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Initial post: Jan 23, 2013 12:41:18 PM PST
And i don't even know in which category does this fit.

I just got a Kindle and i'm taking a look for the first time at all this Kindle store and stuff and i was wondering. I see tons and tons of books and authors writing and self publishing, and it's all: Read my book, is this genre, and suddenly i have a list of hundreds of books of doubtful quality in sci-fi, erotic history, sci-fi erotica, etc. etc.

My questions are:
Is there really market for all these books?
Is there a way for me (consumer) to know how many downloads has a book had?
Any other statistics about the book market on the Kindle store?

And far more important to me:
Are there any people worried about literature and good writing more than about becoming the next E.L. James or J. K. Rowling?

Regards!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 12:45:00 PM PST
King Al says:
1. Define "market." Most of these authors aren't writing these to make a living, so they don't care if their sales are very low.
2. No.
3. What other statistics?

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 12:48:53 PM PST
Stoneheart says:
read the reviews

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 12:49:44 PM PST
Odd questions. Are you an author doing some market research or scoping out competitors?

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 12:50:09 PM PST
Bridget Ruth says:
You, dear sir, have opened a can of worms.

Also, the genres "erotic history" and "sci-fi erotica" make me giggle just a bit.

But, to answer your questions:

As long as there are people more interested in a bargain price than quality, yes, there will be a market for all those books. Sadly.

AFAIK, there is no way to see total number of downloads, but you can see the ranking of the book (which is based on downloads). Scroll down the product page to Product Details, and it will tell you the book's ranking in the kindle store.

I think above kind of answers this question. Or it at least answers it as far as I am able to. I would also read the reviews on an unknown author. If all the 5 stars look like a kindergartner wrote them, avoid the book. If they all sound the same, avoid the book (unfortunately, many self-pubs utilize sock puppets and family members to pad their star ratings).

Finally, I've given up on the true self-pubbed authors, only making rare exceptions for a book that a trusted friend recommends. There are some small, independent publishing houses that deliver quality reads at a decent price (my favorite author in this category is Frank Tuttle, you should look up his author page). I think there are authors out there that just want to write a good book, but I think a lot of the self-pub market is getting flooded with delusional people who think they're the next Rowling.

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 12:50:51 PM PST
1. By market i mean people who read the book. Why would someone take the trouble to write a book and self-publish it if nobody is going to read it?
3. Statistics like how many books are bought per week, most popular categories, most popular non-genre literature, etc. That information would be useful for someone wanting to expose his/her book more adequately.

By the way, forgot to say, forgive me for my bad syntax.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 12:55:33 PM PST
>>>Why would someone take the trouble to write a book and self-publish it if nobody is going to read it?

Because they're convinced they're the next E.L. James/Stephenie Meyer/J. K. Rowling/author-of-your-choice rolled into one. And have written the Best.Novel.Ever.

>>>That information would be useful for someone wanting to expose his/her book more adequately.

This forum really isn't the venue for this conversation. You should ask these questions in the Meet Our Authors forum, in the KDP forum and/or Writer's Cafe at Kindleboards.com.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 12:57:14 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 1:01:51 PM PST
If you're interested in self-publishing, check out Writer's Cafe at Kindleboards.com. They may be able to answer your questions.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 1:04:55 PM PST
Bridget, thank you very much for taking the time to answer that.
I'm gonna look that up, and well yes unfortunately as far as i've seen the Kindle store is packed with the wanna-be Rowlings or James and stuff.
I do appreciate your time for answering again, gotta rush to work.

If you can recommend me any of those independent publishing houses, i'll be grateful!

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 1:06:21 PM PST
Wondering says:
As Cassie Anne said, some write and publish the book because they're convinced they're the next big thing in the making. Others do it simply because they enjoy writing. They put it out there in case others want to read it and they can make a bit off of it, but their main drive is the enjoyment they get from writing.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 1:07:31 PM PST
Captain says:
Then put your stuff out there. If you're any good it will sell. And the process will bring you enlightenment on all the questions you have posed.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 1:10:27 PM PST
You really need to research publishing houses and agents (if you go that route) yourself. You need to find the right publisher for your book - not all publishers publish every genre, or are looking for new works in the genres they do publish.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 1:11:45 PM PST
You're right...people publish for many different reasons. I was too flip in my answer, and shouldn't have been.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 1:13:47 PM PST
<<Why would someone take the trouble to write a book and self-publish it if nobody is going to read it?>>

I don't think all of them are convinced they're the next E.L. James et.al. Many of them just think they have something important to say and that someone may want to hear it. The crazy ones think that everyone SHOULD hear it.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 1:16:28 PM PST
King Al says:
+1. I've seen a bunch of ebooks that are only a few hundred words long but cost $10. Clearly, the authors of these books have delusions of grandeur.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 1:18:30 PM PST
T. Cannon says:
I think he was looking for a list of these small inpependant publishers as a source of reading material that Bridget trusts not as a publisher for his own work. He did mention wanting to publish his own stuff so I could be wrong.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 1:23:40 PM PST
Now that you say that, that could be what he meant. It's funny how the same words can mean something completely different to different people. LOL!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 1:28:07 PM PST
Surveyah says:
"I was thinking maybe i could throw in here a few short stories about sex and zombies and make a few bucks"

Sex with zombies just grosses me right out - I don't even like to look at them.....

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 2:00:41 PM PST
R. D. Clark says:
You seem to have gotten the impression that, for most people, the Kindle experience is about being a self-published author or reading their works.

It's not. For most people the Kindle experience is about mainstream fiction, although independent authors are getting more air today, now that more outlets are available, in the same way and for the same reasons that music acts that aren't signed to major labels are finding more success.

Like many readers, I avoid self-published authors unless trusted reviewers tell me that a book is not only likely appeal to my tastes, but is written and edited to professional standards. In other words, the same criteria I've been using to choose my reading for the last 50+ years.

Reviews matter. Those by reviewers against whose standards I have been able to calibrate my own matter most.
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