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Ending Slavery Through War

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Initial post: Dec 10, 2010 10:05:38 PM PST
My own perspective is that only defensive war is justifiable, ala Switzerland. But what if a neighboring nation is committing horrendous crimes? For example allowing slavery?

The North outlawed slavery in the South through invasion and conquest.

Japan outlawed slavery in Korea, Taiwan, and Manchuria through invasion and conquest.

China outlawed slavery in Tibet through invasion and conquest.

Great Britain outlawed slavery in many parts of its empire through invasion and conquest.

Ignoring the fact that ending slavery was not the initial goal of any of these invasions, can ending slavery justify war?

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Posted on Dec 10, 2010 10:49:52 PM PST
dss says:
Not if it wasn't the initial goal.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 10, 2010 11:24:27 PM PST
John M. Lane says:
Slavery is legal in parts of Islam and the Prophet himself inherited a caravan business from his first wife's family which transported slaves taken in Africa. Should Islam be added to your list of entities "committing horrendous crimes?"

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Posted on Dec 11, 2010 4:32:46 PM PST
JOHN LANE: Should Islam be added to your list of entities "committing horrendous crimes?"

MARK L: Of course. In fact, come to think of it, I can't really come up with a significant part of the world which did not commit horrendous crimes. Which is kind of the point, here. If countries should have the right to invade other countries for horrendous crimes, we would have to be engaged in never-ending warfare with most of the world. Come to think of it, that's kind of the situation we've gotten ourselves into, isn't it?

Actually, though, I'm not sure if Islamic entities would fit the original list. I listed major examples of where one country invaded and conquered another and then ended slavery in the conquered country. Can't think of any examples off hand where that happened in Islamic countries.

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Posted on Dec 13, 2010 4:15:12 PM PST
War is not appropriate to combat slavery. Slavery dies hard and re-appears in different forms through time. That's because it's more than a single institution. Societies develop from the equality of huntergatherers to organized social stratification, inequality. Human civilization always results in wealth and power differentials. Disparities in political, legal, financial and military power allow the strong to dominate or enslave the weak through various means and for different reasons.
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