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Am I screwed? I have seasonal depression and badly need help.


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Posted on Dec 18, 2010, 11:35:14 AM PST
Riverside says:
I used to suffer from SAD, this year I decided to exercise and increase my intake of vitamin D, it has helped me tremendously. Try Vitamin D3. In the winter months, we do not get enough sunshine, so our bodies cannot make vitamin D. Have your Dr. check your levels. Not having enough Vitamin D can cause almost all of the symptoms that you describe. Read this book, it has a lot of great information, its free too! http://www.naturalnews.com/rr-sunlight.html
Feel better..

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2010, 11:41:45 AM PST
Riverside says:
I take these, http://www.drugstore.com/qxp219212/vitafusion/vitamin_d3_gummy_vitamins_for_adults_gummies_peach_blackberry_and_strawberry.htm?fromsrch=gummy+vitamin+d3, they are affordable and pleasant to take. This brand is chewable, so you know it won't just sit in your stomach like pills do...

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2010, 12:05:57 PM PST
Jay Tee says:
L. Butler - Thanks so much for taking the time to give all this great info! I won't type too much, as I am not sure if you will even see this. Not too sure how amazon works. :) Anyhow. I have started taking several vitamin supplements for depression and such, and thought I knew a good amount about them until I read some of what you've typed here! If you happen to have the time, I would love to ask you a few questions. If so, my e mail is- bukatski at gmail dot com

Thanks again for taking the time to write all of this!

-Jay

Posted on Dec 18, 2010, 1:09:14 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 18, 2010, 5:17:43 PM PST
Rocky01 says:
Has anyone noticed Mia hasn't checked in since like, 2009? That sounds like cured -- or otherwise moved on, perhaps ...

During my last minute mad dash to X-Mas shop I noticed this thread. I don't usually comment online, but hope someone profits from this discussion!

Merry Christmas all.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2010, 1:14:11 PM PST
I take Purity Products "Dr. Cannell's Advanced D" It has 5000 IU and boron, vitamin K2, zinc, and magnesium. From what I conclude from the natural approach to depression is to drink plenty of good water (My idea of good water is water with a PH above 8), adequate rest like sleep, eat as healthy as possible, sunshine (Vitamon D) and I have found that a good B vitamin complex is very good for depression. I take Irwin Naturals "Triple-Boost Caffeine-Free Energy." And it does give me energy. They say to take 2 to 4 a day, but I only take one and it works fine.

Posted on Dec 18, 2010, 8:42:11 PM PST
Green Smoothies:
1 handful o' fruit + handfull of greens (Parsley, Kale, spinach...whatever you like) + water. Blend real good. Drink. Ton's o' vitamins and minerals strait to your system. Then with the energy blast you'll soon feel, do some brisk exersize... heavy hands walking outdoors can't be beat.

Best of luck.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2010, 9:37:39 PM PST
Alpha Chi says:
Is your prime focus for career training is potential salaries? Most would do better focusing on a career they truly enjoy, and chances are in such cases, that this enjoyment leads to excelling in this career and their salaries will reflect this. Hopefully, these latter characteristics will belong to the individual you'll predictably be facing in the future when you'll need to address why you're so miserable, so empty, and so unfulfilled despite your well-paid career and plush lifestyle it bought that you sacrificed so much to obtain and worry so much about losing asking yourself "Is that all there is?" ;o)

Perhaps you'll discover as so many disappointingly do, that life is neither a goal nor an objective; life is but a journey, its pathways which define us: our paycheck does not.
Best wishes-
AX~

In other words,

Posted on Dec 18, 2010, 10:42:02 PM PST
Kcorn says:
While I don't generally push medications for depression, I do have an acquaintance who suffered from depression for years and tried exercise, nutritional supplements and light therapy. However, this person did not have seasonal affective disorder (SAD). It was only medication that got things heading in the right direction, along with the assistance of an excellent therapist. In that case, there was an emphasis on cognitive therapy but there are many types of therapy. Anyway, it was a success because the TEMPORARY (and yes, I stress "temporary") use of medication allowed the therapy to be more affective and helped lift the depression even before therapy began. I strongly feel that without the medication (in that particular instance), the therapy would not have been as beneficial. I am noting only what the person told me - and I quote: "Until I took meds, it was like I couldn't hear what any therapist said or perceived it only through my own distortions."

I have never suffered severe depression myself but have had periods of blue spells. Excellent nutrition, regular exercise and time spent with good friends has always helped me get back on course. At the same time, I recognize that there are plenty who have a strong history of depression in their families and feel that treatment for depression is no different from seeking help for those who have a history of heart disease, diabetes, etc. Read about the history of depression in Kurt Vonnegut Jr.'s family, an author who was sidelined for as long as a year during severe periods of depression. His son has recently written a book about his own experiences with both depression and bi-polar illness (a combination of spells of mania and depression).

Posted on Dec 19, 2010, 12:12:17 AM PST
spookiewon says:
There is a great deal of interest in Vitamin D3 these days, because it seems that LOTS of people are mildly deficient by current standards, and they're just beginning to discover that the current standards are too low. Mine was so low it was below the detection limits for the machine. It is also now believed that as much as 20000IU to 50000IU is a safe dosage, especially if you're deficient. Your doctor should check your levels and prescribe a prescription high dose capsule if you're deficient. S/he should also check your DHEA and other adrenal hormones. Adrenal fatigue and adrenal exhaustion also cause the symptoms you describe. Both of these aren't commonly tested for but are increasingly common in our stressful world.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2010, 5:49:20 AM PST
Spooky-Didn't you mean 2,000 to 5,000 IU?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2010, 6:07:47 AM PST
Trent Doyle says:
My wife has this, though not to the same degree you do. I've seen this on tv. Their cure was a large fluorescent light. You're not alone in this. Do some research.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2010, 8:45:44 AM PST
There are two things I d advise : 1) i think you should research the best psychiatrist you can find and get a consultation with him- You may have some imbalances in your neurotransmitters dopamine/serotonine- any treatment may be hit & miss but has to be diagnosed by a psychiatrist- There is no stigma to see a psychiatrist, they are MDs specialized in brain biochemistry 2) i think you should somehow force yourself to exercise low impact/pace first, but it will get your energy level up and affect your mood positively. Anything is better than nothing: Yoga/treadmill/swimming, etc.

Posted on Dec 19, 2010, 12:02:06 PM PST
Di Cordova says:
Mia-I grew up in Oregon and had the same problem. Here's what worked for me: Move to a climate with plenty of sunshine all year round. I first noticed the difference when I was forced to transfer to Reno, NV to keep a job. Didn't like the town but I never had depression again ever! I now am retired to Honolulu....Physical exercise, plenty of time outdoors, stay off those horrid drugs. If you really don't want to move then schedule a long vacation for Dec. or Jan. and go to Arizona or Hawaii or Nevada just anyplace sunny and stay for 2-3 weeks. Stay outdoors the whole time! Good luck.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2010, 12:10:51 PM PST
Haven't read the other replies, sorry if this is a duplicate suggestion. It's a Vitamin D deficiency! I have the same history as yours. Never tried a light box. But mom thought it was mono, way back when, etc. Tried many diff anti deps with varying success. Have your Dr. test your blood for a Vitamin D level. I took a 50,000 IU Vit D supplement gel cap weekly for a month and feel great. Then they will retest you. Or just take the Vit D3 over the counter supplements, total 2,000 IU a day. You will start to feel better soon. Good luck~! PS Get out in the sun as much as possible without any sunscreen for at least 20 mins of exposure a day = take winter walks, exposing your skin as much as possible. Face at least. It will help!!

Posted on Dec 19, 2010, 12:56:06 PM PST
3Dwave says:
Mia, I don't know which medications you have tried, but I know that very low doses of Xanax have been helpul to many suffering from SAD. The usual dose for SAD is .25mg once or twice a day. Beware, this can be addicting, but taking a low dose for a couple of months will be easy to taper off of. In addition, make sure you use light thereay, eat right, excercise and have your doc do a vitamin D blood test. My test was surprisingly low so my doctor but me on 50,000 IU once a week for three months (in addition, my daily multivitamin has 1,000 IU). FYI, I get a very mild case of SAD at the end of every autumn. I think the vitamin D has helped more than anything else. Hope you are doing better.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2010, 3:31:31 PM PST
Sarah BW says:
I agree Lisa! I'm going to buy at the suggestion of this thread Vit D3 - hadn't heard of it before...thanks

Sarah
goodnighties(dot)com (another thing you will like!) :)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2010, 4:22:40 PM PST
dannyboy says:
Try this. first start with 10,000 units of vitamin D per day plus a B complex vitamin. Then in addition, start niacin therapy. You could start with the 500mg no-flush once per day, but ease over into the regular 500mg, and then add 500 mg per month until you're up to about 3 grams today. Also, cut back on carbohydrates and sugars, increase protein, and don't be afraid of animal fatty foods. If you really try this you will be amazed.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2010, 5:07:43 PM PST
Sounds like you need what I gave my sister-in-law that saved her life and saved her marriage! She was suicidal and was on the verge of kicking her husband out thinking he was the reason for all her problems. What I gave her was about an ounce of Zavita, (available from http://www.firstfitness.com/behealthyagain?zavita ) and then she wanted more! She got a bottle the next day, and then wanted to get it at a discount. Her libido went through the roof, no more depression, and she works in the basement of a major hospital on the east coast so she never sees daylight until she leaves work. The only problem for her husband was he didn't drink any which sucked for her!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2010, 5:08:17 PM PST
L Camp:
Thank you for posting a link for your vits. I will check it out. Be well and be good to you. `~/;->

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2010, 5:48:24 PM PST
Sounds like you need what I gave my sister-in-law that saved her life and saved her marriage! She was suicidal and was on the verge of kicking her husband out thinking he was the reason for all her problems. What I gave her was about an ounce of Zavita, (available from http://www.firstfitness.com/behealthyagain?zavita ) and then she wanted more! She got a bottle the next day, and then wanted to get it at a discount. Her libido went through the roof, no more depression, and she works in the basement of a major hospital on the east coast so she never sees daylight until she leaves work. The only problem for her husband was he didn't drink any which sucked for her!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2010, 5:48:24 PM PST
Sounds like you need what I gave my sister-in-law that saved her life and saved her marriage! She was suicidal and was on the verge of kicking her husband out thinking he was the reason for all her problems. What I gave her was about an ounce of Zavita, (available from http://www.firstfitness.com/behealthyagain?zavita ) and then she wanted more! She got a bottle the next day, and then wanted to get it at a discount. Her libido went through the roof, no more depression, and she works in the basement of a major hospital on the east coast so she never sees daylight until she leaves work. The only problem for her husband was he didn't drink any which sucked for her!

Posted on Dec 19, 2010, 6:05:55 PM PST
Primrose says:
You might try supplementing with vitamin D, taking your levels to between 60 to 70ng/ml. I've seen this cardiologist observe his patients finding relief after taking the sunshine vitamin.

On a personal experience, I agree - I've noticed winters are easier to deal with after taking D3. I also use a D3 light a few times a week.

http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/vitamin-d-deficiency-vs-optimum-level.html

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2010, 6:28:14 PM PST
C. Middagh says:
Lack of vitamin d? Try it, it can't hurt. Good luck.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2010, 7:52:41 PM PST
Mary Olsen says:
I have SAD too and the loss of productivity during the winter months was a disaster. Add to that I live in Western Washington where we see the sun for only about 2 months. Light therapy helped but didn't eliminate the problems.

I take a lot of Vitamin D. It is supposedly toxic at high doses so doctors won't ever give you this recommendation. However, the level of Vitamin D that has been toxic in the past occurred in extreme cases among Eskimos. As a result the RDA is set too low.

You may want to have your Vitamin D level tested at a lab. Mine, at the end of a summer when I was outside gardening every day, was at the very low end of normal, even with the high levels of Vitamin D that I take. Add exercise to your life as well.

The most significant change to my SAD is regular winter vacations to sunny spots. Walk on the beach in Maui for a week in a bikini and you will feel wonderful again!! Try to take one weekend a month in a sunny warm place where you can get lots of sun on your body.

The best solution is to move somewhere that has sun. I bought a ranch in south east Texas, a beautiful area with big trees, lots of lakes and sun, and I am moving next year.

Good luck to you!

Posted on Dec 20, 2010, 9:31:52 AM PST
Or you could just vacation in Australia for 3 months out of the year, go to the beach a lot, but do it with lots of sun block, otherwise you'll end up with skin cancer! I know it's ironic to go to some place warm, and sunny, and then put on sun block. When it comes to avoiding the depression, a couple of ounces a day of Zavita works wonders! Plus, taking First Essentials for Women, or Men, helps a lot too. Both of those can be found on the web site of http://www.firstfitness.com/mattbortner and no, I don't make a dime from any of what is bought from there either.
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