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Initial post: Mar 17, 2013, 12:30:12 PM PDT
I am considering the Fire HD with 4G. The plan is $50 for the 1st year, great. What about year 2? Is there a new pricing? If I don't like the 4G plan for the 2nd year can I decline it? or am I forced to take whatever 4G plan Amazon insists on?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 12:34:24 PM PDT
Carl - It's not up to Amazon. You'll be charged whatever the going rates are at AT&T. You can discontinue the service if you don't want it.

Current rates are -

$15/mo - 250MB
$30/mo - 3GB
$50/mo - 5GB

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 12:34:33 PM PDT
MikeJW says:
Come on, now, Carl, relax. No, you don't have to purchase a data plan in the second year; you don't have to purchase it the first year. The data plan is from AT&T, not Amazon. So, check out AT&T's website and you will see the various plans offered.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 12:35:00 PM PDT
B. Marks says:
As I understand it the 4G plan comes from AT&T. Amazon has arranged for 250 meg a month from them for you for $50 for one year. After that year you have to negotiate your own plan with AT&T.

Be aware that 250 meg a month is enough to check email as long as you don't download any attachments and they don't have any pictures, and look at a few web pages. It's not enough to do much else. It also can't be used for downloading videos or books or for watching streaming videos.

Unless you have some special need to check email and a few websites while on the go, I don't think you'll find that very useful. However, if you do have such a need that's a good price for the first year. After that you're on your own.


In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 12:40:25 PM PDT
Barryem - Where do you get the idea you can't download books? That's the primary reason for having the 4G access is to browse the Kindle Store and download books.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 1:09:13 PM PDT
B. Marks says:
That's the way I understand it. Am I mistaken? I just checked their page for that Fire and I couldn't find anything about it one way or the other.


Posted on Mar 17, 2013, 1:12:47 PM PDT
pjf says:
$15 a month is too much for me, given I would only want it in rare circumstances. The $50 year was just perfect as a backup for a rare need. I am sure hoping AT&T and Amazon will work out some similar cheap one price plan for those of us that would want one when the time comes. Surely $50 a year from a lot of people is better than no dollars at all from the group of people that don't want a monthly plan. At least we can hope Amazon and AT&T will work something out.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 1:23:32 PM PDT
James Horlan says:
I'd been wondering just how much data 250 MB represents, and am kind of appalled at how little it is. I'm strongly considering getting a tablet of some sort as my next computer, but I'm kind of wondering now.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 1:24:41 PM PDT
Carbonbased says:
Yes Barryem, you are mistaken. I have the 8.9 HD 4G and subscribed to the promotional plan in December. I have used it to download books, some magazines, some podcasts, mp3 singles. The individual file size limit is 50MB, which seems like a good deal, so I don't inadvertently blow my whole month's usage in one go.

Posted on Mar 17, 2013, 1:57:17 PM PDT
I do understand that one cannot choose a plan other than AT&T as the 4G is locked to them. Is this correct?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 3:26:17 PM PDT
flipoid says:
Barryem, since book files are so small, downloading books using the 4G would use hardly any of the 250MB (I download books on my Android phone quite often, as well as checking email, occasionally using the Internet, and occasionally playing online games like Words with Friends and don't come anywhere close to using the 150MB I have on my phone plan each month).

That's one reason Amazon could afford to include the 3G for free on the e-ink Kindles--book files are very small.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 3:28:31 PM PDT
flipoid says:
"Appalled", for $50 for a whole year for the first year? No, a tablet's 4G is not going to allow you to browse the Internet to your heart's content, stream videos and music, etc., but the 250MB is nice for when you're not near a wi-fi spot.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 4:53:57 PM PDT
pjf says:
so far as I know it is locked to them.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 5:08:26 PM PDT
GnomeEd says:
The 250MG applies to 4G only. It does not apply to a wifi connection. You can connect the Fire via wifi and stream all movies you want and surf the web 24/7 if you so desire using wifi.

The 4G is generally used to download books when wifi is not available or maybe check email in an emergency.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 5:46:54 PM PDT
B. Marks says:
I realize that books are small files. I thought I remembered that that was part of the limitation on the Fire 4G, but it seems I'm mistaken. I'm still not convinced of it's usefulness, at least for me.

I have a Fire HD (7") and a 3G Paperwhite that I use for reading. I've considered getting the 8.9" Fire HD but the 4G model only tempts me because it's available in 64 gig. If the Wifi version was available in 64 gig I probably would have one already.

The problem with 4G is that, unlike wired internet connections, there's only so much of it and, given the current state of the technology, there's no way to get any more. One way to ration a limited resource is to keep the price up.

I'm sure they're working on that and when there's enough bandwidth to make it unlimited and inexpensive, as with wired connections, all these devices are going to become ultra-useful.

To James, who's considering buying a tablet, my suggestion is don't consider one as a replacement computer. They're not that good yet. There's still a lot that a laptop can do that a tablet can't. But a tablet is a delightful additional gadget to have. :)


In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 6:01:40 PM PDT
flipoid says:
I just got a Surface Pro and for me it IS a laptop replacement. It's a full-fledged Windows computer but also has tablet features (touch screen, apps--though not as many, of course, as Apple or Android--video streaming, Kindle reading app). Of course, it is wi-fi only, but there are very few laptops with built-in 4G.

I also love my original Fire 7" and my iPad mini--what can I say; I'm just a gadget person. (-:

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 6:32:29 PM PDT
B. Marks says:
I was thinking more of Android tablets and Ipads when I said they aren't a laptop replacement. I think that's less true of a Windows tablet, although I think it's still somewhat true.

I bought an Acer W510 Windows 8 tablet with the keyboard dock a few weeks ago, right after they became available. I didn't keep it for reasons that aren't really part of this discussion, but I had it for about 2 weeks and I spent a lot of time with it. It's pretty capable in a lot of ways. Of course a tablet like that with an Atom CPU isn't on par with the Surface Pro but it gave me a pretty good idea what can be done.

I don't doubt that there are people who could use that to replace a laptop, probably quite a few. But I think for most people it's still going to be more practical in addition to a laptop.

I also think there are people who can replace a laptop with an Android tablet, but there are far fewer of them.


In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2013, 7:57:55 PM PDT
pjf says:
I have had the surface pro in my online cart a number of times these last two weeks and just have not clicked that final buy button. Good to hear you like it. Like you, I want it more than need it - one reason I keep talking myself out of it.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 18, 2013, 1:07:17 PM PDT
flipoid says:
I needed it, actually, to replace a netbook that was getting old. So far, for me, it's been worth every penny.
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