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Initial post: Jun 3, 2012, 8:43:15 AM PDT
Unit543 says:
I seen nothing but positive reviews. Can anyone confirm it really helps brain power by a large percent. It almost seems to good to be true.
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012, 11:14:30 AM PDT
Swedey says:
You 'seen nothing but positive reviews' but you want more on the Amazon health forums? Why not just accept the ones you already read then? Look, I give my little nephews a marshmallow before going to bed because once I did that and they didn't have any nightmares that night. Obviously marshmallows stop nightmares. Don't they? So marshmallows get positive reviews from me on reducing nightmares.

A good night sleep, reducing stress, decent food, and exercise 'really helps brain power' the most but Americans want the easy fix. So go for it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012, 12:39:43 PM PDT
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Posted on Jun 3, 2012, 6:22:40 PM PDT
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ParrotSlave says:
What you are going to notice most of all is going to be the "anhydrous caffeine" that it contains. That would be my strike one against the product. Strike two would be no listing of the exact amount it contains of the the other mish-mash of ingredients. Strike three would be, if you look at the Amazon product listing, what do they mean by, "The tubes are custom blended for each individual." Custom blended? On what basis? Your age, sex, height, or maybe astrological sign? A word of explanation would be helpful.

I'm wondering, since the FDA forced a company in 2010 to stop marketing piracetam because their product did not contain any ""dietary supplements," if this is not, in effect, a method of circumventing the FDA ban by mixing in the nootropics with substances that fit the FDA definition of "dietary supplement." I haven't checked lately, but I did notice that several supplement companies stopped selling the pure piracetam a couple of years ago because of that ban, but the stuff is not that expensive.

The question I would have, assuming I were to want to take a nootropic, would be how much of the most valuable ingredients it actually contains to justify the price: I see no amounts listed for the piracetam, oxiracetam, centrophenoxine and pramiracetam. In fact, the ingredient listing on the Amazon site shows oxiracetam and centrophenoxine listed twice, which makes it seem even more bizarre.

I didn't realize that companies were selling acetyl-tyrosine until I looked at that label. There ought to be a warning on the product not to take it if you are taking an MAO inhibitor or if you have melanoma.

The product looks to me to be a ludicrously priced mish-mash. If it had the effect it's presumably supposed to have--elevating one's cognitive abilities--you would think that the users would immediately find a cheaper source of the interesting components and do their own mixing.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012, 6:36:50 PM PDT
Unit543 says:
Thank you Parrot, I will hold off on this and do more research. I did however ordered the piracetam capsules just for a test.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012, 9:29:41 PM PDT
ParrotSlave says:
Longecity has a number of forum threads dealing with the cognitive enhancer issue in general, and, regarding piracetam, several thread dealing with the most effective combination of a choline source [such as lecithin or choline bitartrate,] and piracetam. See, for example, Another recently hyped choline source is Alpha GPC.

I am curious about why the RealNZT product omits acetyl carnitine, since that has been hyped for years as having cognitive enhancement properties. BTW, the cheapest phosphatidylserine source I know of is Puritan's Pride, which makes a lot of generic stuff: you have to wait for their regular buy 1 get 2 free sales to get the best price. has always found their products, as plain jane as they are, to be as labelled. I haven't dealt with these people--Pramiracetam 10 Grams (0.35 Oz) Bulk Powder Strongest Racetam 15x Piracetam 10x Oxiracetam 5x Aniracetam--but their mixing the product to your specification sounds nice, as does the fact that you can buy it in reasonably "bulk" form (to the extent that you could consider an ounce or so to be "bulk"). It is possible to buy larger bulk quantities of those nootropics.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 27, 2012, 6:54:05 AM PDT
Yes: When you order the product, we present 11 questions to provide us enough input to help customize the blend. We ask many more on our own website's intake form.

The product came from 4 years of development, starting shortly after my former wife died of an Oxicodone (plus other painkillers and alcohol) overdose. It was a classic case of polypharmacy and medical incompetence.

That event, and a handful of others regarding family, friends and my own struggle with ADHD and adrenal fatigue left a very bad taste in my mouth regarding dopamine and serotonin agonists. A biochemist I had worked with in the 90's and my own MD/ND helped kick-start the process. Over 1,000 beta tests were performed on clients ranging from normal (seeking improved memory consolidation, mood and clarity) to clinically diagnosed with ADHD across the 5 different ranges of measure.

We have an over 86% reorder rate, indicating a positive level of efficaciousness. And we custom-blend every order: as our client's physiology changes, we make the necessary changes to their blend. Or if they are seeking a specific result. Every nootropic (piracetam, aniracetam, pramiracetam, oxiracetam, etc...) provides a different result based on an individual's physiology. And their uptake varies greatly as well (hence the reason we created a drink as the primary delivery mechanism).

As for quantities of the nootropics and other elements: It varies per user. But we always begin at the clinically proven levels of efficacy. Then vary up or down based on client physiology: existing condition, sex, age, weight, current prescriptions, current OTC drugs, nutritional supplements, eating habits, exercise type and frequency, stimulant types and frequency (coffee/tea/pre-workout supplements).

Let me know if that helps clarify things. If you have any direct questions, please feel free to contact me directly as well. We're here for the long-haul.
To your health,
Mark Alan Effinger
CEO - WebNutrients

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 27, 2012, 7:25:44 AM PDT
"I am curious about why the RealNZT product omits acetyl carnitine, since that has been hyped for years as having cognitive enhancement properties."

Great question, ParrotSlave. We tested over 100 different nootropics and cognitive enhancers (as well as a host of stimulants, neuroprotective agents, supplements, vitamins, etc...). We purchased product from every manufacturer we could track down. If we could have found an existing product that provided the results, I would have simply referred people to that product.

ALCAR (Acetylcarnitine) didn't provide any increased experiential benefit on short and long-term tests (we've been testing since 2008 - and continue to do so). It looks good statistically (blood-brain barrier penetration, high bioavailability) and did help reduce muscle fatigue in athletes who used it in the blend. But it was too hit and miss. And it appeared to blunt some of the base nootropic results. So, for the time being, we do not include ALCAR in our blend.

We are going to be adding L-Carnitine L-Tartrate to our blend - much more experiential and it also helps amplify the acetylcholine production provided by the PS, PC and choline bitartrate currently in the blend.
Let me know if that makes sense.
To your health,
Mark Alan Effinger
CEO - WebNutrients

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 27, 2012, 7:37:19 AM PDT
Unit543: In order to improve the experience with Piracetam, I highly recommend adding a non-GMO choline source such as Now Foods Sunflower Lecithin Non GMO, 1200mg, Soft-gels, 200-Count, multivitamin (or strong source of B vitamins - like NOW Foods B-100 Caps, 100 Capsules and take it away from proteins (an empty stomach and plenty of water or a clean juice works best).

Take 3-4 of the 800mg piracetam caps per dose to hit clinical levels. Always take piracetam with the choline and at least once a day with a B vitamin source. This improves uptake and also ensures you don't get a headache from choline depletion. Piracetam can take weeks to build a high enough level to feel the cognitive benefit. But it's the first place to start if you're dipping your toe in the nootropic waters.
To your health,
Mark Alan Effinger
CEO - WebNutrients
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