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Initial post: Jan 22, 2013 1:14:47 PM PST
My trusty Kindle 1 battery is on its way out. Kindles are now so cheap that I figure it's time for an upgrade. I want to stick with e-paper. I'm not sure about the paperwhite, I like the idea of a backlight but I think the "white" of the paperwhite being due to the backlight is a bit of a cheat (IYKWIM). Anyone know if something new is in the pipeline? Will they be bringing back text-to-speech? Perhaps I should just buy a used Touch.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 1:20:44 PM PST
 nospin  says:
There is always a new model coming out.
Kindle Keyboard, Wi-Fi, 6" E Ink Display - includes Special Offers & Sponsored Screensavers has text to speech and is still available.

If you still need or want 3G, that is also available on the Keyboard model
Kindle Keyboard 3G, Free 3G + Wi-Fi, 6" E Ink Display - includes Special Offers & Sponsored Screensavers

The basic kindle has great reviews and is loved by many if you want a replacement to tide you over until the fall.
Kindle, 6" E Ink Display, Wi-Fi - Includes Special Offers (Black)

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 1:21:11 PM PST
JES says:
There is always a new kindle in the pipeline.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 1:23:01 PM PST
Artist says:
You could just replace the batter on your K1.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 1:30:22 PM PST
1) The light on the PW is not a backlight
2) The white is not entirely due to the lighting.

I suggest you read the product page more carefully (so you understand what it is and isn't) before deciding.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 1:31:37 PM PST
MikeJW says:
The Paperwhite is NOT backlit. It has a front light, a big difference.

Posted on Jan 22, 2013 1:32:51 PM PST
Artist: I may very well do that in addition. The Kindle 1 is still a pretty good piece of kit and the whispernet is pretty nice to have on occasion. I actually have two 1s which saves having to cart one around. The new shiny calls however and backlighting, better contrast and microusb charging as well as a slightly smaller form factor would be nice to have.

I just don't want to put good money down when something better could be out next month. On the other hand, I don't want to be holding out for another six months.

Posted on Jan 22, 2013 1:37:03 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 22, 2013 1:42:23 PM PST
Good point about the front/backlighting (if a little pedantic :D ). I have seen a paperwhite in the store and was surprised at how unimpressive (compared to the touch, for example) the screen was without the light on and the light (it seemed to me) gave it a bit of an eerie cast under the store lighting. Not necessarily a deal-killer though. I can see that I'd probably just turn the light off if I wasn't reading at night.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 1:39:18 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 22, 2013 1:44:37 PM PST
MikeJW says:
Count on it: there will be a new model, but probably not next month. Then again, I (and none of us) have a clue.
P.S. and, like I said before, the Paperwhite is NOT backlit.
P.P.S. "pedantic"? Not hardly.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 1:40:53 PM PST
MikeJW says:
I've been using the Paperwhite for months, front-lit, and IMNSHO, it is the best reader, ever!

Posted on Jan 22, 2013 1:42:20 PM PST
Bridget Ruth says:
A) New kindles have been coming out in the fall, so it would be another 6 months (at least) before the kindle is even officially announced, much less released

B) The front/backlighting actually is an important distinction when it comes to eyestrain and how much light the device is casting into the room, etc

C) I think the Touch and the PW have the same underlying e-ink screen, the Pearl. The difference is the number and kind of overlays (the touch screens and the light guides go on top of the e-ink). I have a Touch, I personally see little to no difference when I hold it up next to the PWs in a store (when the PW light is off, before waking it up; but a HUGE improvement in the PW compared to the Touch when the lighting is set appropriately), and in my experience the device always looks much better at home under normal lighting conditions than it does under those weird fluorescents (especially at Best Buy, those stores have the weirdest lighting).

Posted on Jan 22, 2013 1:45:35 PM PST
Bridget Ruth says:
Another point to consider is the two different kinds of touch screens.

The Touch has an infrared based touchscreen. I have a lot of problems with IR touchscreens, always have.

The PW, on the other hand, has a capacitive touchscreen (like most smartphones). After a day or so of using one for the first time, most people have no problems.

Posted on Jan 22, 2013 1:45:42 PM PST
Bridget, thanks, your A) answers my question. Looks like it might be time to jump on a paperwhite.

Posted on Jan 22, 2013 1:46:26 PM PST
Bixillarla says:
New models of Kindle typically come out in Oct or Nov. The paperwhite and the Kindle Fires just came out in Oct and Nov, a couple of months ago. If you wait for a new model you will be waiting for awhile.

The Paperwhtie as stated is not backlit but frontlit. It is just like using a lamp to read, the light shines down on the page not from behind. It is a great reader.

If you don't the light then the Kindle Keyboard (K3) is still being sold and is a good reader as well.

It is all personal preference.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 1:50:37 PM PST
 nospin  says:
I think the Paperwhite is the best yet.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 1:51:13 PM PST
Somebody says:
I tried four Paperwhites before giving up due to screen blotches (blue, green, pink). I tried using the best of the lot with the light turned all the way down (to avoid the colors) but the lights still caused that eerie cast you mentioned. Really bothered me. I ordered the basic Kindle with the black bezel and find the screen to be outstanding. I'd had the basic before in the original color and liked it, but it wasn't nearly as good as this new one I bought. With a lamp on beside me, the background is very nearly white and there's none of the distraction that comes built into the Paperwhite. The battery lasts for ages, the size is perfect, the contrast is great, and the Amazon cover is ideal -- absolutely no complaints. You can try it out for 30 days, then return it if you aren't satisfied.

If I had to put money on when the next Kindle will appear, I'd guess late August/early September announcement with delivery three or four weeks later.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 1:55:59 PM PST
If you were here last year, you would have seen the thousands of posts from people demanding that Amazon release a product comparable to the Nook Glow, or whatever its called.

New products are usually announced just prior to the Christmas buying season. My own personal opinion is that Amazon will offer a couple of new Paperwhite models and continue with the a entry level version like the Touch.

Digitimes has already "confirmed" (FWIW) that the new Fire 3 will be released in September 2013.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 1:56:31 PM PST
Jazzy_Jeff says:
Usually the new Kindles come out around September or at least an announcement of a new one.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 2:48:46 PM PST
 nospin  says:
Oh goody, the Digitimes rumors have started.
Soon to be picked up by any digital tech with a slow news cycle.

The last two major releases were announced at press events just before mid Sept. The KK had been announced the year before that in August 2010.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 6:29:45 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 22, 2013 6:31:05 PM PST
Deb says:
@Mike: Call me pedantic, but "not hardly" is a double negative.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 22, 2013 7:03:21 PM PST
MikeJW says:
True, but a proper use of the idiomatic phrase.

Posted on Jan 22, 2013 7:12:24 PM PST
Grl says:
I have a kindle keyboard and a Kindle Fire HD. For reading I really like my Keyboard...No glare. The only problem with it is that is has no lighting, so I bought a booklight for it for 5 dollars. I have used it a lot and only replaced the light batteries 2 times in 2 years. I love my Fire HD, but for reading the only time I read from it is at night, It is heavier than the keyboard and the leather case weighs it down. I love my KFHD but use it more like a computer than a reading device. The keyboard also comes with free wifi. I have had my keyboard for 2 years now and I still love it!

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 5:39:09 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 23, 2013 5:50:30 AM PST
I've owned or used every model of e-ink Kindle since the K1. The Paperwhite is my favorite. The earlier models, including the KK, feel decidedly awkward after getting used to the smaller size and lighter weight of the Basic and the PW.

E-ink pearl was a significant upgrade to the display, compared to the K1 and K2. Also, I hated the drag and drop system for loading content on the Pre-WiFi models. Since I seldom use a keyboard and never use audio, the KK had no advantages for me and the greater size and weight were a bad trade-off. I never liked the screen responsiveness on the Touch and was glad to see Amazon discontinue it in favor of the capacitive touch screen on the PW. It's far superior in every respect.

I'm still a big fan of the Basic, however. It's small, light weight, the e-ink pearl display is great, and the physical page-turn buttons are fast and accurate. For the price, it's a great e-reader. I still use one as my secondary device and it is the model that most of my family use. We have seven of them.

I had my doubts about the PW. I'm one of many users who complained about the lack of physical page-turn buttons and thought I'd really miss them. I was also concerned about complaints by other users of uneven lighting and discoloration on the display.

Despite my reservations, I do most of my reading indoors in low light conditions and the lighted screen pursuaded me to give it a try. After all, Amazon's return policy is great and I could always return it if I didn't like it.

However, none of my concerns were warranted. For me, it's wonderful. All of the on-screen controls work great and I've found that page turns are actually faster and more ergonomic than with buttons. I love the lighted screen, its better contrast and resolution, and the ease of adjusting font sizes and lighting. I also like the auto sleep/wake function with one of the smart covers and never even touch the power button on mine. I think the Amazon covers are overpriced and use a cheaper one by Moko which works great.

It isn't perfect. I've had occasional problems with multiple page turns (skipping pages), which may be user error, but it doesn't happen often and it's no big deal to page back from time to time. Furthermore, the lighting isn't perfectly even and the display isn't perfectly white. Also, my son says he can see some discoloration under certain lighting conditions. If I really look for it, I can see it as well but never notice it when I'm reading and the display is vastly superior to any of the earlier models.

In short, I highly recommend both the Basic and the PW. If you're still using a K1 or K2, it's definitely worth upgrading to one or the other unless audio support is important to you, in which case I recommend waiting for a new model rather than buying a KK. I'm fairly certain Amazon will release a PW with audio as their next model, particularly since they own and are losing business without it.

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 5:45:35 AM PST
My PW's screen is ~squee~ inducingly beautiful.

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 5:47:29 AM PST
CBRetriever says:
and I love my Kindle Touch which I prefer to read over my K2i, Basic Kindle, Paperwhite and Kindle Fire - I really can't stand having to use the keyboard on the Basic
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