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Disabled - kindle is usually the only option - pricing is unfair


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Initial post: May 6, 2012 2:05:56 PM PDT
I am disabled. My kindle reader is a godsend, because I cannot manipulate a large book. I am distressed though by the exploitive relative pricing of kindle editions, and refuse to pay more than the hardcover price. This means that, for example, I cannot read the new John Irving novel, In One Person, which is priced at $19.26 for the kindle edition and $16.12 for hardcover. I have been a loyal customer of Amazon over many (pre-disability) years and feel let down over this.
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Posted on May 6, 2012 2:08:35 PM PDT
seedlady says:
you could look for the kindle version at your library, or wait till the paperback comes out, when the price will probably drop.

you might as well contact the publishers, who set the prices, and let them know you are sad. maybe they will help.

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 2:13:08 PM PDT
Dorothy~

Have you checked into ereaderiq.com? You can get an email sent to you each day with the list of books that are free that day.

And definitely check your library. You may be able to get John Irving's novel in ebook for your Kindle. Of course they do have waiting lists. But I'd imagine if you wait awhile the kindle price will probably come down in price.

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 2:13:33 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 6, 2012 2:14:44 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
There are a lot of books out there that are free or low cost. You can also use the library. I hate to say it but books are a luxury item. They are not a necessity. I too am disabled but I find plenty of books to read that I can afford. We don't need to read the latest and the greatest.

One other thing. Amazon does not control the prices of ebooks. That is the publishers at this time. Amazon has no say in it for now.

Posted on May 6, 2012 2:14:05 PM PDT
dfn.ninja says:
Looks like the kindle edition is $14.99 preorder for May 8th. Be disappointed in the publisher. Amazon doesnt set the prices.

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 2:15:20 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
Looks like she is from Canada.

Posted on May 6, 2012 2:15:23 PM PDT
The OP is in Canada - she may not be able to borrow library books using her Kindle.

Posted on May 6, 2012 2:16:11 PM PDT
EveKendall says:
I'm so sorry the prices are out of your reach. You are not alone. :(

I second checking the library for an e-lending program. I don't read bestsellers, but don't ebook prices drop the longer they are for sale?

Paper books will continue to drop in price as more and more people move to ebooks. :( You should see what I can get at my annual local library book sale for USD 1-2; it's mind-boggling.

The other alternative might be an audio ebook? I don't go this route myself but is this a less expensive method of getting the same book perhaps?

Good luck!

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 2:18:26 PM PDT
Audiobooks are usually a great deal more expensive. I checked Audible.com and the book the OP wanted, In One Person, is $29.99. They do have sales, though, but overall I don't think it would save her money.

Posted on May 6, 2012 3:02:17 PM PDT
Arual says:
Dorothy,

I'm rediscovering all the old classics, like "The Count of Monte Cristo." These are free too.

Posted on May 6, 2012 3:11:44 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 3:20:42 PM PDT
 nospin  says:
Drop in the Free Book and Chat thread Dorothy and we'll have your to be read list long in no time.

Posted on May 6, 2012 3:32:54 PM PDT
kajola says:
Another good place to check for bargain kindle books is the "Discounted / Price Dropped Kindle eBooks" thread:
http://www.amazon.com/forum/kindle/ref=cm_cd_t_rvt_np?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1D7SY3BVSESG&cdPage=361&cdThread=Tx1LK8SYLEDT8B5#CustomerDiscussionsNew

Posted on May 6, 2012 3:55:42 PM PDT
Jay says:
Kindle does not set prices, the publishers do. They may be bringing them down soon, since the DOJ started acting against them. There are still millions of free, and nearly free, ebooks available. I have over 1500 of them.

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 3:57:46 PM PDT
reply to Dorothy E. Gifford's post:

you blame amazon cause the publisher put a high price on the book ??

amazon plays games with discounts on paperbooks
spend the +$3 if you want to read it

or just wait
the prices will change

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 5:00:43 PM PDT
Yes I do. Amazon sold me the kindle. They should undertake to negotiate a reasonable price with the publisher. Amazon is the most important book reseller in the business and have quite a lot of influence with publishers, which they should be prepared to wield on behalf of their customers. Remember all we're asking for is a reasonable price and some of us are locked into this delivery mode.

Thank-you to all the polite and/or sympathetic contributers to this thread. I have a better understanding now, and some ideas for coping.

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 5:04:43 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 7, 2012 8:51:39 PM PDT
ScottBooks says:
So--before your Kindle you got your brand new just released hardcovers from where exactly?

My local bookstore has In One Person: A Novel for $22.40 tomorrow (20% off the list price). Amazon will sell me the hardcover for $16.12 + $3.99 S&H ($20.11 for those of you disinclined to do the math).

I chose to get the kindle edition delivered for $14.99.

Posted on May 6, 2012 5:09:48 PM PDT
Amazon is well known for making every possible effort to lower book prices. For many books, Amazon no longer has control over the pricing.

Posted on May 6, 2012 5:11:39 PM PDT
I agree, too, that there are a lot of free/cheap kindle downloads available. I recently read David Copperfield for the first time, having downloaded it free. I'm glad to be able to access this motherlode. But public domain material is very cheap anyway, and certain book launches are capital E Events. A new John Irving or Elmore Leonard or David Sedaris... For me there are a handful of must reads that I don't want to wait for (I'm getting old :)).

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 5:13:18 PM PDT
Artist says:
I'm also disabled, and couldn't read for over 10 years until I got my Kindle.

I just bought a book last week for $3.99, and that's the most I spent on a book in the past year. I read a lot of free and indie books, and also borrow from the library.

Why should prices be lower for you just because you choose to read current bestsellers? We're not entitled to lower prices because we're disabled, and it sounds like that's what you're saying. Just like at the grocery store, I choose chicken and ground beef instead of steak. I don't expect the store to sell steak for less money just because I can't afford it or because I *think* it should cost less.

Change what you read and/or use the library. Stop expecting the world to accommodate your personal desires.

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 5:15:54 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 6, 2012 5:20:26 PM PDT
Generally...Amazon wants publishers to set prices for their Kindle editions at between 2.99-9.99. When you see a book listing and it says 'Price Set by the Publisher,' this refers (usually) to one of the Big Boy Presses who think their Kindle books should cost the same, or nearly the same, as the paperback version.

Of course, this is ridiculous. There is much less overhead on a Kindle book. You create it once and make it available. No print cost, no shipping cost, no warehousing necessary.

From the start, all our 'stuff' has been set to 2.99 for Kindle versions. No DRM, either. Many small presses are like us. Besides, as others have said here, there are a TON of free books at Amazon for the Kindle.

There is also another point here. The reason why some sellers at Amazon (and Amazon, as well) sometimes offer up books for less than the retail is because they can. Nearly all US trade publishers release titles at the standard 55%-off the retail price embedded in the EAN/Bookland barcode. This means the seller has room between the trade rate and the retail price. So...they compete sometimes. Why can't YOU get the books for that? (*smiles*)

Answer: You need access to the Ingram catalog. Bookstores, libraries, booksellers, etc usually have accounts with Ingram, which enables them access to books at the trade rate.

Robert M Blevins

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 5:18:10 PM PDT
CSam says:
+1!

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 5:22:11 PM PDT
Artist says:
"Of course, this is ridiculous. There is much less overhead on a Kindle book. You create it once and make it available. No print cost, no shipping cost, no warehousing necessary."

That's because you view the e-book as an addition or an afterthought to the printed books. The publishers don't look at it that way. Usually, when a person buys an e-book, they don't buy the printed copy as well. How do you think the publisher is going to make back their costs and make a profit if people aren't buying as many printed books as they used to? E-books are not "extra added free bonus money" for publishers. I agree that books have gotten too high, but to claim that they should be lower simply because there are no printing and warehousing costs is taking a very limited view of a complex situation.

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 5:28:21 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 6, 2012 5:48:56 PM PDT
No. I'm saying the world should not take unfair advantage of me because I'm disabled. They are charging LESS for the hardcover than for the kindle edition.

In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2012 5:29:56 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 6, 2012 5:34:07 PM PDT
Backwards thinking, Blaiz. The truth is, the big publishers have controlled the market for decades. And they don't like the current situation at all.

Before the Kindle and digital print publishing came along, the small presses were at a great disadvantage, especially in print. Now they can compete at both levels...especially in eBooks. The playing field has been leveled, and it is assisted by consumers who refuse to pay high prices from the big publishers for eVersions. The eBook market has turned consumer-driven, rather than Big Boy Publisher driven. By your way of thinking, it is okay for consumers to pay higher prices just because the big guys run up the bills in marketing and choose to pay large advances. That is THEIR choice to do that, and if book purchasers refuse to buy into that thinking, then it becomes a problem for the big presses.

They don't see the reality of today's market. They just want to hang on to control. Do I feel sorry for them? Not a bit. In any case, why should we listen to THEM? The book business has been stagnant for a decade, and they are mainly the cause. Now, since the playing field is more level...it is actually growing, and much of it done by smaller publishing entities who have a fair shot.

Now...digital print and eBooks take off...and competition is enabled. It really pisses them off, trust me on this. They should stop whining, trying to charge people more money, and accept that the market has changed.

Robert M Blevins
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