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Initial post: Oct 19, 2013 4:32:35 PM PDT
Hi,

I did a search of useable formats for my new Kindle Paperwhite and it said that I could download Adobe .pdf books from the public library. So I checked out two e-books from the library. One was in Adobe PDF format, the other was in Adobe ePub. Once I located the files in the Downloads folder of my laptop, I simply dragged and dropped them into the Documents folder of the Kindle Paperwhite, with the Kindle connected via USB. Then I safely ejected the Kindle. However, when I searched on the Kindle, I found nothing. However, when I plug in the Kindle and search the file directory, these 2 ebook files are found in the Documents folder of the Kindle. Please help solve this riddle.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 4:35:33 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 19, 2013 4:36:18 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
The Paperwhite can read Adobe PDF non DRM'd files. The ones from the library have DRM included. You need to get the Kindle format from the library to read on a Paperwhite. ePubs cannot be read at all.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 4:36:47 PM PDT
so if the Library doesn't offer "Kindle format" specifically, then it's not going to work?

Posted on Oct 19, 2013 4:37:14 PM PDT
What is DRM'd?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 4:38:35 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
Exactly. Here are the supported formats from the Paperwhite page.
Content Formats Supported Kindle Format 8 (AZW3), Kindle (AZW), TXT, PDF, unprotected MOBI, PRC natively; HTML, DOC, DOCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP through conversion

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 4:39:38 PM PDT
But the Library copy said Adobe PDF - and you put PDF in your list of supported formats?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 4:40:14 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
DRM is Digital Rights Management. That is a copy protection added to the books so that they cannot be copied illegally. Most Kindle books have DRM as do books from other major sellers like Barnes and Noble and Sony.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 4:41:27 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
It has to be unprotected PDF without the DRM. All books from the library has DRM.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 4:43:55 PM PDT
I don't get it....so the library offers e-books for download but you can't read them?

Or you can only read them on a laptop and not a Kindle?

What good is the Kindle then if you can't download a book to it, or only a very small selection of Kindle format books?

Do the Kindle format books have DRM?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 4:46:05 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
Maybe this will help. I also included a link:

Borrow Books from a Public Library
More than 11,000 libraries in the United States offer Public Library Books for Kindle. You can check out eBooks through the website of your local library and have them sent directly to your Kindle device or reading app.

Kindle books that you borrow from a public library are available to you for a specific period of time, just like with library books. Public library books for Kindle are available at libraries throughout the United States. These books are offered through a digital service called OverDrive.

Note: Public Library books for Kindle are available in the .azw Kindle Edition format only.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=200747550

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 4:50:15 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
There are different ereaders on the market and they read different formats than the Kindle.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 4:51:57 PM PDT
Miss Carol says:
I'm wondering - where did you see that you could get Adobe books that will work on your Paperwhite? I know you can get the Overdrive app on the Fire and get them that way - but I don't recall seeing anything about that for the e-ink devices.

Posted on Oct 19, 2013 4:53:20 PM PDT
Jazzy_Jeff says:
http://phoenix.lib.overdrive.com/1EF935B6-5171-4BA9-9786-BFB39E7C253B/10/50/en/ContentDetails.htm?id=7D9E8644-B1D0-4CE3-A4D3-DFA2039DB134

This is an example from the Phoenix Library. Notice it shows a Kindle version along with the ePub. Not all libraries support the Kindle format.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 4:57:54 PM PDT
All books from the library have DRM - apart from anything else, the borrowing period restriction operates as a form of DRM.

Unfortunately, at this stage in time epub is the standard open-source format for ebooks. Consequently Overdrive (the library ebook borrowing system) has focused on epub files ahead of kindle files. You have to be patient, basically, and more kindle-format titles will come. In the meantime, you might want to keep an eye on sites that advertise which kindle books are free on any given day, so you can still find plenty to read without having to pay for them.

Consider yourself lucky that you're in a country where there are ANY kindle-format books via Overdrive. There are none here (Australia) yet. That said, I did find a way to access library books on my kindle anyway. It just requires a bit of tech savvy and a willingness to bend the rules.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 5:21:34 PM PDT
Okay - this is helpful. One more question: Do I have to login to my Amazon account to get library books onto my Kindle - seems like I was able to download the books straight to my computer from the public library website and then i just dragged and dropped into my Kindle when it was plugged in via USB - (except of course, it didn't work because I had wrong format). Would it work to do it this way once with a Kindle friendly file format?

Posted on Oct 19, 2013 5:26:03 PM PDT
If you would read the Amazon documentation on how to do public library books, it will tell you everything you need to know. Jazzy_Jeff already gave you the link to it: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=200747550.

You have to be logged into your Amazon account, so that the DRM can be set up appropriately.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 5:26:11 PM PDT
Bixillarla says:
No. The kindle books from the library will be sent via Amazon, you will need to connect to the Amazon server to download them.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2013 7:19:52 PM PDT
okay thanks everyone for your help. I appreciate the troubleshooting. Just successfully downloaded the first e-book to the kindle from the public library.

Posted on Oct 19, 2013 7:43:48 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 19, 2013 7:45:43 PM PDT
PS56k says:
As mentioned, there are really TWO totally different worlds regarding reading ebooks.

The pure hardware ereaders - like the Paperwhite
These are limited to their internal firmware for avail formats (listed in prev msg)
- but with NO Apps for other ebook formats -

The software application tablet readers
like the iPad, Nook, Kindle tablets, and smartphones are more flexible...
these are only limited by which Apps might be loaded and which formats can be used by those Apps.

I have orig Kindle K1, and the keyboard K3 -
On our iPad -
I have installed the iBooks app, Nook app, Kindle app,
and Overdrive app for library ePubs.
Same on our Android tablet - except no iBooks app of course.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 20, 2013 8:19:39 AM PDT
lonbeehold says:
Jordan, enjoy! I read many ebooks from the library. Almost all of the titles I want to borrow are now offered in the Kindle format but there are a few that are still ePub only. Since I prefer reading on an eink reader to a tablet (I do have all of the e-reading apps mentioned above on my iPhone and iPad and use them occasionally) I bought a Nook Simple Touch for those few titles I can only get get in ePub.
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