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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2012, 2:29:26 PM PST
dfn.ninja says:
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Posted on Dec 2, 2012, 8:42:15 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2012, 8:50:02 PM PST
you can't post links to your blog here. Its self promotion/spam/advertising, and that's not permitted.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2012, 9:40:40 PM PST
So... the FBI is lying?
http://www.ic3.gov/media/2012/121012.aspx

Or are you just being REALLY pedantic about the difference between "viruses", "malware" and "trojans"?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2012, 9:53:00 PM PST
Pedantically speaking, she is correct ;)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 2, 2012, 10:03:15 PM PST
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Ph.D. or not, I am skeptical of your statement that "NO viruses can invade anything Android." You insinuate that it's not possible. Can you tell me from a technical point of view what makes Android immune to viruses and malware? The techie in me wants to know.

My thoughts on the subject are that the folks that have nothing better to do than write malicious virus and malware code just haven't got around to extensively targeting the Android OS. . . yet. Unfortunately, I'm convinced that day WILL come eventually.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012, 7:04:35 PM PST
Thanks for this info! I didn't realize that viruses couldn't get into my Fire. I was concerned it had been infected as everything began running sluggishly. A shut down-reboot got things running smoothly again.

Posted on Dec 23, 2012, 4:15:29 AM PST
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Posted on Dec 23, 2012, 7:49:35 AM PST
jsh1120 says:
Folks,

I think Ms. Curtin (who has understandably abandoned this discussion) has gotten a bad rap for her comment that Android is largely immune from virus/malware/etc "attacks." She is correct. The "stovepipe" software architecture of Android (much like iOS) largely protects devices running the os from "attacks" that enable a rogue virus from infecting a device without active cooperation from a user. And she is absolutely correct that sluggish performance is extremely unlikely to come from a "virus."

What CAN happen is that a user can install an app on an android device that operates in a manner not intended by the user. The warning cited in a previous post says as much. If you install an app with the necessary permissions it can compromise personal information and location information, for example. But the solution to this problem is not anti-virus software but care in pro-actively installing software you are unfamiliar with.

If you set your KF to enable installation of software from "unknown sources" you may be tricked into installing such software while surfing the web. That doesn't mean you should avoid side loading software but if you do, turn on this setting in the course of side loading the app you want and turn it off again when you're done. Side load from known and trusted sites, etc.

If you think about it, you'll realize that even if the architecture of the Operating System were less virus-protective, it is VERY unlikely that a truly destructive virus would be something to worry about. What you need to worry about are apps that operate silently and with very little impact on the performance of your device. Those apps are designed to steal information from your device and if they significantly impact the performance of your device, you would notice it. From a hacker's point of view that's a bad thing.

In general, virus protection software on Android devices work much like the rhinoceros repellant on my front porch. Since I installed it five years ago, I haven't had a single rhinoceros attack my house. Of course, I never suffered a rhinoceros attack before I installed the device.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 3:28:11 PM PST
jsh1120 is precisely right about how Android works.

And if you're getting a "virus alert" on your KF, it is probably a scam. Fake virus alert popups are a favorite tool of malware authors who are trying to trick you into downloading and installing their software. On the KF and any Android device, if you voluntarily install a program and grant it permission to do something, it will do that thing. This is not "virus" behavior. It's "willing victim" behavior. Don't fall into that trap.

Posted on Dec 23, 2012, 3:29:07 PM PST
Also, note that "antivirus" software companies benefit from the "virus" scare. Draw the obvious conclusions.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 26, 2012, 12:40:02 PM PST
Thanks for understanding why I dropped out of the discussion. Banging one's head against a wall so it wil feel better when one stops is akin to tell the same knock-knock joke over and over.
BTW, my last name is Kurtin. People ask me if I'm related to Jane Curtin. I tell them, "No, she spells her name Jane."
I was arond when the virus garbage began. Then idiots began messing up Microsoft Office. Now just about anything is a target for a virus, a trojan...EXCEPT KINDLE. That's why I moved on; it is nuts to keep saying the same thing over and over again.
And now...CUL

Posted on Jan 14, 2013, 7:21:01 AM PST
Literate1 says:
This week I began having problems with my Kindle fire. It is generation one. When I try to access Google, Aol, or Yahoo I get a meassage that my wi fi connection is inoperable, and there is a security issue. Regardless of whether I chose close or continue, I keep getting the message making the device unuseable. I have turned the Kindle off as some have suggested. It also would not load soem videos I ordered. Despite them showing up on my order list and my email account, when I check my library they are not there. I have had no prior problems with downloads. The ivideos were not marked HD.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 19, 2013, 1:18:27 PM PST
Any suggestions on a Kindle Fire that won't allow me to connect to Internet anymore? My neighbour hooked it up to her laptop via USB cable and downloaded numerous audio files and books she got from various pirate-type sites. After that, nothing would open up--not even the paid-for Amazon material. She then de-registered for some reason, and then my husband reset to factory settings. But it didn't fix the problem and now it is empty with no info and no way to connect to the Internet. The parental controls button is also grayed out. Any thoughts?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 19, 2013, 1:24:04 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
Yea, don't let people add illegal things to your device. The only thing I can suggest is to contact customer support if you have already done a factory reset.

Posted on Jul 6, 2013, 10:41:01 AM PDT
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Posted on Jul 23, 2013, 5:24:20 PM PDT
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Shell says:
Everytime I try to surf the net on my kindle fire I get this page for antivirus and it doesn't go to the websites ..is asking me to click scan for malware..seems like I have a virus..help?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 23, 2013, 9:35:52 PM PDT
Howdy!, to the best of my knowledge there are NO viruses on any Android operating system. Ignore those "warnings." I am a retired computer engineer. Good 'nuf?

Bev Kurtin, Ph.D.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 23, 2013, 11:49:58 PM PDT
Two points:

First, your answer dismisses Shell's problem without giving any solution. The statement that there are no viruses that infect Android systems does nothing to allow Shell to access websites.

Second, as Android becomes more popular, more people are going to be working to find ways of taking advantage of it. Just because you don't know of any viruses is hardly a guarantee that no one will ever create a virus that can attack Android devices.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 23, 2013, 11:51:43 PM PDT
Contact customer support. Maybe it's malware and maybe it isn't, but your best bet is talking to the people who have made it their job to keep Fires working. Good luck!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 24, 2013, 12:11:38 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
don't click it

http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/troublesome-fake-anti-virus-hits-android-119870

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 24, 2013, 1:44:32 AM PDT
Retired, huh? So we have no idea how up to date your knowledge is.

You didn't answer my question back in December about this:

So... the FBI is lying?
http://www.ic3.gov/media/2012/121012.aspx

Or are you just being REALLY pedantic about the difference between "viruses", "malware" and "trojans"? And if so, your statements are at best misleading to those (and there are many) with not enough tech knowledge to understand the difference.

Note one of the safety tips on that link: "Obtain malware protection for your mobile device. Look for applications **that specialize in antivirus or file integrity** that helps protect your device from rogue applications and malware."

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 24, 2013, 7:52:41 AM PDT
Shell says: "Everytime I try to surf the net on my kindle fire I get this page for antivirus and it doesn't go to the websites ..is asking me to click scan for malware..seems like I have a virus..help?"

Do not click on it. Those are trojan pop-ups designed to either infect a computer with a virus/malware or to send you to a website that will do the same. Most are aimed at PCs and MACs, and all Android Malware to date has been embedded in apps, you should never click on those as a general rule on any device they pop up on.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 24, 2013, 7:54:58 AM PDT
Beverly F. Kurtin says: "Howdy!, to the best of my knowledge there are NO viruses on any Android operating system. Ignore those 'warnings.' I am a retired computer engineer. Good 'nuf?"

Howdy!, Over the past 3 years there have been hundreds of trojans and malware found in the Android app store that has affected millions of Android users around the globe. The latest being the BadNews malware that was found in 32 apps from 4 different developers that infected somewhere between 2 - 9 million users. Ignore people who claim that Android can never be infected by any virus (as the ave user does not know the difference between virus, trojan and malware and to them "virus" means all 3) or trojans or malware. I am an active and current software engineer. Good 'nuf?

Posted on Jul 24, 2013, 3:33:24 PM PDT
My bad. I was unaware of that, thanks for updating me, I appreciate the info. Wouldn't it be lovely if those idiots were to either drop dead or, better put their "talents" to better use. When I got into the biz 35 years ago, there were no viruses. I would love to strangle some of 'em.

Thanks again.
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