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Initial post: Feb 15, 2013, 7:40:24 AM PST
Where could Shamshu Miah have gotten such a crazy idea as to think that Islam allowed him to beat his wife?

"Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them." -- Qur'an 4:34

"Muslim man who claimed religion allowed him to hit wife," by Owen Hughes for the Daily Post, February 13:

A Muslim man who claimed his religion entitled him to hit his wife has been given a community order.

Shamshu Miah, 58, of Alexandra Road, Llandudno, struck his wife three times after she did not get him a cigarette.

He later told police his religion allowed him to hit his wife if she did not do as she was told.

Yesterday Llandudno magistrates court heard his wife continued to support Miah, who suffered from bipolar episodes.

The court heard she wanted him to move back to the family home.

Miah was ordered to undertake community mental health treatment. He has to pay £85 costs.

--From "Jihad Watch" for February 13, 2013

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 7:47:18 AM PST
Ryan S. Hupp says:
"who suffered from bipolar episodes"

Gosh, that couldn't possibly be relevant. It must be the evil mind control rays emanating from Mecca that made him do it!

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 7:59:28 AM PST
W.T. Keeton says:
The dude may be crazy, but he does understand Islam correctly.

Posted on Feb 15, 2013, 8:01:12 AM PST
Ice King says:
It's a good thing no other religions have been misunderstood in ways that led to violence.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 8:17:01 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 15, 2013, 8:21:02 AM PST
Robert Spencer was alluding tongue-in-chief to charges that people like me who are concerned with the threat posed by Islamists don't understand Islam. He does that a lot.

Rick Wright

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 8:20:14 AM PST
A subtle allusion to the "argument" that if Islamists, say, do bad things, it's ok because Southern Baptists, say, do bad things, too.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 8:25:27 AM PST
Ice King says:
No, bad behavior from all religions is unacceptable. I'm just pointing out that Islam isn't the only one that has bad members who choose to interpret their religion in a way that allows them to do whatever they want.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 8:46:32 AM PST
Susanna says:
It is currently the only religion that I know of which condones honor killings. We are talking thousands of women a year. It isn't anything to write off as acceptable under the guise of "tolerance."

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 10:50:41 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 15, 2013, 10:50:56 AM PST
W.T. Keeton says:
Apparently, being opposed to honor killings is "Islamophobic". That's what I have learned here in these forums.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 12:00:29 PM PST
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Posted on Feb 15, 2013, 12:46:21 PM PST
C. Batty says:
I assume, being a good Christian, that you slaves, don't eat pork and never shave.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 12:49:16 PM PST
What?
Little antecedent confusion going there, C?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 1:30:45 PM PST
C. Batty says:
Leviticus--its not just for gay people anymore.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 1:42:47 PM PST
I set more store by Ecclesiastes.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 1:45:09 PM PST
C. Batty says:
No, no, no. You have to live by every single word written in the Bible. That's the standard you apply to Muslims.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 1:47:45 PM PST
Nonsense.
Have you read the Koran?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 1:48:14 PM PST
C. Batty says:
Yes. Have you read the Bible?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 1:56:59 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 15, 2013, 1:58:07 PM PST
Yes.
Have, and do.
I was brought up on it.

Rick Wright
agnostic, raised a Methodist

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 1:57:33 PM PST
muslims seriously support the "rule of thumb."

A husband is allowed to hit his wife as often as he desires with a wooden stick provided it is no larger than his thumb.

If he hits her with a larger stick in the presence of 3 unrelated male witnesses, then they are fully authorized by the quran to give the husband a solemn serious verbal lecture (;-D)

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 2:01:48 PM PST
Ryan S. Hupp says:
Hi-frigging-larious. Never mind that the furthest back anyone can date the phrase "rule of thumb" is medieval England.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 2:04:14 PM PST
L. King says:
Have you looked at statistics on battered women?

This is too important an issue to be used as a political battering ram.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 2:04:56 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 2:10:41 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 15, 2013, 2:11:40 PM PST
Guess that statement proves mr. critic is wrong!
Unlike the outgoing pope, Hupp is infallible.

Although a careful reading of mr. critic's post will reveal he didn't claim that muslims have actually used the phrase "rule of thumb."

Just the rule.

But to quote Hillary Clinton, "What difference does it make!?"

Posted on Feb 15, 2013, 2:13:33 PM PST
Mickey Ryan says:
Lol...Islam is disgusting.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2013, 2:24:02 PM PST
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