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Kinde Fire Not Charging, Frozen, Battery Dead? Try this approach...

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 21, 2012, 6:18:14 AM PDT
jsh1120 says:
E. MacNeill,

Yes, you could have contributed to the problem by using the wrong charger. But I doubt that all is lost. Assuming that you don't have the infamous "loose" port or "bad connector" hardware problem, and you cannot get the KF to boot either by going through the entire "reboot/hard reset"procedure or simply by pushing the power button briefly but firmly with the unit UNCONNECTED to the charge cable, I'd suggest that simply plug in the KF and LEAVE IT ALONE for four hours or so. (Don't check to see if it's responsive. Leave it alone.)

At the end of that time, unplug it and try to turn it one by briefly and firmly pressing the power button. Don't push it repeatedly. Be patient and give it a minute or so to boot. After that try it again once or twice. If it still fails, get in touch with Kindle CS.

Your KF may have become "confused" about its current state. If so, it may be able to "unconfuse" itself if given the chance, but repeated pressing the power button or disconnecting and reconnecting the charge cable may only confuse it further.

Give all that a try and let us know what happens.

Posted on Jun 21, 2012, 6:31:39 AM PDT
E. MacNeill says:
Thank you so much! I will try it. I currently have it plugged in and waiting to charge up fully. I'll check in later on and let you know! Do you know if this would mess with my warranty since I used the wrong charger?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 21, 2012, 6:43:14 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 21, 2012, 6:44:30 AM PDT
jsh1120 says:
No. It won't affect your warranty at all. Amazon is well aware of the problems with the charge port and they're not making any waves, whatsoever, about replacing KF's that have such a problem. I suspect that you could literally fry the entire motherboard from a lightning strike and Amazon would swallow hard, smile, and send you a new one. :)

On the other hand, if you toss the KF off the roof and the screen breaks, Amazon will (correctly) point out that accidental damage is not covered by the standard warranty.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 21, 2012, 6:45:05 AM PDT
Kirk Bailey says:
Um, try not mentioning that fact, and see how it plays out.
Yiou can always say opps later and plead for mercy.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 21, 2012, 6:48:25 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 21, 2012, 6:49:09 AM PDT
Q says:
I just want you to know that I like and appreciate the quality answers and level tone of your responses.

If you have the time (perhaps you've already done this), could you come over to the "Kindle Help Forum" and help us out? There are a *lot* of one-off posts there that aren't discussions as much as individuals seeking help. And I do believe you are quite capable to answer several of them. There are frequent posts about frozen Kindles and battery issue, which I take to be your specialty!


Posted on Jun 21, 2012, 6:54:14 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 21, 2012, 6:54:55 AM PDT
jsh1120 says:
Hi Q.

As a matter of fact, I've posted a lot in the Kindle Help Forum. When I originally started this thread I wasn't clear about the difference between the two forums so I posted it here. I think it might have been better posted in the Help Forum but I've pointed a number of users over there to this thread. I didn't repeat the entire original post on that forum simply because (a) I personally find redundant threads to be a PITA and (b) I didn't want to come across as self-promoting.

P.S. Right back atcha on the quality of your posts, by the way.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 21, 2012, 6:57:25 AM PDT
Q says:
Thanks. I was thinking I might have seen you over there but I forget who I saw where any more!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 21, 2012, 10:21:13 AM PDT
E. MacNeill says:
My internet just went out and I'm not sure if you got my reply that I just sent. It's been the four hours and i have unplugged my Kindle. After pressing the power button, the light momentarily turned green and then went off. I have waited about 5 minutes with no sign of life! I haven't tried holding down the power button for 20 seconds yet, perhaps this is my next step?

Posted on Jun 21, 2012, 10:27:10 AM PDT
E. MacNeill says:
@jsh1120, So, after being unsuccessful with attempting to turn it on, i held the power button down for approximately 30 seconds (just to be safe) then I pressed the power button once to turn it on. It turned on and made its way to the unlock screen. Then it said Power off, shutting down (this is possibly because I had low battery at the time that I went to turn it off, and it instead shut itself off? Now it is back on and installing an update as it starts up. fingers crossed that all issues are fixed!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 21, 2012, 10:35:12 AM PDT
jsh1120 says:
E. MacNeill,

It would be interesting to know what update it's installing. The last one (6.3.1) came out about six weeks ago so I'm surprised that you hadn't received it before now. When it's back up and running, take a look in Settings>More>Device and see what version of the OS you're running.

Posted on Jun 21, 2012, 10:49:54 AM PDT
E. MacNeill says:
Now I am operating under 6.3.1, but, I think that since I just got my Kindle a couple of days ago it is possible that it wasn't up to date when I first got it? It seems to be running smoothly now. Hopefully since the updates are up to date, I won't have any more issues! Thank you so much for your help and I'll be sure to use the CORRECT charger from now on! Good luck to everyone, and I'm so glad I found this forum!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 21, 2012, 11:06:34 AM PDT
jsh1120 says:
Aha...Getting a KF that's been in inventory for awhile would explain it. Good luck with your new KF.

Posted on Jun 21, 2012, 4:39:38 PM PDT
jsh1120 says:
UPDATE 6/21/12


Based on some questions from another thread, I did some experimentation with the charging process and found a condition I hadn't encountered before. (Probably not a new condition, just one I had not tested thoroughly enough.) Here's the scenario.

() You plug in the charger. If the KF is "off," it turns on.
() The orange light glows.
() You shutdown the KF by holding the power button and answering the question that appears on the screen by telling the KF to "shut down."
() The power button light turns off.

At this point the KF should be charging but you won't be able to monitor its progress via the orange turns to green power light.

() You disconnect the charger and try to turn on the KF.

() At this point the KF may fail to turn on. In fact, it may take several pushes of the button to achieve a boot. In fact, you may have to reconnect the charger to get the KF to respond.

() Once the KF is up and running if you reboot it (hold the power button for 30 seconds, allow it to turn off on its own and then press the power button again) it should operate normally.

What is apparently happening as far as I can tell is that if the KF is completely turned off, the power button will not light up. (This is contrary to Amazon's support documentation. I suspect it may have happened in the course of OS updates on the KF.) If you pull the charge cable and attempt to boot the KF it may require a couple of tries for the KF to straighten itself out.

The bottom line is that if you want to monitor the KF's charge progress, once you connect the charge cable, put the KF to sleep but don't turn it off altogether. I suspect that if you DO turn it off and wait until the battery is completely charged, you won't encounter a problem rebooting it. I strongly suspect that if the KF is "off" (not sleeping but "off") the OS may require some repeated prodding to straighten itself out.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 24, 2012, 5:41:58 PM PDT
AZ_Sobo says:
Based on the number of questions you answer just in this thread, you spend a lot of time helping people - Thank You! Your answers have helped me tremendously.

Opps, I've been plugging my Fire's in to charge and waiting till they go to the opening screen and completely shutting them far no problems turning them back on after charged but I will stop doing that.

I do have one more question:
When I bought my Fires, I also bought this charger: AmazonBasics Wall Charger with USB Outlet (2.1 Amp Output)
which is a 5v @ 2.1 amp charger,
the charger that came with the Fire is 5v @ 1.8 amp
I was under the impression that it was o.k. to use to charge faster...

Will using the 2.1 amp charger hurt the battery? I know it will charge faster but if it is at the expense of battery degradation I'll stick with the oem charger.

My Fire already seems to go through the battery a little fast for my liking, I do use WiFi more than my wife but hers last hours longer than mine, she mostly reads and plays games. Right out of the box I did the drain to 15% and full charge routine, twice for both. I've done a hard shutdown on mine, but not hers.
Need more time to see if it is WiFi usage or I got a dud.

Thanks again for your help,

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 24, 2012, 11:19:21 PM PDT
Missie says:
I couldn't find my charger and realized that the AT&T charger to my K-Mart Go Phone works fine on my Kindle.

Posted on Jun 25, 2012, 6:43:43 AM PDT
jsh1120 says:

AZ, you should be fine using the 2.1 amp charger. The KF should control the charge input. It may charge a bit faster than the charger supplied with your KF but you should find that it takes longer to charge from 90% to 100% than it does from, say, 50% to 60%.

As far as comparative battery drain is concerned, this stuff is notoriously difficult to quantify. It may be your greater use of wifi, but even the effect of wifi on battery drain will vary greatly depending on the strength of the wifi signal.

For example, my KF has wifi on almost constantly while I sit in my home office with a strong wifi signal from my router sitting a few feet away. If I do little or nothing with the KF it will easily last for 18-24 hours with almost no battery drain. On the other hand if I take the KF with me and forget to turn off wifi, there is a significant battery drain associated with the KF "looking" for a wifi signal or from a weak wifi connection.

Furthermore, if I turn the screen off when I'm not using the KF, the battery drains very, very slowly. If I leave the screen on, an hour or two later and my battery will have drained significantly. I use a utility (Screen Dim) that enables me to control brightness and contrast independently so I keep the brightness turned down and the contrast turned up. It makes a significant difference in the battery drain.

Bottom line is that if you compare your KF with your wife's, be sure to set the two units at the same screen brightness and account for the differences in wifi use and location in relation to your router. In other words, as noted above, trying to get good data for these comparisons can be tough.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 25, 2012, 7:05:06 AM PDT
jsh1120 says:

Depending on the amperage supplied by the charger, various models will charge the KF just fine or at a reduced rate. There is evidence, however, that some weaker chargers can create synchronization issues noted in this thread.

Posted on Jun 25, 2012, 11:15:35 AM PDT
jsh1120. I cannot thank you enough for all of your help. I'm so glad I found this forum and thanks once again. I've had the same problem as many people here have had. Last night I followed your instructions to the core but I wasn't aware that while I was supposed to charge it once I completely turned it off, no light (orange/green) would show. So I thought it wasn't charging. This morning when I woke up I checked it and I discovered that it was fully charged! Thanks for the info and all your help.

Also, is it ok for me to let my kindle charging every night? Thanks in advance

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 25, 2012, 12:09:37 PM PDT
jsh1120 says:

You should encounter no problems charging your KF every night.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2012, 5:16:43 AM PDT
Vee says:
I'm about to send for my 3rd Kindle Fire as well..same issues with not charging and the KF plug being loose. I hope the 3rd time really is the charm.. I bought my first Kindle Fire in December.

Posted on Jun 28, 2012, 5:24:20 AM PDT
Vee says:
I am about to send in for my 3rd Kindle Fire since buying it in December '11. This is getting really frustrating. I am having the same issues with the battery not charging and "wiggly plug" or loose port.. either way I am tiring of the issue. I have tried everything suggesting ans still nothing. Once I receive my new one..I will follow the battery conservation tips on here and see if that helps.

Posted on Jun 28, 2012, 5:31:52 AM PDT
jsh1120 says:

That's very bad luck. I hope your third time is the charm. I don't need to tell you that the port can be fragile so when you get your new one be sure NOT to force the connection, to be sure you're not trying to insert the cable "upside down" (it's easy to make the error) and to not put ANY stress on the port while you're charging the KF. That means don't try to use the KF with the cable inserted and make sure that the cable has slack when it's inserted. (As you know the cable is very short so figure out a way to charge the KF with the cable inserted straight into the KF at a 90 degree angle.)

Good luck and be sure to charge your KF for four hours or so before trying to use it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012, 4:52:47 PM PDT
kaysa says:
I have the problem with loose port connection or wiggly cord....takes me sometimes 10 minutes to finally get it to connect.....can i just buy a new charging cord?

Posted on Jun 30, 2012, 5:04:44 PM PDT
jsh1120 says:

You don't have to buy a new charge cord. If the problem lies in the cable, itself, Amazon will send you a new cable (or credit your account so you can "purchase" one free of charge.) Likewise, if the port in the KF, itself, is "loose," Amazon will replace the unit. Contact Kindle CS by using the yellow button on the right side of this page. Don't send email. Have Amazon call you; they will do so within a couple of minutes.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012, 10:26:34 AM PDT
My first was in Feb. And I'm doing what you're doing on Fire #3; so far, so good. I was careful to note the degree of wiggly on the port right out of the box, and it seems to be the same, which is honestly kind of sloppy feeling.

However, that doesn't seem to be the issue; with #1 & #2 I had resorted to placing hairclips under the charger to get the light to come on. But I think it was less a physical issue, and more what this thread is talking about. I've only had #3 for a few weeks, but I'm trying the battery-meter maintenance.
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