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Initial post: Jul 15, 2012, 7:52:04 AM PDT
Janny123 says:
Kindle fire----I am having the same problems with my 2nd kindle fire since the original one was given as a Xmas gift this last December so I am waiting for my 3rd
KF to arrive. I. am concerned that this is a defect and its going to continue to be a problem. My charger doesn't seem to remain tight in the input slot after continual use and consequently doesn't hold a charge for very long. What if this continues to happen after the one year warranty expires on 12-25-12?? Also if this should happen again before the warranty does expire can I get one of the 3g Kindle Fires instead of this one so it won't need wifi service as this is sometimes a hassle and maybe this version doesn't have the defective charger input wiggle problem? Does anyone know if this is even possible and is not defective? If possible I will call and request they send me this version even if there is an upcharge. THANKS for any assistance you can give me!

Posted on Jul 15, 2012, 8:00:19 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 15, 2012, 8:00:38 AM PDT
T. Cook says:
There are no 3G Kindle Fires, so no, you can`t get one.

Posted on Jul 15, 2012, 9:41:32 AM PDT
Fud53 says:
It actually sounds like you've no idea how to use your fire properly. Might I suggest reading the users guide before using the Fire and secondly try contacting amazon "help" instead of posting on a forum of kindle owners, not kindle tech code.

Posted on Jul 15, 2012, 9:42:25 AM PDT
Janny123: The absolute maxim battery time on the Kindle Fire is 8 hours! With WiFi on, streaming video, background music or intense gaming, it could be considerably less. How long is your battery lasting?

FYI: The Fire is the only color-screen Kindle. As T. Cook said, it comes in WiFi only. Period.
The other Kindles models (right now) are all non-backlit, eink black-and-white. They have much much longer batteries, some of them do come in WiFi + 3G.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012, 4:36:54 PM PDT
Janny123 says:
Thanks for your input-I appreciate it!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012, 4:49:57 PM PDT
Janny123 says:
Thank you for your input--I have read several manuels, including the User Guide and I even have the "Dummy" manuel for Kindle Fires, which I am sure "FUD53" will get a real laugh out of that, but I am a regular reader of all the Forums that discuss problems with the indle Fire, so I am familiar with using one. I simply think that there is a defect in the
charger port, and I am not the only one that is having this problem. Perhaps "FUD53" ought to do a little research
Anyway, I certainly do not know some things regarding the KF--for instance, I wasn't aware there is not a indle Fire
3G model--sure wish there was! Yes, I do seem to use my Kindle Fire alot to read, and I do play a few games, so I
am aware this uses alot of juice. I have the "Badass BAttery App" so I am frequently refering to it to make sure I
am not using up juice unnecessarily--its a great app, by the way.

Posted on Jul 16, 2012, 4:51:51 PM PDT
B. Marks says:
For what it's worth, I got a Kindle Fire not long after they became available and it gets heavy use and is charged almost every day. The charging cable still fits snugly. By the way I use that same charger to charge several other devices so it gets a LOT of uses.

If you've had that problem with 2 of them you either got them from a bad batch, in which case there probably would have been a lot more complaints, or you're doing something wrong. I suggest looking very carefully at how you're using it.

I'll make some suggestions of things I can think of, most of which will seem pretty obvious but they're things that I think might case a jack to get loose.

First, do you make sure it's plugged in all the way?

Do you pull it out not by the wire but by the plastic part of the plug?

Do you pull it straight out?

Is it possible that while it's plugged in the Fire gets moved or the wire gets moved in a way that can jerk or wiggle it in the jack?

Does anything else get plugged into the Fire?

It's important tor remember that you have two fairly thin pieces of metal meeting and if you pull at any angle at all they could bend and the jack might get wallowed out a bit. It wouldn't take much.

These are the things that come to mine. I'm not sure if that's any help but I hope so.

One more thing. When you get the new Fire I'd make sure to use the new power adapter, not the old one.


In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012, 5:11:15 PM PDT
Janny123 says:
Barry: Thank you so much for all your sugestions. Yes, as far as I know, I am correctly inserting the charger into the port and doing everything you suggested. I always charge it when it is at 15% and as I use it alot, which is each night.
I do leave it in overnight. I am very careful that I insert the plastic tip so that the insignia is on the top and I never force it. Yes, I do plan to send back the old charger with the defective KF. Oh yes, also make a point of letting it drain down to 5% juice on the lst of each month and always make sure its at 100% battery--I have the Badass Battery app, and use it regularly to make sure I am not abusing the battery. Its a great app to use! I also reboot
it once a month, which one of the techs, JSH1120 (I think thats his user I name) explained very thoroughly in the
"Kindle Fire Not Charging,Frozen, Battery" discussion forum, explained in detail how to do. I have used it whenever
have a problem, as a last resort, but I really do think have a defective KF. Other than the battery issue, which is a real hassle, I absolutely love my Kindle Fire, and hope that the new one, which will be here tomorrow, will work properly. Thanks again for your help!

Posted on Jul 16, 2012, 8:28:00 PM PDT
B. Marks says:
The thing about letting it drain to 5% once a month is a hangover from the old days of NiCad rechargeable batteries. That doesn't apply to lithium polymer batteries, which most of today's electronics use. They're a completely different chemistry.

NiCad had a problem often called "memory" where if you discharged it to about the same level a lot crystallization would take place and the battery would begin to think that level was it's real bottom level. So it was usually suggested that a full discharge every month or two would make the battery last longer. And it did. I used a lot of them. I've been using rechargeable batteries for a couple of decades.

Lithium polymer doesn't have that problem at all and it's generally a much more forgiving technology. You can discharge it a lot or a little before you charge it. However, charging it more often does help increase it's longevity. Not by a lot but by enough that it's worth doing.

I generally charge my devices when they're between 50% and about 70%. I don't mind letting them drop to about 30% sometimes but I tend to avoid that if I can. Again, it's not a big thing but it helps.

I also don't leave my devices to charge overnight. What hurts them most is heat and charging heats them. So I make sure to remove them from the charger either right after they're fully charged or even before then.

Here's a link to a generally well respected site about batteries. This link goes right to their lithium section of you'd like to read about it. Some of it is a bit technical but much of it isn't and there's a lot of good info there.

By the way, I'm not an engineer. I use a lot of rechargeable batteries and I'm retired so I have a lot of time on my hands and I enjoy learning so I've been reading about the things that interest me over the years, and that includes battery technology.


In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012, 8:34:16 PM PDT
KF_novice says:
"If you've had that problem with 2 of them you either got them from a bad batch, in which case there probably would have been a lot more complaints, or you're doing something wrong. I suggest looking very carefully at how you're using it."

Me thinks that maybe janny123 may have gotten a REFURBISHED Kindle Fire. Make sure you're getting a NEW Kindle Fire.

Posted on Jul 16, 2012, 8:38:53 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 16, 2012, 8:39:37 PM PDT
How can I get wi fi away from my home

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012, 8:59:14 PM PDT
Janny123 says:
Barry: Thank you so much for taking the time to enlighten me--I will definitely do my research on the website you
suggested, and so hopefully I will be able to maintain the life of my new Kindle Fire, and not endanger it. I was just
going by what I have read on these forums as I am definitely not an expert on lithium batteries or the care of the Kindle Fire--I am still learning
as I go. Again, you are a very nice person to take the time to help me, and I really appreciate it!!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012, 9:06:58 PM PDT
Janny123 says:
Thanks for your input-I will call the tech person when I receive it tomorrow and make sure itis a new Kindle Fire, not a refurshished one, as certainly don't wnt to go through this again!! I really think I did get two from a bad batch, and there HAVE been alot of complaints, as I have been reading about all the complaints since I first started having this
problem with the first Kindle Fire. I really love using my Kindle Fire when it works!! My brother and his wife both have the Nook, and I had thought about getting one of those, but the Kindle Fire is so much more fun!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2012, 10:21:06 PM PDT
@Humbling: You can often find free wifi hotspots at places like Starbucks and other coffee and fast food places. Also some libraries. You can probably find those places b y using Google to search for free wifi hotspots.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 23, 2012, 5:51:43 PM PDT
cat lover says:
If u want the kindle to charge stand It up right and it will charge
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