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In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 5:09:51 AM PDT
RV: Socialism and the Democrat Party are waging a war against the poor.

BPL: It's not the Democratic Party that wants to cut social spending to the bone, privatize or eliminate the whole New Deal, and blame poor people for not being willing to work. It's you Republicans.

BTW, it is "Democratic Party," not "Democrat Party."

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 5:11:53 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 25, 2012, 5:17:03 AM PDT
RV: oil is not a "fossil fuel" made up of emulsified dinosaurs, but a natural compound of minerals throughout the solar system.

BPL: No, that's completely wrong.

RV: NASA - Titan's Surface Organics Surpass Oil Reserves on Earth
Feb 13, 2008 ... Larger image Saturn's orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid
hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on ...

BPL: Not all hydrocarbons are oil, Rachel-san. The hydrocarbons on Titan are overwhelmingly methane and ethane, with traces of acetylene and dozens of other organics.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 5:16:12 AM PDT
Smurf: #6 "Western Governments discover that there's no money to be made out of making poverty history, just when poverty is discovered to be caused by taxable carbon"

BPL: Straw man.

Smurf: #8 Data homogenization adjustments are invariably the more negative the older the data

BPL: A lie.

Smurf: #10 Climate change materializes as a worldwide emergency to be solved by typically-leftist social order interventions, immediately after the Soviet Union collapses and Communism with it

BPL: Cap and trade is a market mechanism, not "leftist social order intervention."

Smurf: #50 In the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s and 1970s The New York Times published articles about melting polar ice scares. This time, however, AGW is involved so it must be true

BPL: How about checking the evidence?

Smurf: #61 Unique among all sciences, climatology develops yet finds no surprise whatsoever, apart from when it's worse than we thought

BPL: You haven't ever read a climatology journal, have you? Suffice to say your statement is crap of the purest ray serene. BTW, most climatological research is not about global warming. Didn't know that, did you?

Smurf: #65 AGW is a solid scientific theory demanding for immediate action, even if nobody has figured out what if anything could ever falsify it

BPL: Just falsify quantum mechanics and you're home free.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 5:33:50 AM PDT
I've heard about that before, it's part of the wildly discredited idea that oil is a naturally occurring substance in the earth that regenerates so we never have to worry about running out.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 6:17:21 AM PDT
PapaSmurerf says:
There were dinosaurs on Titan, then, where it rains hydrocarbons? Sure, there were.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 7:05:54 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 25, 2012, 7:07:57 AM PDT
You have no understanding of science.
Petroleum doesn't come from dinosaurs, it comes from ancient zoo plankton algae.
Hydrocarbons encompass a multitude of different things including petroleum and methane.
Basically any compound made out of only hydrogen and carbon is a hydrocarbon.
They found methane on Titan, methane is naturally occurring.
Methane and petroleum aren't the same things.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 7:09:42 AM PDT
Oh yes, we can implicitly believe what the "witnesses" said, because someone else said they said it, and there is no independent documentary evidence for either the witnesses or those who quoted the witnesses.

Very convincing!

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 7:20:17 AM PDT
freedom4all says:
Rachel, Great post on the use of politics to limit human development.

Of that statistic is very mislead. 75% of the resources that are used today. Humanity will discover both new resources and new technologies to be able to expand the standard of living. The earth is huge, the solar system looks infinite in its resources.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 7:21:23 AM PDT
The problem with using resources outside of earth (with the exception of sunlight) is that they're extremely expensive to develop.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 7:28:55 AM PDT
Not just expensive, very dangerous, I've read about the possibility of nudging an asteroid into earth orbit so it could be mined.
It's pretty obvious what could go wrong with that.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 7:36:25 AM PDT
Dagny Tag says:
"Proven reserves of natural gas on Earth total 130 billion tons, enough to provide 300 times the amount of energy the entire United States uses annually for residential heating, cooling and lighting"
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Science is not going to solve the problems anytime soon and oil or fuel is not the big problem. Using energy and refining it makes entropy which is low grade heat. Even solar and wind add to this heat. The entropy does not radiate back to space as fast a the huge population makes it. Ideas have not improved that process as it is a huge amount of work that we do not have the resources to solve. Denial of over population is a very human flaw that if not recognized as a problem will bring suffering no matter how much energy we have. I myself find that living on several acres of natural environment makes living with less energy better for the well being and quality of life.
Wealth is not all material and he who has the most toys at death is not a winner. Sapience trumps sentience. The world's economics and democracy does not work without slaves. If everyone was free to pursue their own quality of life we would not have cooperation and efficiency. Doing things for a common goal requires some to suffer.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 7:39:09 AM PDT
What?

Oh, you mean........

:)

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 7:39:42 AM PDT
freedom4all says:
arpard fazakas says:
The problem with using resources outside of earth (with the exception of sunlight) is that they're extremely expensive to develop.

f4a: With present technology.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 7:41:56 AM PDT
freedom4all says:
Lisareads's post: Doing things for a common goal requires some to suffer.

f4a: The mantra of authoritarianism. "For the good of all, the ____ must be eliminated" Just fill in the blank with what is needed.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 8:13:46 AM PDT
I take it you believe that all problems can be solved by technology?

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 8:34:44 AM PDT
f: the solar system looks infinite in its resources.

BPL: You never got that finite-infinite difference, did you?

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 8:35:49 AM PDT
arpard fazakas says:
The problem with using resources outside of earth (with the exception of sunlight) is that they're extremely expensive to develop.

f4a: With present technology.

BPL: With any technology. It takes a certain irreducible minimum energy to change an orbit. And the more mass you do it for, that times many more energy compared to unit mass. There is no way around that, ever.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 10:00:15 AM PDT
freedom4all says:
arpard fazakas says:
I take it you believe that all problems can be solved by technology?

f4a: Look at the standard of living 1,000, 500, 250 and 125 years ago. What happened?

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 10:03:04 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 25, 2012, 10:03:34 AM PDT
freedom4all says:
BFL, I said 'looks' in perspective to human kinds meager needs.
You never learned to read.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 10:30:23 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 25, 2012, 11:32:11 AM PDT
KING CONAN says:
You will not talk badly about Al Gore's
Carbon Tax in Australia or you
will be HEAVILY fined.
(so much for their Magna Carta)

EDIT:
Well.....Only up to $1,500,000

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 10:44:00 AM PDT
So someday technology will make us live forever? All diseases will be curable? Our energy problem will be solved? Overpopulation no longer a problem?

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 10:53:33 AM PDT
freedom4all says:
af, ridiculous of course. The curve is exponentially upward. Yogi said 'prediction is hard, especially about the future.'

We could nuke ourselves into the stone age. But baring that or a deep impact from space, the outlook is very positive. Oh I forgot Yellowstone killing us all.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 11:05:23 AM PDT
Unless we discover a technology that can go around basic physics.
Who knows what will happen in the future, that's part of the fun of Scifi.
But it's not likely to happen anytime soon.

One of my favorite books was Ringworld, just think how difficult that would be to build.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 11:05:59 AM PDT
In the year 3000......

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012, 11:06:09 AM PDT
I don't know how you can be so optimistic when there's gonna be 9 billion of us by 2050, any solution to the AGW problem is a long way off if ever, more and more countries are getting nuclear weapons, bioterrorism is a genuine possibility, etc. I'm not saying we're doomed, but I'm not saying it's guaranteed that things will be hunkey-dorey either.
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