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Kindle Fire, "the Cloud" and WiFi


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Initial post: Sep 30, 2011 12:12:36 PM PDT
I am confused about having my media content stored "in the Cloud". If I am traveling on a plane with my iPad, I can rent a movie from iTunes the night before and then watch it on the plane without WiFi access. If I have a Kindle Fire, will I be able to do the same thing? Or, if the movie I rented is stored "in the Cloud", will I be able to watch it only if I have WiFi? What the heck is this "Cloud" thing all about?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 12:17:11 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 30, 2011 12:19:10 PM PDT
To stream media to the Fire, such as a movies, etc...from Amazon's online video collections, you will need wifi access at all times. Even if you store your own movies on Amazon's Cloud, you will need wifi to access them. You can download your own movies directly to the Fire and watch them without wifi of course, but these will be your own movies, not Amazon movies/video.

Edit to add that The Cloud is an online storage space for you to securely store and access all of your own personal content, from your own personal movies, mp3's, documents, etc...you can access your "Cloud Drive" on Amazon from almost any device that can access the internet.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 12:25:26 PM PDT
Really? Thanks. So downloading a movie or music from the Amazon site to access at a later time when I am not in a wifi zone is not an option? How is that supposed to be an "iPad killer"?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 12:29:30 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 30, 2011 12:30:30 PM PDT
Bryan M. Weiss says: "If I have a Kindle Fire, will I be able to do the same thing? Or, if the movie I rented is stored "in the Cloud", will I be able to watch it only if I have WiFi?"

Amazon's video buy/rental system allows for both downloads and streaming. You will only need WiFi if you choose to stream your videos. Otherwise it's just like iTunes. You can buy/rent the video, download it, then watch it later for watching when you are not online. When you rent a video it will tell you when it will expire.

"What the heck is this 'Cloud' thing all about."

The "Cloud" is just the internet. "Cloud" storage is simply online storage.

Posted on Sep 30, 2011 1:18:15 PM PDT
Surveyah says:
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Posted on Sep 30, 2011 1:26:35 PM PDT
TerryB says:
You can download music and books from the Cloud to pc's and android devices for listening/reading offline. Not sure about iPads, or about videos since I don't have any in the Cloud.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 3:34:51 PM PDT
Linda K says:
You will have the opportunity to download it to your device.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 3:36:40 PM PDT
JimmyTheD says:
I don't think the Fire was ever meant to be a iPad killer.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 3:40:05 PM PDT
Linda K says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 3:44:17 PM PDT
If you purchase the video or rent the video, that may well work the same way as your books and music. If you are simply streaming the videos from Amazon, then you will have to be in wifi range.

Try it. Stream a free video and see if you can save it to your hard drive. That's what would be required on your Fire.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 3:47:28 PM PDT
I agree. Two different types of devices.

Posted on Sep 30, 2011 4:36:08 PM PDT
M. E. Trauth says:
I've been wondering something similar. I understand I can load my iTunes music to the 'Cloud' and listen to them on the Fire. But of course that is only when connected through wifi. Am I crazy in assuming that there will be a media player app that will allow me to store and play some of my music on the device itself? I am hoping this is a really dumb question and that of course they will be!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 4:38:46 PM PDT
Yes, you can store music on the Fire so that you can listen to it without wi-fi connection. And you can multi-task. You can listen to your tunes while reading. Cool, huh?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 4:43:39 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 4:44:30 PM PDT
With enough Quaaludes, anything is possible.

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Posted on Sep 30, 2011 4:53:12 PM PDT
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Posted on Sep 30, 2011 5:17:16 PM PDT
Goldolor says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 5:37:20 PM PDT
Cyndie says:
There is not a tablet available today that will give you free 3G access. Whether the 10 inch tablet that Amazon is said to be coming out with in 2012 will have 3G access that you will need a data plan for is anyone's guess. But Amazon can afford to eat the cost of the 3G for the Kindles because a book is very small to download. But movies and music and constant web browsing on the Fire? No way will it be included free.

Posted on Sep 30, 2011 5:41:40 PM PDT
Bufo Calvin says:
Goldolor, you bought a Kindle 3 that has both kinds of hardware in it: 3G and wi-fi. You paid more for that one for that reason (I'm assuming you bought it new from Amazon...I realize you might have gotten it as a gift).

The $199 Kindle Fire which is now available for pre-order will only have the hardware for a wi-fi connection. It seems pretty likely to me that they'll release a version in the future with the 3G hardware.

You will be able to download movies to the Fire. This is from the product page:

"Over 100,000 movies and TV shows, including thousands of new releases and your favorite TV shows, are available to stream or download, purchase or rent - all just one tap away."

I think what may be confusing for some people is the term "streaming". By definition, you have to be connected to something when you are watching it streaming. If you think of a stream in the woods, it is passing by you. You could drink out of it. However, if you wanted to drink some water later, you would need to put it in a bucket or something and take it home...that's like downloading it.

Prime members have free access to something like 10,000 streaming videos. For those, you would need to be connected via wi-fi. However, they cite having over 100,000 videos altogether...presumably, most of them can be downloaded. You can probably download some for free, and you can probably pay to download ones you can watch streaming for free.

This may also help:

On-device Storage: 8GB internal. That's enough for 80 apps, plus 10 movies or 800 songs or 6,000 books.
Cloud Storage: Free cloud storage for all Amazon content

So, let's say you were taking that plane flight. You could put five movies, two hundred songs, and about 1,500 books on it before you left. :) Those, you could enjoy while you weren't connected to wi-fi.

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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 5:49:40 PM PDT
Cloud storage means its stored somewhere on the web and not physically on your devices or HDD at home. (Thats not the real definition but the easiest way to explain it to someone who doesnt understand) Essentially what this means is, you dont have to have a hard drive at home holding your media or the media actually on your device, as your media will be on Amazons cloud servers. The cloud can only be accessed if you are connected to the web. Now with the whispersync i could see them doing something cool where if you rent it on the device the moment you press play it only stays playable for 24 hrs or whatever the period is. After that it will either be automatically deleted from the device or when the whispersync kicks back in on your next wifi it will update everything.

Hope that makes sense.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 5:53:44 PM PDT
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Posted on Sep 30, 2011 6:19:52 PM PDT
To summarize, without 3G, no bright future for Fire. Usually people have wifi at office or home, the places where they usually have desktop or at least laptop. Then why the heck I will watch movies on the tiny 7 inch device rather than 15-20 inch desktops? Makes no sense.

But yeah, 3G connection will make Kindle Fire a fascinating device. Until that, better let them eat tacos.
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