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Initial post: Nov 5, 2011, 1:11:45 PM PDT
lenorge says:
I got a e:mail from Amazon with news about Fire accesories. One of the items is a charger a/c adapter for $25.00. There is no explanation for it's use. I though the Fire,like the other Kindles came with the correct cords.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 5, 2011, 2:07:16 PM PDT
Artist says:
From the product page:

Included in the Box

Kindle Fire device, U.S. power adapter (supports 100-240V), and Quick Start Guide.

Posted on Nov 5, 2011, 2:21:23 PM PDT
lenorge says:
Blaiz. So what am I not understanding.

Posted on Nov 5, 2011, 2:24:45 PM PDT
Am I crazy? I have never received an email from Amazon regarding their products or the price of them. Are you sure your email wasn't a phishing expedition?

Posted on Nov 5, 2011, 2:26:31 PM PDT
C. Claiborn says:
G. Dodge: people like to have extras. Helps when traveling, maybe when headed into the office, etc.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 5, 2011, 2:43:58 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Nov 5, 2011, 2:44:25 PM PDT
Q says:
G Dodge,
Blaiz is just pointing out that on the Kindle Fire description section, it reads what's in the box. It then states the answer to your question: an AC wall adapter is included in the box .... you don't need to buy an extra one, unless you need two of them.

Posted on Nov 13, 2011, 10:04:07 AM PST
lenorge says:
Okay...I surrender. I didn't think about needing an extra.

Posted on Nov 13, 2011, 5:39:30 PM PST
Lectrice says:
Fortunately, my Kindle and my BlackBerry can use the same charger, but I do keep an extra charger at work for both of them. A second charger is not an outrageous idea, when you think about it. I also spend a lot of time in the UK, and have bought UK cords for some of my most-used electronic devices.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2011, 5:41:58 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 13, 2011, 5:42:54 PM PST
Artist says:
The charger for the Fire is completely different from the charger for other Kindles. Take a look at it:

Kindle Fire Charger / AC Adapter

I'm guessing the Fire needs more power to charge withinin 4 hours than the other Kindles do.

Posted on Nov 13, 2011, 5:43:25 PM PST
Lectrice says:
Looks like the chargers we use now.

Posted on Nov 13, 2011, 5:50:02 PM PST
M. E. Trauth says:
I checked the specs for the Fire charge against the specs on my K2i charger and they are the same. I was planning on using my K2i charge and have actually been thinking of ordering another one because it will so easily fit in a small case with the Fire. I use my Amazon charger for everything I have that charges with a USB cable - just switch out the cables if necessary.

Posted on Nov 13, 2011, 5:51:54 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 13, 2011, 5:53:29 PM PST
Sires says:
OUTPUT (DC): 4.9V, 0.85A

I think this might be considered nonstandard. I have two cardboard boxes full of charger cords (and other accessories) that I recently labeled so I knew what the output was and I swear not one was 4.9 v .85A. (I just had to order a special charger for a keyboard that was 8 v., .5A)

ETA: I didn't look at my Kindle chargers because I keep them in a separate place for cords I use all the time.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2011, 5:54:55 PM PST
Artist says:
You mean the micro plug looks the same. The transformer at the plug end certainly looks different, and one would think there'd be a good reason for the difference. Anyway, you get the charger in the box, so no worries.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2011, 6:06:40 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 13, 2011, 6:08:39 PM PST
A. says:
The specs are actually not the same. The product page for the Kindle Fire charger is incorrect, and has confused a lot of people. I notified Amazon of this error, and posted about it in another thread that had been discussing the chargers, when I discovered this a couple weeks ago. Sadly they still haven't bothered to correct it.

If you zoom in on the Kindle Fire charger's product image, you can see the actual specs printed on it say 5V, 1.8A. This makes sense because if the Fire's preferred charging were at the same specs as the e-ink chargers, they wouldn't have needed to manufacture separate chargers for the Fire, that are uglier, bulkier, less versatile, and more expensive ($25 vs $10) than the e-ink Kindle charger adapters.

The Kindle e-ink chargers are 4.9V, 0.85A. And by the way, all the other Kindle e-ink devices have come with the charger adapter, but the new K4 Basic and Touch models only come with the USB cable, and you have to buy the charger adapter for it separately for $10 (or use one you have from a cell phone or something) if you want to be able to charge from a power outlet instead of a computer USB port.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2011, 6:19:01 PM PST
Artist says:
Thank you, A., for posting the specs. I thought that was the case, but I didn't know the technical aspects of each charger. I just assumed that since Amazon created a new charger, there was a good reason for it. But that's how my mind works -- apparently other people don't think that way.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2011, 6:25:59 PM PST
M. E. Trauth says:
Wow A. - Thanks! I was going strictly by the specs on the Fire charger page. I'd wondered why they made the Fire adapter so bulky. It never occurred to me to zoom in on the product image. IF I get my Fire by Friday, I plan on taking it on a trip with me, and I wasn't intending to bring the bulky charger. I'm glad this post was here and that I commented and that A. corrected me!

(I use the Amazon charger to charge my ipod, blackberry, and a few other small items - I never checked the specs on any of them - maybe I'd better do that)

Posted on Nov 13, 2011, 6:31:02 PM PST
Nina says:
I didn't realize the Fire used a different charger. It's an ugly thing, isn't it? I wish it was ANY color but black. I've got so many black chargers that it can be hard to find the right charger for a device.

This makes me better appreciate the sleek charger that came with the K2 & K3.

Posted on Nov 13, 2011, 6:48:52 PM PST
D. Hill says:
Should be able to use the iPad plug rated at 2.1A, if you have an iPad also.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2011, 6:53:10 PM PST
A. says:
It should be safe to use other micro-USB chargers with the Fire, it should just charge slower (2-4x slower) on those. The iPad has similar charging.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2011, 7:08:34 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 13, 2011, 7:41:06 PM PST
Q says:
M E Trauth & Sires,
Many, incl me, feel the listed output is an Amazon mistake.

If you enlarge the photo of the Fire AC charger linked to above, you'll see clearly written on the adapter is:
OUTPUT (DC): 5v, 1.8A

... not the 0.85A that the K2+K3 have rated on their wall adapter.

Think about it. Just like the iPod & iPad need more power, so will the Fire.

So as Blaiz said, the chargers are not the same.

UPDATE: Oh, I see A. beat me to it. Well done!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2011, 7:39:32 PM PST
Missy Pease says:
G. Dodge, in Australia the power adapter isn't included in the box, however, you will get the USB cable that you can use to charge your Kindle with connected to your home computer. They may have been sending you a link the the optional power adapter that would allow you to plug in and charge versus using the USB to your computer. It would something similar to this: Amazon Kindle AU (Type I) Power Adapter (Kindle, Kindle Touch, Kindle Keyboard, Kindle DX)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2011, 7:55:06 PM PST
A. says:
Peasorama, several points:

This discussion is about the Kindle Fire, which is only being sold in/to the US currently. (And is being sold there with the aforementioned US power adapter included.)

That's an e-ink Kindle adapter you've linked to (and you're talking about the policy of not including power adapters with e-ink Kindles for international sales). As mentioned, it is compatible with the Kindle Fire but will charge it quite a bit slower.

Amazon will presumably start selling international-style power adapters for the Kindle Fire once the Fire itself is available for purchase in those other countries. Until then, someone who manages to indirectly get a Kindle Fire outside of the US would have to find other adapters/converters to use with it.

Posted on Nov 13, 2011, 8:02:08 PM PST
Tanstaafl says:
Is this an appropriate car charger for the Kindle Fire (used with the proper USB cable)? Thanks.

AmazonBasics 2-Port USB Car Charger with 2.1 Amp Output (Black)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2011, 8:14:49 PM PST
A. says:
Yes, that car charger should work with the Kindle Fire. If you want full-speed charging for the Fire, don't connect anything to the 2nd USB port on the charger at the same time.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 13, 2011, 8:19:06 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 13, 2011, 8:20:11 PM PST
Q says:
That looks like a very possible.

My concern would be the voltage. It states:
"2.1 amp output. Can be used with 12V to 24V DC voltages"

The Fire uses 5v, not"12v-24v". But it does read, "cell phone, tablet, MP3 player, iPhone, iPod, iPad, PDA, GPS etc." Many of those devices would also be low voltage. My Samsung cell phone charger is rated as 5v, so if it will charge in this car charger, then I suppose the Fire could as well.

Worth asking someone on this forum who's more knowledgeable in electricity/electronic here.

The Fire also draws 1.8A, so this car charger's rated 2.1A will be great. It can give as many amps as the Fire might request.

UPDATE: it seems A. has already answered you and I think he knows more about electricity then me.
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