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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 11:16:25 AM PDT
Bubba says:
Kennedy was extremely photogenic, especially on television and in motion pictures. That he was photogenic was of immense help to him in the televised Nixon-Kennedy debate.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 11:24:29 AM PDT
Very thoughtful choices, Ms. W. The hype surrounding Reagan has always puzzled me. I've read serious proposals to put Reagan's face on Mt. Rushmore, on the quarter, on the dollar bill, on the five dollar bill, etc.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 11:26:29 AM PDT
Of course. Rightly or wrongly, people are dazzled by attractive people. In Kennedy's case, he was aided by Nixon's sweating.

Posted on Jun 11, 2012 12:02:24 PM PDT
Dichterliebe says:
"The private sector is doing fine." -- Barack Obama (June 8, 2012)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 12:43:43 PM PDT
Jeff Marzano says:
Anglophile 42071 says:

[Powerful people in Arkansas KNEW about Bill Clinton's lack of morals before he ever ran for president.]

I recall that one lady chose to go to prison rather than testify in court about what she knew about the Whitewater situation. She was that scared.

Jeff Marzano

Posted on Jun 11, 2012 12:45:09 PM PDT
William says:
Worst Presidents
Reagan (High interest rates, iran contra scandal)
Bush sr.(Desert storm, bush tax cuts)
George W. (Two wars, insane spending, and his arrogance)

Favorite Presidents
Lincoln (Having the decency to speak out against the status quo)
Dwight D. Eisenhower(without him we would not have highways and the ability to move our military on said highways, higher income tax rates for the rich, and social security expansion)
Clinton (Family medical leave act 1993, leading the U.S. into a budget surplus while in office)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 12:50:31 PM PDT
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Jeff Marzano says:
Richard A. Lord, aka Richard Lord says:

[Well ... no, but these people did not think that particular aspect of the character issue should have played any part in the public debate about who was most qualified to be president.]

Clinton was accused of more than just cheating on his wife.

That first lady, not Monica, said he cornered her in a room and pulled his pants down and wouldn't let her out. The Secret Service was outside the door preventing her from leaving also.

I don't know why Bill had such a wandering eye when he had the voluptuous Hillary at home.

Jeff Marzano

Posted on Jun 11, 2012 2:39:29 PM PDT
D. Axelson says:
How does William Henry Harrison pass unmentioned in this discussion? If you kill yourself by talking too long at your inauguration, that makes you a pretty bad president, does it not? Or is it the general view that a bad president does things that harm the country?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2012 10:08:01 PM PDT
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Posted on Jun 12, 2012 10:55:33 AM PDT
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ArmyMan says:
Has Warren Harding been mentioned anywhere here as one of the worst presidents? What about him and the corruption in his administration?

He is definitely considered one of the worst, or even the worst, by historians.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 11:23:58 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 12, 2012 11:26:49 AM PDT
Bubba:
The whole Kennedy family was photogenic, wasn't it? And we got to see so much of their, supposedly, intimate lives. Have we gotten past that as a nation, I wonder? Are we over the novelty? Could someone like Christie get elected today without losing weight first? I live in Philadelphia and Christie's weight is a hot topic around here.

I know my jabbering about looks is somewhat OT but I already voted for Polk as one of the best because he accomplished all he set out to do in 4 years and then stepped down. I wish more could do that.

Posted on Jun 12, 2012 11:34:27 AM PDT
Interesting topic. I think you have to look at this as pre-Civil War and post-Civil War as we were a much different country before the war. I think the best Presidents have always been men of their time such as Lincoln, FDR, and even Reagan. The worst is so hard to define. Hoover was horrific, as was Bush 2. However, the damange Hoover did the the USA was fixed by Roosevelt and the second world war. The damange that Bush 2 did is still being and will be delt with for a long time as there won't be a monumenal world event that will move the US back to full employment, plus the idiotic need to lower taxes in wartime and borrow that money from China only ensures that Americans are no longer the worlds banker.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 12:13:06 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 12, 2012 1:48:07 PM PDT
ArmyMan says:
Todd:

"Hoover was horrific, as was Bush 2. However, the damange (sic) Hoover did the (sic) the USA was fixed by Roosevelt and the second world war."

Hoover is generally considered by historians as an average president. He was really unfairly blamed for the Great Depression. Again, why is no one bringing up Harding, who was truly bad, with the Teapot Dome scandal, etc.?

And although I strongly disliked George W. Bush, it is really too early to judge his time in office. We might be surprised at how historians look at him 50 years from now. I am aware that Truman was very unpopular when he left office in 1953. But much later, history was rewritten about him and he is now seen as an above average president who stood up to the Soviets after World War II.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 2:36:02 PM PDT
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Bubba says:
Although a Kennedy by marriage, Jacqueline Kennedy was beautiful on TV and her clothing style was widely emulated by other women. She could have worn a potato sack, combat boots, and a sailor's cap on TV; and the look would have been in store windows in a few days.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 3:10:14 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 5:13:23 PM PDT
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Todd Daniel:

A good post, and I jut gave it the Yes vote it deserves.

You make a good point about looking at the office of president pre-Civil War and post. I always think about the key linguisttc point that Shelby Foote mentioned in one of the last parts of Ken Burns' Civil War series: Before the Civil War, people throughout the English-speaking world, including America, would say "The United State are ....(whatever)". After the war, the locution became "The United States is ..."

Posted on Jun 13, 2012 2:25:38 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 29, 2012 5:04:50 PM PDT
Aluf B. says:
To all of you:

When I teach Latin America. I point out how General Washington gave his arms back and yes he was a commander in chief as a civilian, not a king like some suggested. he should do.
That is not what happened in Latin_ America with Iturbide in Mexico, and Ramos in Argentina, and "Caudillismo" in general.
Why denigrate George Washington?

It is thanks to George Washington that the American way of having Presidents was set. We have the Virginia Dynasty that grew out of the House of Burgesses, and then came Jackson and that changed the ways toward populism, then came Polk and then came the Mexican American war. If I think of immoral I would think Polk. and that senator who screamed "if you can get Puerto Rico"- in the war with Spain- "get it."
Mexico had to have a revolution to argue One vote and no reelection.
I do admire President Lincoln exactly for speaking his mind and even telling Free Blacks that racism would never disappear of the USA- therefore they should go to someplace else where they would be accepted. He always spoke his mind. Why denigrate him?

Clinton was for all we know a very good President, but his personal life is certainly not something I admire, like I dislike JFK's "Happy Birthday dear President" by Marilyn Monroe. The way she sang it I knew.................. that this was it.

In comparison to any other country the USA is one of the countries that has achieved a continued presidency despite certain unacceptable killings and gone forward. Yes, some President did not cut the bill, but in general I would argue the USA has the best system. Absolutely so, despite all faults.

The American model is the best, given how Latin- America failed because it looked for solution toward Europe instead of finding their own solutions, called otherwise Nativism, like the North Americans in the USA did. and I say Kudos.
The USA is where it is- then look where Latin America is in comparison.

Rachel

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 13, 2012 6:23:37 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2012 8:27:58 PM PDT
B. B. Boyd says:
Ole Dishonest Able is perhaps the worst president the US has ever had. He ignored the constitution. He was a racist. He said on many occasions that the white race was superior to the black race and the two races could never coexist. He said the new western territories that were being opened were to be for whites only. He was in favor of sending freed slaves back to Africa or to the islands in the Caribbean or to South America. He wanted war and started an invasion of the South when there was no reason to do so. He suspended the writ of habeas corpus when only congress has the authority to do so. He closed down at least 300 newspapers in the northern states because they disagreed with his actions. Lincoln had hundreds of people arrested including a congressman from Ohio who made a speech criticizing him and later had the congressman deported. Believing that the state of Maryland would seceed, Lincoln sent federal troops into that state to prevent the Maryland legislature from meeting. Fighting broke out and many civilians were killed and the legislature was never able to meet. The probable secession of Maryland would have left Washington within the bounds of the Confederacy. He sent a fleet of warships to Charleston to resupply the federal troops occupying Fort Sumter obviously hoping that the South Carolina troops would be forced to fire on the fort. His devious plan worked so that he could say the South fired the first shot. All of this happened while a delegation representing the Confederate States of America was in Washington waiting to meet with Lincoln and/or his subordinates to try to work out a peaceful solution to avoid war. Lincoln refused to meet with them. He was very cunning and ruled like a dictator during the entire war. It's shameful how he has been deified. So how does he rate in my book? He's one of this country's worst presidents, just like our current president, who has some on the same traits as Ole Abe, pretty good with words, but not very trustworthy, and certainly GREATLY over-rated.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 8:36:58 AM PDT
Boyd,

Three words, South Carolina and uneducated. So, I will translate: I got jus' this to say to ya, you's a zample a why, the South Carolina edjukayshun system is done broke.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 9:01:46 AM PDT
Rachel,

I agree with you on some and disagree on others,

"Why denigrate George Washington?"

Indeed, he is called the "father of our country" for a reason. Quite simply, he is one of the most important reason we have a country at all. So no, he doesn't fit the OP "worst president".

"If I think of immoral I would think Polk."

Perhaps, but quite simply, a creature of his times.

"Clinton was for all we know a very good President"

He belongs in the great sea of mediocrity. Let's not judge our present political leaders to importantly. Such is always the case.

"The way she sang it I knew.................. that this was it."

She did it with a style I do admire, if my wife could sing that well ... terrific rendition. Not sure Jackie appreciated it though. LOL

"but in general I would argue the USA has the best system. Absolutely so, despite all faults."

It is of course, highly situational. It is the best for us.

"The USA is where it is- then look where Latin America is in comparison."

They all suffer from "Maldicion de Espana". Look around the world and then compare the former English colonies with those of Spain. Although not true in all cases, the English crown territories are in far better shape than their Spanish brothers. But that is more a function of English residue than American. But as a general rule our system has been demonstrated as the best until something replaces it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 10:04:04 AM PDT
Democracy is the WORST form of government, except all others!!!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 10:09:43 AM PDT
Army,

"Has Warren Harding been mentioned anywhere here as one of the worst presidents?"

The OP

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 10:11:17 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 19, 2012 10:12:20 AM PDT
I was going to post that. Rats, you beat me to it. I'll add my on two cents (or pence if you desire) democracy isn't easy.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2012 10:15:40 AM PDT
I am SO sick and tired of yankees casting aspersions upon people from the South!!!! You yankees have just as many, if not MORE ignorant, prejudiced people!!!! When my parents moved up north, people thought they'd never even worn shoes until they moved there, and my brother's ignorant teacher sent my brother to the speech therapist because she said he had a SPEECH IMPEDIMENT!!!!! And, his accent wasn't THAT pronounced, he moved there from Memphis!!!! We in the South are used to yankee accents, after all, lots and lots of yankees move South!!!!!
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