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Really wanting the page forward buttons back as an option on the new Paperwhite!


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Initial post: Oct 29, 2013, 8:09:40 PM PDT
As a *mature* reader of the advanced age of 52, I've gotten a touch of arthritis and tendinitis in my arms and hands, and my eyesight has gotten worse. The first several kindles I owned had the click buttons on the side so that you truly could turn with either hand and use it one-handed. Being a left-hander, this came in truly handy ;-) However, I've seen the newer offerings with the better screens and backlighting coming only in the touchscreen. Now, I've got a touch right now, and it's tiring to use for me, as you really can't turn the page with your left hand.. unless you want to go backwards. I inquired of the amazon customer service guy: Is there any way to reverse the settings so that touching the left side would make it go forward? No. Are there any new kindles coming out with the backlighting and the new paperwhite screen that will help my feeble eyes that will also have the option of the clickable buttons on either side? Nope. I can get a "refurbished" old kindle if I want that. Hmm. Okay, Jeff Bezos. I'm loving the "get a cheap/free ecopy of books you've purchased physically from us" that just came out today and saved several $$. Now, I'd like to use that to buy a new kindle but I want one WITH CLICKABLE BUTTONS. Why do none of the new ones have them? I don't like touch and would like to have the option at least to get them on a new kindle with a great new screen, not some crappy refurb. Help!

Posted on Oct 29, 2013, 8:41:35 PM PDT
Artist says:
Jeff Bezos doesn't read this forum. Send a message to kindle-feedback@Amazon.com.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 29, 2013, 8:59:29 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 29, 2013, 9:02:39 PM PDT
musicmomma says:
I am a person of an age that is OLDER than you and yes I have more than a touch of arthritis and the Paperwhite works just fine for me. I love that I can turn the page with a touch of my finger. I also love that there is only one button on--the on/off button. I do not use that at all.

I do not think they will change the Paperwhite because too many people like it the way it is.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 12:25:29 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
at 11 years older than you, I do not want buttons on my paperwhite, a gentle tap of my finger or thumb to change a page is all that's needed

and I think that the Paperwhite is ideal for laft-handers as when it's held in your left hand, you only need to move your thumb about the distance from being held next to your forefinger to its natural position when your hand is open to reach the page forward space on the kindle (only the left 3/4" is page back and the top 3/4" is menu - the entire rest of the screen is page forward)

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 2:06:08 AM PDT
The Paperwhite, according to many people on the forum, is much more responsive than the Touch you currently have. Even without buttons, you might find it much more bearable if you gave it a go.

PS. The Paperwhite is not backlit; it's frontlit.

Posted on Oct 30, 2013, 3:23:39 AM PDT
Kribu says:
If I could have a Paperwhite with the page turn buttons of my old Kindle 3, that would make it a perfect reader.

I've used my 1st generation Paperwhite daily for a year now and most of the time, it's okay - even so, it often takes more than one tap to turn the page, especially when my hands are cold, which they mostly are. Also, when it's colder at home, I'd really really really like to keep both hands under a warm fleece or blanket - with the Kindle 3, I could easily use the page turn button through the cover while with the Paperwhite turning the page without an uncovered hand is impossible.

I have peripheral blood circulation issues, so my hands are generally cold; I've tried various options, such as wearing a glove with one fingertip cut off for turning the page but even that means a frozen fingertip (and I've yet to find any meant-for-touchscreen gloves with conductive material fingertips that would actually be comfortable to wear). I've also resorted to using a stylus to turn the page, but that seems to register the taps even worse than a bare finger. :-/

So, yeah, page turn buttons would really be appreciated. I've used the Paperwhite instead of the Kindle 3 because its good points (light, font selection, contrast) outweigh the lack of buttons, but as much as I have loved my Kindles, this is the one thing I wish were different about the new models.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 3:54:47 AM PDT
Part of what makes your finger conductive is moisture, Kribu, and cold hands are usually drier than warm hands. When my phone doesn't register my finger's touch, I breathe on my finger and try again, and it usually works.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 4:26:10 AM PDT
MikeJW says:
Kribu, my stylus works perfectly on my Paperwhite.

Posted on Oct 30, 2013, 4:30:37 AM PDT
Debi says:
One could always get a stylus. I assume they work on PW also. I've never figured out why people feel it's so hard to reach over to turn a page? You've had to do it for years with DTB. I know people complained about the DX only having the buttons on the right side when it came out also. I've never had a problem, like anything in the right hand world I adapted without any issues.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 4:35:27 AM PDT
ScottBooks says:
This is a flat out lie. I had the original Touch and I have had the first PW for over a year. It is a 30-70 proposition at best that you page forward if you reach as far across the screen with your left thumb as possible when holding it in your left hand. Backwards is much more likely.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 4:38:20 AM PDT
Sorry, Scott. I have to agree with CB on this one. I have NO problems turning a page on my Touch by just reaching with my thumb and I'm older than the OP by several years.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 4:52:29 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
and on the pdf of the user guides for the Touch & Paperwhite look at page 7 for the paperwhite and page 11 for the Touch for the tap zones

http://kindle.s3.amazonaws.com/UserGuide/Paperwhite_V2/Kindle_Paperwhite_V2_UserGuide_US.pdf
http://kindle.s3.amazonaws.com/Kindle_Touch_User_Guide_3rd_Edition_enUS.pdf

and I just measured it and the cutoff point is actually 1/2 inch

Posted on Oct 30, 2013, 5:11:41 AM PDT
How did you lefties turn pages on DTBs?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 6:25:49 AM PDT
Kribu says:
Breathing on my finger does work, but it gets tedious doing that every 30 seconds...

Honestly, it's a small quibble in the big picture but people DO have real reasons to miss those page turn buttons, whether it's because the constant thumb movement to tap the page causes pain in a way that pressing the page turn button didn't.

I'm not finding that a problem as such myself but it *does* mean more, constant, thumb movement for me - I could just let my thumb rest on the page turn button with the Kindle 3 and do a light down-press to turn the page but with a touchscreen, I can't let my thumb hover over the reading area - both because sometimes it'll end up accidentally touching the page and because it covers up some text. So I have to keep my thumb over the bezel and move it slightly every time I want to turn the page. It's a small motion, but different compared to using buttons, and some people with repetitive strain injury problems could easily find it an issue. (I do get occasional RSI-related issues in my wrists, hands and fingers, so it's something that worries me a bit as a future problem.)

(And yes, I am aware this is a customer forum. Unfortunately it's also pretty clear that Amazon - who is, by now, quite aware that a lot of their customers would prefer to get buttons back - more likely than not isn't going to do that, so at some point it becomes just a need for all those button-preferring customers to vent somewhere where they might expect to find others sympathetic to their cause, as there isn't really much else to do.)

In my perfect world, we'd get touchscreen Kindles with side page turn buttons so that people could choose whether to use the screen or the buttons. I do love the touchscreen for anything else - compared to Kindle 3's five-way navigation control, it's so much easier and nicer. And in every other sense, the Paperwhite is close to perfect, too. I still miss those buttons though...

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 6:28:49 AM PDT
CBRetriever says:
see, that's where the Touch was better - I could tap with the back of a fingernail and it would change the page

btw, the Touch with its text to speech is available again

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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 6:31:23 AM PDT
Nice!!! I may get a spare as I like the text to speech

Posted on Oct 30, 2013, 6:31:58 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 30, 2013, 6:37:49 AM PDT
Physical page turn buttons are going the way of the dinosaurs. Kobo eliminated them. Sony eliminated them in favor of capacitive touch "buttons". Amazon has eliminated them in all but the low end non-touch screen device. And now B&N is in the process of eliminating them. They just released the new Glowlight model today and they eliminated the page turn buttons on them.

Face it.. like it or not, everything is moving to either touch screens or capacitive touch buttons. Phones. Tablets. eReaders. Game consoles. BR players. TVs. Even cars and computers are starting to slowly make the move.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 7:40:14 AM PDT
TravelingGal says:
It doesn't really work for me but perhaps I have short fingers. If I hold it in my left hand, I can just barely reach far enough with my thumb to turn the page but it's very uncomfortable and I frequently end up going backward instead. I'm not left-handed, I just like to alternate hands when reading for a long period of time and the PW doesn't work well for that for me.

I miss the page turn buttons as well. Everything else about the PW is fine.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 8:52:27 AM PDT
Please don't call us "mature". Lol. I'm with you about the page turn buttons. I like them better than the touch screen. And before anyone jumps in to tell me I need to get with the new technology, I'm typing this on my touch screen tablet and I have a couple of smart phones. I simply prefer the non-touch screen for reading.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 3:58:49 PM PDT
B. Marks says:
Since your fingertips are often too cold to turn the page have you considered using a stylus? I realize that isn't ideal but it should solve that problem.

Barry

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 4:00:08 PM PDT
B. Marks says:
If you swipe instead of tapping you can do that anywhere on the page.

Barry

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 30, 2013, 4:21:01 PM PDT
ScottBooks says:
You can't swipe one-handed and you can't swipe to turn the page when reading blogs, magazines or newspapers. The screens are great--it's just a much more uncomfortable reading experience than the Keyboard or K1 or Basic Kindle (all of which I also have).

Posted on Oct 30, 2013, 9:37:05 PM PDT
musicmomma says:
I have very cold fingers (actually I am cold all over--all the time) and when I can't get the pages to turn, I use a stylus. Most of the time i do not have problems with the Paperwhite and turning pages.

As I stated before, I do have arthritis and many time my fingers hurt but no matter what anyone says, I think the Paperwhite is easier to use. I have two of them and would not give them up for anything.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 31, 2013, 5:52:05 AM PDT
ScottBooks says: "You can't swipe one-handed..."

Don't you mean YOU can't? Because I can swipe one-handed (left and right hand) just fine.

"It's just a much more uncomfortable reading experience than the Keyboard or K1 or Basic Kindle (all of which I also have)."

For you personally maybe.. but not others. I have found the Paperwhite to be far more comfortable than any other Kindle I owne (K1, K2, K3, and Basic).
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