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Cheapquels (Sequels) officially stopped production, I´m thrilled Are you??


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Initial post: Jun 16, 2009, 6:16:33 PM PDT
John Lasseter, the new leader of the animation division for both Disney and Pixar had announced that aside from Tinkerbell and the Air Bud movies, they are not going to produce any direct to DVD cheapquel (sorry, sequel) to any other Disney Classic Film. After spending more than 10 years ripping off the original films into meaningless, stupid, cheap and souless sequels, Disney finally had got to its senses again (thank God it purchased Pixar). For me this are excellent news but I want to see what do you think about this decision. Please Comment

Posted on Jun 17, 2009, 11:57:52 PM PDT
Cherub says:
I totally agree!!!! I refuse to purchase any "cheapquels" - love the term by the way! Fortunately, I was able to convince my son that they are not worth buying.

Posted on Jun 18, 2009, 5:57:16 AM PDT
compsciguy says:
I know! There's like 20 sequels to the original Land Before Time! That's more that those retarded Friday the 13 movies!!

Posted on Jun 18, 2009, 12:42:13 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 31, 2009, 9:43:51 AM PDT
Yeah, but only some clarifications. Friday the 13 and the Land before time are not Disney (land belongs to Don Bluth). We are talking about movies like Cinderella II, The Little Mermaid II and Bambi II and all the others stupid movies that downgrade the quelity of the originals.

Posted on Jun 25, 2009, 2:22:19 AM PDT
S. Johnson says:
HAAHAAHAA yall crack me up!

Posted on Jun 25, 2009, 2:26:02 AM PDT
S. Johnson says:
Yes Don, I am THRIILLLLED they stopped production on those "cheapquels". Thanks for the laughs; yall made my day!

Posted on Jul 4, 2009, 3:55:31 AM PDT
Kit says:
I don't understand how it matters that much, now that the "cheapquels" have already been around for so long and have already become a "new Disney tradition" or whatever. (What impact is it really gonna make, stopping them at THIS point? Or...were you really very worried that there might be hundreds more? Hmmm.)

But...well, okay, I'm glad that some of you are so thrilled. ^_~

By the way, I definitely agree that there were waaay too many sequels to The Land Before Time (although it is not a Disney movie). (Three or four would surely have been plenty???) (And anyway, the FIRST Land Before Time movie remains the *only true classic* in the series. I did not mind when there was a [short-lived] animated TV series of The Land Before Time. But those other Land Before Time movies...should have BEEN an animated TV series. They were cute, but only just barely worthy of the name "films". Would've been a cute TV series, though. ^_~)

Just a little side note...personally, I DO think that SOME of the sequels-to-Disney-classics ARE worth watching. (I even think that Cinderella III told us more about true love than the original Cinderella movie did.) I do dislike the *endless stream of sequel after sequel after sequel* but at the same time, I think that tarring them all with the same brush and calling them ALL garbage...is prejudice. (Go ahead and claim that this post doesn't add to the discussion, if you like. I think it adds to the discussion, so...go ahead and think it doesn't, if you want, that's your business.)

Posted on Jul 5, 2009, 5:59:26 PM PDT
I totally disagree. Cinderella III can't be compared to the original beginning with the animation. The animation in the original is beautiful and detailed, in the third one is well... cheap to say the less. The message in the original is not about true love, is about dreams coming true. Well, I can agree that Cinderella III is one of the best cheapquels, we can classify them in bad and awful, this one is in the bad category. I think that suspending production of this movies right now, makes a lot of difference because now we can be sure that Disney will deliver quality products instead of quantity and yes I'm thrilled that this horrible tradition comes to an end.

Posted on Jul 5, 2009, 8:36:30 PM PDT
Kit says:
"The message in the original is not about true love, it is about dreams coming true."

Well, primarily, yes, but it's about true love ALSO. Just...not quite enough for my taste, I guess. (Please see my comments about the Prince, in the "Sequels" thread. Poor guy hardly even got to be part of the story, seems to me. In the FIRST Disney Cinderella movie.)

(I guess since all my favorite versions of Cinderella emphasize the true love angle to some extent, I want that to be there. Besides, it IS a lot of what most of the "falling in love and finding your prince" fairy tales are about. YES, she followed her dreams and her dreams came true, but I think it would be safe to say that at least some of her dreams *were of* finding someone to fall in love with and live happily ever after with.) (Snow White singing "Someday My Prince Will Come" was singing about dreams *of love* coming true. Seems to me like that's also what Cinderella was dreaming of. ^_^)

As to "now we can be sure that Disney will deliver quality products instead of quantity"...I am not altogether sure how you can be so sure. (Quality instead of quantity...yes, a very nice thing, but not necessarily *always* delivered by Disney in *every* not-a-sequel movie. Although I do think that for the most part [and for the many reasons that have already been mentioned...including cheapness!] they DO tend to do BETTER [though not as well as they perhaps COULD if they tried harder and believed MORE in quality than they already do!] with movies that are NOT sequels.)

Posted on Jul 6, 2009, 6:00:14 PM PDT
You can see my opinions of the prince in the "sequels" discussion. I agree, Is not a guarantee that Disney will deliver Quality products right now, but we can have higher hopes than we did, primarily because now all the movies are going to be released theatrically so that means more money and hiring more experienced men and women to do the job. Of course there is no security that the product will be good but overall I think it will improve and we can expect better things from them from now on.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2009, 7:59:01 PM PDT
Kit says:
Yeah, I think we can agree that (for the most part) they tend to do it better when they do it more professionally/more theatrically. (Not always a guarantee of *excellent* quality even then, but...yeah, there's hope. ^_~)

^_^

Posted on Jul 14, 2009, 1:31:03 PM PDT
P. Horvath says:
Hey! Don't forget Mulan II and Emperor's new grove two! I don't think it gets any sadder than those, because the first of each of those movies were amazing, but the sequels were real, real sad. Oh, by the way, do you know about Toy Story 3? I know nothing about the movie, but the teaser trailer was really funny, so...........yeah

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 23, 2009, 6:34:40 AM PDT
Kit says:
I thought Mulan II was fairly good, just not as special as the first one.

And I honestly like The Emperor's New School TV series (it's funnier...to me, anyway ^_^) better than the Emperor's New Groove movie (not sure I ever saw a sequel to it). (Malina and Kronk were pretty funny in the [first] movie...and up to their same old tricks [as in the TV series]...but honestly I thought everyone else, including the emperor, was pretty boring in the movie, and then the TV series was when it got more fun. ^_^) (The Aladdin TV series was pretty good also. Too bad it's not on any more, not even in reruns. And The Little Mermaid TV series was okay [if a bit babyish at times].)

Anyway...I really don't agree with the original poster that ALL the sequels are ALL bad. Yes, a lot of them do stink, but some really don't. (Even the "cheap" ones, the direct-to-video or direct-to-DVD ones, are not always ALL bad.)

I think the original poster basically just wanted to find a bunch of people who would COMPLETELY agree with him or her. And for the most part, he or she didn't find that here, because fortunately we all have our own individual opinions! ^_^

Kit =^__^=

Posted on Aug 23, 2009, 7:43:28 AM PDT
While it is true that many of the Disney sequels do not compare in either animation quality, story line or soundtrack there are a few exceptions. Notably, Lion King 1 1/2, Tarzan 2 & best of all...Toy Story 2 (PIXAR of course). Thank goodness John Lasseter has stepped in to fix the woeful Disney Animations Studios offerings since they attempted CGI instead of classic hand drawn animation. Born & raised a Disney baby in the 50's I still give each new film the benefit of the doubt & try to watch at least once but do not own even a handful of sequels. Even recent first run offerings, The Wild & Meet the Robinsons were ghastly & not worth owning in my opinion. Now that my own children are grown I am on my third iteration of watching Disney Films going from seeing them for the first time as a child to watching through the eyes of my children to now scrutinizing the art of each film from backgrounds, layouts & sound. It has been a disappointing transition from beautiful hand drawn films to the modern computer era...except for Pixar's offerings which just keep surpassing themselves with each release. I believe that this is the first summer in many years that Disney has not released a new animated film...UP is PIXAR (a class unto itself). So while we may not have any more "sequels" I do hope there will be some return to the original high quality animated productions that Disney set the standards for.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 23, 2009, 10:53:38 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 23, 2009, 10:54:34 PM PDT
Kit says:
Disney did release Ponyo this summer (August 14th).
(Ponyo isn't really even originally theirs, it's originally from Hiyao Miyazaki, just the new/American version is Disney's.) (I saw it advertised as both "Disney's Ponyo" and "Hiyao Miyazaki's Ponyo". I was glad that at least the second way of advertising...was *one of the* ways that were used.)

Still, though...the American version is a Disney release, and the starring voices in it are those of Noah Cyrus (Miley Cyrus's little sister) and Frankie Jonas (the Jonas brothers' little brother).

Disneygal 4 ever...that's a good post you wrote...I agree with most things in it. ^_^

Kit =^__^=

Posted on Aug 24, 2009, 12:14:12 PM PDT
Ronnie says:
Nice, but I think by and large the cheapquels may have been crap but a select few deserve praise- Mostly the Aladdin sequels, Lion King 1 1/2, and Buzz Lightyear of Star Command: The Adventure Begins.

Posted on Aug 31, 2009, 9:42:34 AM PDT
Well, I think I need to do some clarifications:

1. I didn't create this discussion to find people that think exactly like me, that's why I wrote in my first post that I wanna here all the opinions. So kit, if you like the cheapquels so be it, I don't have any problems with that.

2. This discussion meant the direct-to dvd movies that Disney had been releasing since 1994. Toy Story 2 is a completely different matter. That movie is superb and one of the best sequels and movie I´ve seen.

3. I agree that not all of them are completely crap, but none of them can be compared with the original. As Bryan, I personally like The lion King sequels and return of Jafar. King of thieves is completely awful as Buzz Lightyear is. Is outrageous how they transform the Toy Story movies into a 2-d TV cartoon.

4.Finally, I agree with Disneygal, I do hope that Disney return to its roots and offer genuine quality again. I'm not against sequels, but I hope that if they do them, They will do good ones.

Posted on Aug 31, 2009, 8:01:17 PM PDT
K. Thompson says:
We need more origination-i.e. brand new stories. They're around so why don't Disney background people go fishing. That is what Walt Disney did. To do sequels that don 't bear resemblance (much) to the original stories is somewhar fraudulent, and deceiving. Many viewers can't discriminate. Changing and altering parts has been going on way too long. Must we always bring things into the 2000's? Many stories weren't written in the 2000's.

Posted on Sep 2, 2009, 12:50:28 AM PDT
L. Thies says:
Of the above mentioned, I was justifiably satisfied with Bambi II, learning about Bambi's youth with his father. I really felt it stood up to today's standards. Mermaid II was a bit less than satisfying, but I didnt feel robbed. I did feel rather stupidly embarrassed watching Peter Pan II with new characters such as the daughter.

Posted on Sep 6, 2009, 8:40:04 PM PDT
PlanetHell says:
I don't know; there was a little too many. Little Mermaid 3 was a decent movie but not really very good. I loved Little Mermaid II on the other hand (why didn't they release it in theatres), but am not a fan of Aladdin; The Return Of Jafar (loved King Of Thieves though, and the TV Series).
If they could all be up to a better quality (Brother Bear 2 comes to mind), I wish they would make more. Unfortunately some are just not and two sequels to Cinderella is really just overkill.
Personally I don't understand why most of them aren't released in theatres. Wouldn't it just be more money for disney?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 8, 2009, 9:12:49 PM PDT
M. Bell says:
Actually, there are 13 Land Before Time movies plus the tv series. And that is not a Disney property. I agree though that the Disney sequels are often pretty weak with few exceptions.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 8, 2009, 9:16:03 PM PDT
M. Bell says:
My kids LOVE LBT and all the sequels and tv show. We have all the dvds. And some of the sequels do surpass the original, both in production value and many catchy musical tunes. Friends for Dinner is great (you can find it on youtube).

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 8, 2009, 9:18:58 PM PDT
M. Bell says:
Something bothers me about Disney scooping up rights to good anime.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2009, 6:09:57 PM PDT
Kit says:
M. Bell,

You're right, The Land Before Time is not a Disney property.
(I thought maybe someone just mentioned that *as an example of numerous sequels*...not necessarily Disney.)

I think most of the Land Before Time sequels (I didn't know the exact number, only that there are at least 10! most of them have been shown on Cartoon Network!) and the cute but short-lived TV series...are a lot of fun, I just think of all of them as very much SEPARATE from the original Land Before Time movie, which to me is a classic in its own right and very different in style from the other Land Before Time offerings. (The original film is also the only Land Before Time that has the complete original cast, as Judith Barsi [voice of Ducky] was tragically murdered by her father before the first film was released.)

You make some good points. Thanks for joining the discussion! ^_^

Kit =^__^=

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2009, 6:15:31 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 19, 2009, 6:16:10 PM PDT
Kit says:
"Something bothers me about Disney scooping up the rights to good anime."

Yeah, I know, me too.

(Luckily there is/was at least one ad which said "Hiyao Miyazaki's Ponyo" [whose it REALLY is, of course!!!], not just "Disney's Ponyo" [which it isn't, except for *that specific version*, which deserves a mention but is, of course, not the *original* version].)

(The American one, with Miley Cyrus's little sister and the Jonas Brothers' little brother, I guess does pretty much qualify to be called "Disney's"...people should just bear in mind that it is *really* "Disney's American remake/translation/etc. of Hiyao Miyazaki's Ponyo". ^_^)

=^__^=
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