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Kindle Paperwhite should show "number of swipes in chapter"


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Initial post: Jun 28, 2013 1:56:01 AM PDT
I find the time left feature okay, but I have an idea that would make it a lot better. I don't know how the OS works and if this is possible, but I would guess it is. Instead of the location numbers option, make it "number of page-turns/swipes left in chapter". I would find it very helpful. What do others think?

I currently sort of use the minutes left in chapter number as a rough number of swipes left because my reading speed and preferred text size together give me a pretty accurate representation. But it's not always reliable.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 4:22:45 AM PDT
Minutes left in chapter works great for me.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 4:31:41 AM PDT
"I have an idea that would make it a lot better."

"A lot better" is highly subjective. Personally, I don't see this as an improvement nor do even I see a point.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 4:57:53 AM PDT
I agree, Dittie. Especially since the 'number of swipes' will vary depending upon the font and font size used.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 5:15:13 AM PDT
Perry says:
I think that was his point, based on the font sizes, the number of "swipes" remaining would basically be the precise number of pages remaining in the chapter for those more comfortable with paper books.

What I don't understand is why did everyone vote down and hide the first post?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 5:17:13 AM PDT
I would guess as a way to answer the OP's suggestion? Maybe answering "yes or no" to the OP, as opposed to whether it "adds" to the discussion? I dunno. Just guessing.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 5:19:03 AM PDT
**M€¥@** says:
It is just another way to voice an opinion that "this is a silly idea."

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 5:25:44 AM PDT
Perry says:
Is it silly? Having an extra option to display pages remaining in chapter available to choose? It's not a bad idea. I would suggest that he send it to kindle-feedback@amazon.com

I more agree with Folina's interpretation, but without any ranting in the original post, I don't understand why the regulars wanted to hide it per their using the votes as a poll.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 5:37:34 AM PDT
Meh. It's early. Coffee hasn't kicked in, perhaps. Minimal energy. "Too tired to type. Will just click 'no'."

Maybe others will come along and upvote it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 5:51:10 AM PDT
Perry Denton says: "Is it silly?"

IMO.. yes it is a bit silly. In general it doesn't give an ave user anything that is very useful. Time left in chapter lets you know apx how much time is left before you get to the end. You can use that to know if you have the time to continue reading until the end of the chapter. # of swipes.. not so much.

Plus the wording doesn't really work. Not everyone "swipes" to turn pages, many just tap. And there are many who wouldn't even have a clue what a "swipe" is, as a lot of people with little to no experience in modern tech like touch screens buy kindles. Not to mention that (apparently, based on reactions when someone mentions it) a lot of users don't even know they can swipe to turn pages. They would see "swipes" and be clueless about what it means.

Pages wouldn't work either because it would not match with the # of pages that books have embedded in them. Remember, when a Kindle book has page numbers it is based on a particular paper edition and does not change when fonts/sizes are changed. The changes in "pages left in chapter" as you tap would not match up with the page # changes it already shows. And the "pages left in chapter" at the end chapter would not mach up with the pages left in the book. That would be confusing to a lot of users.

It may work using the word "taps", but that might annoy the people who don't tap. Though wording it that way may give you the only real usefulness out of it. When the Kindle goofs up and jumps ahead multiple pages when you tap, it could give you an idea of how many "taps" it will take to get it back where it should be. If they do make that change we here will have to prepare ourselves for the eventual "My kindle is broken. It said 5 taps left. I tapped 10 times and now it says 7 taps left. What happened? Man the Kindle is so stupid." threads. Ugh... ;P

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 6:38:03 AM PDT
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Jason says:
I like the idea. # of minutes can be off if one is often distracted during reading sessions. This occurs frequently enough with me (wife, kids, phone call, dog needs to be let out to potty, etc.) that I know it impacts my time remaining in the chapter/book rendering the estimates if not useless, then nearly so.

"number of page-turns/swipes left in chapter" was the OP's original suggestion. Maybe "number of screens" would be more useful. Regardless of font size, with an e-reader, what is displayed on the screen is associated with pages of reading. Maybe not actual print pages, but that varies even in print books; large print editions, hard cover, paperback, etc.

While it may not make it "a lot better" is subjective, as Star-Spangled Dittie pointed out, making this configurable in the Settings would be a "nice to have" feature, at least to some of us.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 6:44:43 AM PDT
Jason says:
Maybe, but that is not its intended use. By definition, the OP, original post (yes, I know you know that is what OP stands for) defines the discussion and therefor cannot add to or take away from the discussion.

If there was a "Like" button, or something similar, that would fulfill the purpose you described. There should be the option to "Agree" or "Disagree" with the OP. Amazon may find that to be a useful metric.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 6:48:54 AM PDT
Just Peachy says:
It may not be the intended use but people will use it as they see fit. Nothing can be done about that.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 6:50:21 AM PDT
**M€¥@** says:
Amazon doesn't even provide a decent Search function on the forums. I doubt they care about adding "Like" buttons.

Posted on Jun 28, 2013 6:53:26 AM PDT
And this isn't Facebook. I think everyone can figure out what the intent behind the "Customers don't think..." message.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 6:57:46 AM PDT
>>By definition, the OP, original post (yes, I know you know that is what OP stands for) defines the discussion and therefor cannot add to or take away from the discussion.<<

I've always thought that, but when I read the wording of your argument I'm not so sure any more :-) I suppose it's possible to argue that in creating the discussion the OP sets the subject, but that their contribution to that subject can still add to or detract from it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 6:58:00 AM PDT
>>>By definition, the OP, original post (yes, I know you know that is what OP stands for) defines the discussion and therefor cannot add to or take away from the discussion.

If "discussion" includes the entire board, which is a reasonable definition, IMO, then yes/no votes make sense. Every poster uses the votes as he/she sees fit, which can include upvoting the poster because the voter likes the posters handle and downvoting because the poster is a long-time troll/toidi. I generally ignore the votes and the voting buttons. YMMV.

>>> Amazon may find that to be a useful metric.

I think Amazon ignores this forum as much as possible. Which is rather a lot.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 7:01:53 AM PDT
I don't have a PW, but I'm not interested in this. I'm not much interested in the PW's time left in chapter either - I imagine I'd turn that off right away.

You can send your suggestion to kindle-feedback@amazon.com.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 7:03:00 AM PDT
I haven't found a way to turn it off completely. It just toggles between location, page, or time left. But then, I don't pay much attention to it, anyway.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 7:15:21 AM PDT
Location number and/or page number would be fine, but I don't think I'd find time left in chapter helpful. Not a deal-breaker, mind you, just not something I'd see myself spending a lot of time and effort pondering.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 7:18:03 AM PDT
Jason says:
I know this isn't Facebook. And while "Like" is theirs, my point was that something similar could be beneficial.

If the discussion is about features someone likes or dislikes with the device (like this thread), or the cover (remember the discussions about having a magnetic closure for the Kindle's cover?), and someone starts talking about the issues with currency exchange rates when buying books in South America, then that does not add to the discussion.

I know "everyone can figure out what the intent behind the "Customers don't think...", but when it is used incorrectly, it stifles discussion. I just wish there was a better way than misusing the "Customers don't think..." option.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 7:21:47 AM PDT
Just Peachy says:
I've gotten used to the time left to read and do find it helpful in determing do I have enough time to complete the chapter during lunch time or on the bus.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 7:24:01 AM PDT
My point is that no one cares. A 'yes' vote means, "I agree." A 'no' vote means, "You're silly."

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 7:26:26 AM PDT
Jason says:
The "discussion" includes the current thread created by the OP, not the entire board. "Entire board" is synonymous in my mind with "forum". I could be mistaken, but I am not trying to argue or debate that point. What I am arguing is that the opening/original post cannot add to or detract from the discussion. The person who started the thread can in later posts do that, but not with their opening post.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 28, 2013 7:26:52 AM PDT
Me neither. Since I often read straight past the end of a chapter anyway, even when I fully intend to stop there, I can't see myself finding the length of time left any more conducive to being aware when the chapter is finished. I'd have to be remembering to watch the clock as well as look for the chapter headings :-)

If I'm in the middle of the chapter, then I want to finish it, no matter how long it takes. And if I don't have enough time to finish it (say, for example, my bus is due or my child's about to finish their music lesson and get in the car), then whether I leave off reading "here" or "there" is pretty much immaterial.

That said, I'm aware that lots of people who initially didn't expect it to be helpful have found it to be much more so than they anticipated.
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