, 2017
Coolest movie lines of all time 3083 Jun 4, 2017
Classic era HOLIDAY films, or any that include HOLIDAY SCENES 438 Apr 29, 2017
World War II movies The best to watch 108 Apr 27, 2017
Classic Romantic Comedy movie- Can't remember the title 1 Apr 25, 2017
 

This discussion

Discussion in:  Classic Movie forum
Participants:  38
Total posts:  10000
Initial post:  Apr 7, 2010
Latest post:  Oct 19, 2012

New! Receive e-mail when new posts are made.
Tracked by 7 customers