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Initial post: Jun 20, 2013 8:21:30 AM PDT
I live in one city, Mom lives in another. Mom, myself and two daughters (in another city) are hooked to my Amazon account so we can all share books.

I recently got a library card and started downloading books to my Amazon account. Can Mom use her library card also, as long as it's linked to my Amazon account?

So really the question is will Amazon let me use more than one library card number?

And will Mom have to change her email address to mine in order to borrow and receive the eBooks?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 8:29:48 AM PDT
MikeJW says:
I don't know, but what I'd do is try it and see what happens. Let us know the results.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 8:30:39 AM PDT
Zebras says:
Yes. I share an account with several family members in multiple locations, and we use three libraries between us.

Posted on Jun 20, 2013 8:37:40 AM PDT
Zebras - and do you all need to use the same email account, the one linked to Amazon? Correct?

Mike - I will try it and report back.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 8:43:12 AM PDT
quilt lover says:
Yes you can, and if your mom downloads one from her library, you and anyone else on your account will have access to read it at the same time. You don't need the same e-mail, but you do need to open the Amazon account you are tied to before downloading the library book.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 8:44:04 AM PDT
Artist says:
I use two libraries, and I'm the only one on my account.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 8:44:57 AM PDT
Is that the coolest? People thousands of miles apart can SHARE Library books! No waiting!!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 8:48:00 AM PDT
quilt lover says:
Yes! I love it, and if your library doesn't have the book maybe the other one does, just ask the person on the account with you to check! (I share an account with my daughter who is approximately 2500 miles away, but it doesn't have to be a relative).

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 8:48:56 AM PDT
T. Cannon says:
Using the same e-mail I guess would depend upon the Library. I have two library cards at two different libraries. Neither library even knows my e-mail address. I just log into the digital library and check out a book. Once I do, it sends me to amazon where I log into my Amazon account and send the book to my Kindle. I could actually check out a book on my library card and log into my daughters Amazon account and have the book sent to her Kindle. I could not then send it to mine but my point is that the library card is not linked to my amazon account.

Posted on Jun 20, 2013 8:52:19 AM PDT
Zebras says:
You only need the e-mail address if you need to place a hold on something that is not currently available. And as someone else posted, doesn't matter what e-mail address you use, as long as your computer is logged in Ammy already when you go to check out.

Posted on Jun 20, 2013 9:20:54 AM PDT
Thank you everyone for all this wonderful information. I am so excited about the library. I went on Tuesday, for the first time in maybe 15 years, and that night when I told my husband I went to the library, he asked, very hesitantly 'Whyyyyy?' LOL!

Posted on Jun 20, 2013 10:19:59 AM PDT
Sarida says:
The last time this came up, I couldn't be quiet and got downvoted to the point my post was hidden.

I have my mom on my Amazon account because I can remotely "control" her access. It saves the step of her learning the whole way the setup works on her Fire. She can spend more time enjoying it, and I do the maintenance.

She and I live in the same county and have the same library service. While she can access the library through Overdrive for her own privacy, any Kindle books have to come through my account.

You all know how that works.

My personal objection is the moral question (although it could be legal) of accessing libraries for which you pay no taxes for upkeep. Whether it is via Amazon/Kindle or Overdrive, I just can't bring myself to ask for my sister-in-law's library card number in Houston to access that metropolitan library. I don't even live in Texas. It would be cheating, IMHO, and denying services to those in Houston who pay taxes for the upkeep of those services.

I understand the technology. I understand the idea that saying because she has it checked out, nobody from Houston can read it anyway, so I might as well read it, too. I get that. I'm just saying that I have an issue with accessing services that are not mine to access.

Speech over. Let the downvotes begin!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 10:37:41 AM PDT
Just Peachy says:
I think of it like this: If you went to visit your sister-in-law, she could hand you a book that she checked out of the library. You could read it and hand it back to her to return to the library. It's really no different with the ebooks.

Some libraries will let people outside of their area join for yearly fee. The Philadelphia Free Library is one that will handle membership through the mail. The last time I looked it was $35 per year. They had tons of Kindle books.

If you feel like you should be contributing to the library by using your sister-in-law's account, you could always just send them a donation.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 10:41:31 AM PDT
Artist says:
After the librarian handed me my library card (my first since I was a kid), I thanked him and started walking out the door. He looked at me very strangely because I didn't go look at any of the books. He asked if he could help me find something, and I said no thanks, I'm good. LOL!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 10:48:18 AM PDT
Artist says:
Sarida, you have to do whatever you feel comfortable with. I used to remind people who were giving away or selling their Kindles to someone they knew that it was against Amazon's TOS for them to leave their books on the device (since the e-ink Kindles do not automatically delete content when deregistered). A lot of people really jumped on me for that, saying that there was nothing wrong with leaving the books on the device and not to be so uptight. Truly, I didn't care, I was just reminding them of the TOS. I wasn't going to call the Kindle Kops on them! I didn't get upset about it though -- whatever they feel about that issue is fine with me. I just wouldn't do it myself. That's all anyone has control over anyway.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 10:50:24 AM PDT
There is a distinct difference between having multiple people with library cards all on the same kindle account (for example you and your mom, or me and my family members), and "borrowing" library cards from other friends and relatives just to gain access to those collections (which is what I assume you mean by asking your sister-in-law for her library card number in Houston). One is a logistical happy accident within the rules of the system. The other is deliberate abuse of the system.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 11:14:41 AM PDT
Zebras says:
Its a valid point, there are many ways to take advantage of any system. But the OP did say they were both on the Amazon account, so any book borrowed by one person, will automatically be available to the other anyhow.

Posted on Jun 20, 2013 11:18:43 AM PDT
No worries Sarida, I have over 700 books in my cloud, so I will mostly access library books from my city's public library system. Although in all fairness, I lived in my Mom's city for over 25 years and paid taxes there for many of those years. I doubt the city would mind me accessing a few books, at best, a year.

But that makes me think - if you don't live in a certain city, do you have the right to use their roads, beaches/parks, hospitals, police services since you're not paying taxes there? Not meaning to open a can of worms, but really?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 12:00:47 PM PDT
T. Cannon says:
As The Artist stated everyone needs to do what seems right to them. For me I don't see a problem with using mulitple library cards as long as the owners know that they are being used. Most libraries limit the number of e-books that can be checked out at once and I think all limit the check out period. Complying with those limits seems good enough to me.

As for not living in a certain city and using there parks, roads, beaches, etc. By being physically there to use them you may be paying taxes at least in the form of sales taxes for gas, food, lodging, etc while you are there. Also it's sort of a trade off. I use your park when I'm in your town, you use my park while you're in my town. It sort of evens out. Some cities here in Utah give a discount to the local pool, or rec center to city residents and charge more for "out of towners" even if it is just the next city over. I figure that must have something to do with the taxes issue.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 1:04:02 PM PDT
Sarida says:
Okay. I see your point. But we do sit here and tell others that ebooks don't work the same way as 3D books.

Also, when I sign that library card, I agree to the policies of that library. If that library thought there was "cheating" (improprieties?) they can revoke my privileges.

I think the Amazon connection is a gray area. Obviously, when I purchase a book from Amazon it can go to anyone on my account. That's Amazon's terms of service.

But if I check out a Kindle library book from my library and let my sis-in-law read it in Houston is that okay with my library? Even if my sis-in-law was on my Amazon account?

Now, via Overdrive. I think that is cut and dry. If I login with my sis-in-law's library card at the Houston library, then I think I am cheating the system.

So I guess we are talking about two different ways of acquiring ebooks from libraries.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 1:05:02 PM PDT
Sarida says:
Same here!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 1:05:45 PM PDT
Sarida says:
LOL @ Kindle Kops.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 1:12:33 PM PDT
Sarida says:

I wouldn't ask anyone to jeopardize their library privileges, nor would I allow anyone to jeopardize mine.

I still don't think it is "kosher" but I see what you are saying.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 1:15:25 PM PDT
Sarida says:
That's absolutely true.

My own library only allows three downloads per checkout. So I download to my Kindle, my iPad mini and leave it like that. That way if I get delayed somewhere without either of those devices, I can download the third copy to my iPhone.

Heaven forbid I'd be stranded somewhere without reading material! We had a joke on here once about "emergency reading."

ANYWAY, nobody how many devices I have on my Amazon account, my own library stops at three downloads.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 20, 2013 1:20:26 PM PDT
Sarida says:

It's not a fair comparison. If you shop in a city, you pay taxes.

BUT when you sign for a library card, you agree to that library's terms of service; their policies. Does that library allow access to people without cards who are not residents?

I have to be a resident of my county to access books from my "local" library. It's a 50 mile round trip, which is why I access it via ebooks. If I lived in that town, I'd probably use 3D books just to free up ebooks for people who live in rural areas like me.

My mother lives in the same county.

And yes, I have the right to use their roads, their hospitals, their beaches because that is the terms of service of those entities.
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