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Initial post: May 2, 2012 3:45:37 PM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
Only 9998 posts to go!!

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 3:46:47 PM PDT
jeffesq613 says:
You're quick, UP!

Posted on May 2, 2012 3:47:11 PM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
Hee-Hee-Hee!!

;^)

Posted on May 2, 2012 3:48:47 PM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
Howzabout we think of this as the Rosh HaShanah of threads?
Everybody starts out all nice and clean and devoid of the crud that mucked us up on the last thread?

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 3:49:44 PM PDT
jeffesq613 says:
I'm not sure. I think I'm starting to dislike you now, UP. :)

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 3:51:27 PM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
Why, you, you...
DISLIKER, you!!!

I'm-a gonna hide behind Lois 'cause she's got a gun.
(I just hope the gun is loaded and not her!!)

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 3:52:02 PM PDT
jeffesq613 says:
:)

Posted on May 2, 2012 3:54:45 PM PDT
jeffesq613 says:
I'm going to start by apologizing to Jezzie. I know she was upset with something I wrote about her in the original thread. I was criticizing her for past conduct in another Forum, and she correctly pointed out that she has not been doing that recently. So, Jezzie, please accept my apology.

Posted on May 2, 2012 4:10:55 PM PDT
Mrs. B. says:
Emma,
Did you read Worldmask by Rabbi Akiva Tatz? If so, how did you like it?
--Rivkah

Posted on May 2, 2012 4:14:00 PM PDT
Linda Sang says:
I knew it. Not a minute wasted, huh? It looks like this thread was started before the other one even finished. I took too long writing my last note and was unable to get it posted before the thread maxed out. However, I think I'm going to take a break for today because some of the last posts to me or about me were either insulting or condescending, and I'm very angry about that. I don't think anyone wants to read what I write in that mood.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 4:17:00 PM PDT
Linda Sang says:
UP: Howzabout we think of this as the Rosh HaShanah of threads?
Everybody starts out all nice and clean and devoid of the crud that mucked us up on the last thread?

LINDA: No. I have a few scores to settle...just not right now.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 4:17:41 PM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
We're all trying Linda.

All progress is good progress!

Have a wonder-filled evening!!

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 4:19:10 PM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
Let's attempt to not bear grudges.

I think if we tell each other what we each find offensive then eventually that offensive behavior will end.
Remember Hillel!!

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 4:19:37 PM PDT
Linda Sang says:
JEFF: I'm going to start by apologizing to Jezzie. I know she was upset with something I wrote about her in the original thread. I was criticizing her for past conduct in another Forum, and she correctly pointed out that she has not been doing that recently. So, Jezzie, please accept my apology.

LINDA: WOW!!! Now that's really nice...definitely a step in the right direction. Maybe there's a glimmer of hope for this forum after all.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 4:22:33 PM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
HAPPY Feet!!!

Posted on May 2, 2012 4:25:55 PM PDT
Mrs. B. says:
Jennifer,
Interesting you have that siddur from Rabbi Sacks. I have the compact edition of this one The Koren Sacks Siddur: A Hebrew/English Prayerbook, Leader's Size (Hebrew Edition). I really like the Hebrew font in it, it's very clean and easy to read. Is your Siddur Tefillot Kol Hashanah the edition before the one I have?
--Rivkah

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 4:31:40 PM PDT
Emma says:
No, I didn't read that one. I did read his Anatomy of a Search: Personal Drama in the Teshuva Revolution (The ArtScroll series) and Letters to a Buddhist Jew and I really enjoyed them.

One of the latest books I've read and enjoyed is God Winked; Tales & Lessons From My Spiritual Adventures I highly recommend it, I think she is great and I loved the book! Her earlier book Holy Woman: The Road to Greatness of Rebbetzin Chaya Sara Kramer was amazing as well.

Posted on May 2, 2012 4:42:07 PM PDT
Emma says:
I was writing this post on the other thread, but halfway through we had dinner time and when I came back the thread was full. I saw that Jezzie mentioned that states are legislating the Pharmacy issue, and that was the topic I was posting about :) There was an article at the Washington Post on this issue, I'll pull out some quotes, and the full article is here http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5490-2005Mar27_2.html

"Wisconsin is one of at least 11 states considering "conscience clause" laws that would protect pharmacists such as Noesen [a Pharmacist who was sued for not filling or transferring a prescription]. Four states already have laws that specifically allow pharmacists to refuse to fill prescriptions that violate their beliefs. At the same time, at least four states are considering laws that would explicitly require pharmacists to fill all prescriptions.

The American Pharmacists Association recently reaffirmed its policy that pharmacists can refuse to fill prescriptions as long as they make sure customers can get their medications some other way.

"We don't have a profession of robots. We have a profession of humans. We have to acknowledge that individual pharmacists have individual beliefs," said Susan C. Winckler, the association's vice president for policy and communications. "What we suggest is that they identify those situations ahead of time and have an alternative system set up so the patient has access to their therapy."

The alternative system can include making sure another pharmacist is on duty who can take over or making sure there is another pharmacy nearby willing to fill the prescription, Winckler said. "The key is that it should be seamless and avoids a conflict between the pharmacist's right to step away and the patient's right to obtain their medication," she said.

Large pharmacy chains, including Walgreens, Wal-Mart and CVS, have instituted similar policies that try to balance pharmacists' and customers' rights.

"We obviously do have pharmacists with individual moral and ethical beliefs. When it does happen, the pharmacist is asked to notify the manager that they have decided not to fill the prescription, and the manager has the obligation to make sure the customer has access to the prescription by another means," said Tiffany Bruce, a spokeswoman for Walgreens. "We have to respect the pharmacist, but we have to also respect the right of the person to receive the prescription."

Women's advocates say such policies are impractical, especially late at night in emergency situations involving the morning-after pill, which must be taken within 72 hours. Even in non-urgent cases, poor women have a hard time getting enough time off work or money to go from one pharmacy to another. Young women, who are often frightened and unsure of themselves, may simply give up when confronted by a judgmental pharmacist."

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 4:51:30 PM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
Emma:
Women's advocates say such policies are impractical, especially late at night in emergency situations involving the morning-after pill, which must be taken within 72 hours. Even in non-urgent cases, poor women have a hard time getting enough time off work or money to go from one pharmacy to another. Young women, who are often frightened and unsure of themselves, may simply give up when confronted by a judgmental pharmacist."

UP:
I had not thought of this when I suggested that women could obtain their prescriptions via mail-order.
Thank you for lifting the clouds!!

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 5:01:39 PM PDT
jeffesq613 says:
I think every Target and every Walmart has a pharmacy. I don't see those companies not filling these prescriptions. Same goes for CVS and Walgreens and Rite-Aid. None of them want the bad publicity. I don't think this is the problem that "women's advocates" would have you believe.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 5:07:23 PM PDT
Emma says:
UP - It may not be impossible, but it would be difficult to get an immediate appointment with an OBGYN and then get overnight delivery. Also what if it was something you needed right away? Some medicines should be taken as soon as possible. Maybe a solution is to have pharmacies have a self-checkout model, where a machine dispenses it?

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 5:35:08 PM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
I wonder what the various state laws are regarding physicians dispensing meds in their offices.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 5:58:44 PM PDT
Emma says:
Physicians can give medication samples left to them by pharmaceutical sales reps, but otherwise they are not in the business of ordering and dispensing meds the way that Pharmacists are. I've read of some that have "med boxes" in their office, but they are not stocked with many medications. It is just not in the doctor's financial interests to act as a doctor and a pharmacist, and deal with the hassle of insurance companies for both, and do the paperwork for both, as well as dealing with the business sides. And that's not getting into the hassle of carrying narcotics in your office, which attracts thieves and addicts and gets the DEA all up in your business.

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 6:01:51 PM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
Yeah... true enough

;>(

In reply to an earlier post on May 2, 2012 6:09:18 PM PDT
Emma says:
I was really answering your question as a general knowledge question, not even thinking about the pill or EC - for that it might be brilliant. If it turns out that pharmacists in many areas stop dispensing them but the doctors are still willing to prescribe them, it would make financial sense for them (the doctors) to carry just those limited items. UP, I think you may have come upon an amazing solution! Kol HaKavod!
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