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Initial post: Dec 18, 2012, 3:04:26 PM PST
Promoting assault-style weapons might lead to, uh, assaults? Who could have guessed?!?!

Posted on Dec 18, 2012, 3:12:16 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 18, 2012, 3:14:05 PM PST
E. Higby says:
There is no such thing as an assault weapon. There are people, however, that label everything under the sun an "assault weapon." Nothing except more guns can eliminate these whack jobs, kid or no kid, except more guns in responsible people's hands. Suppose the teachers there were armed? WE would have had a VERY different outcome. If you don't believe me, look at what Israel does to protect itself. AND, check your facts... because the more people that have guns, the more crime DROPS. THIS IS FACT and many examples exist. If people would stop blaming guns and look at the people and what causes this violence, we will have made a major step in the right direction. If he did it with a kitchen knife, should we ban those too? More people are killed in cars, lets ban them. For some reason people (most of the time liberal democrats) want to blame everyone for the crime of one person. THIS IS A REPUBLIC and no one should have their rights taken from them! I've got a gun and I've never killed anyone, a shocker, I KNOW! But if someone breaks into my house to cause me harm, they WILL get shot if verbal warnings do not suffice.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012, 3:17:54 PM PST
An armed society is a polite society!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012, 3:20:10 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012, 3:27:48 PM PST
R. Smith says:
No. I actually did look it up. The US has the most guns per capita and the highest crime rate among the industrialized world. We also have the highest incarceration rates in the world. So, no.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012, 3:34:49 PM PST
A.J. says:
I think we need to ban video games, movies, music, paintball, laser tag, pellet guns, turtles, donkeys, trees, Ray Bans, and marmalade. All of these things cause children to act violently.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012, 3:48:07 PM PST
Jane Doe says:
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Posted on Dec 18, 2012, 3:48:07 PM PST
Chicago and Washington DC have the highest gun violence rates. They also have the strictest gun owernership regulations.
How's that working out for them?

The states' concealed carry policies are "Shall Issue", "May Issue" and "No Issue". Guess who has a 20% higher gun violence rate?
That's right, the states that DON'T automatically grant permits have the HIGHER rate.

States with the least restrictions to gun ownership and carry rights also have the lowest percentage of rapes, break-ins, muggings, etc, etc.

Makes perfect sense to restrict gun rights further, doesn't it?

Posted on Dec 18, 2012, 3:50:45 PM PST
W. Boyd says:
Cars kill more people than guns do. When are going to ban cars?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012, 3:51:17 PM PST
Teoftx says:
No. I actually did look it up. The US has the most guns per capita and the highest crime rate among the industrialized world. We also have the highest incarceration rates in the world. So, no.

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Yet no source provided because the statistics I have published by the CDC say that that you are wrong. Mexico for one has extremely strict gun control laws but far more gun violence than the USA. Bans have not worked for them. They have not worked for drugs. They did not work for alcohol. I had someone try to break in my house and it took the police ten minutes to arrive from less than two miles away. I was armed and only had to chamber a round to get the intruders to go away. My husband was working that night and I was alone with my children. Is that something that you want to take away from me? You do realize that most handguns shoot just as fast and their bullets are heavier and do more damage than your average "assault" rifle, right?

Posted on Dec 18, 2012, 5:11:11 PM PST
shopaholic says:
if you ban guns from the responsible people they will abide by it. the bad people will still have guns. i do not know where they get them but the people who shoot other people will still have them and they will not be registered to them. we live in a country where if they would make an example of one of the people that has killed others i think then maybe the crazys would stop. i mean not prison but put them on tv and shoot them like they shot the other people.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012, 5:16:19 PM PST
"i mean not prison but put them on tv and shoot them like they shot the other people..."

Certainly seems like a civilized, well-reasoned response. A lifetime member, I suppose??

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012, 5:20:20 PM PST
😇 Trouble says:
You can argue all you want. They are semi automatic guns.

You want a semi automatic weapon? You like lead in your venison?

Or maybe you're a turkey?

Posted on Dec 18, 2012, 5:27:09 PM PST
B. Perry says:
What is not shocking at all is a law-abiding gun owner (the mom) finds herself a victim of gun violence, and allows her weapons to fall into the hands of a bad guy. As opposed to being some sort of hero w/ her firearms. Situation normal, and sad.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012, 5:29:51 PM PST
"What is not shocking at all is a law-abiding gun owner (the mom) ... "

Well, she could have used the money she used to buy all the guns on some help for her troubled son...

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Posted on Dec 18, 2012, 5:50:10 PM PST
aMiamiRN says:
We need stronger mental health awareness and treatment.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012, 5:50:33 PM PST
Fuzzy says:
So anyone that does not agree with you is a "nutjob". Interesting perspective.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012, 5:51:09 PM PST
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Posted on Dec 18, 2012, 6:13:38 PM PST
An assault rifle is a select fire weapon capable of fully automatic fire in a caliber between that of a pistol and rifle. The AR15 that the shooter in Newtown used looks like an assault rifle, but it is not. The M16 is the assault rifle that the gun resembles. In effect the rifle he used is no different than the Mini 14 ranch rifle that I, and many others, carry in our trucks while working on the farm. It is there to protect us from attack from 4 legged predators, though if the 2 legged kind shows up it will work there as well.

Banning a firearm due to the way it looks is asinine. It isn't any more or less dangerous due to exterior features. That would be no different than banning a knife because the handle is black rather than white. If we really want to protect our children the answer is to ensure that school have trained and armed security professionals, work harder to ensure that we identify those that need psychiatric help, and work on making our culture less violent.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012, 6:20:48 PM PST
R. Smith says:
I guess Mexico counts as the industrialized world...
I was comparing the US to countries like Canada and Europe. Yes, technically Colombia actually has the highest gun murder rate in the world.

Stricter gun laws aren't taking away your right to arms, which I do support. If you are truly a law abiding citizen you should have nothing to worry about when it comes to tougher background checks.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012, 6:31:44 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 11:23:36 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 20, 2012, 11:45:09 AM PST
pryan67 says:
how much tougher are you talking? Already there is a Federal background check

How do you feel about wiretaps on terrorist "suspects"? The Patriot Act's provisions? What about detaining people without charging them?

After all, if you are truly a law abiding citizen, you should have nothing to worry about

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 11:28:41 AM PST
😇 Trouble says:
And YET, the children attacked in China, all SURVIVED. You are completely wrong.

"What was supposed to be another day of learning at an elementary school in central China instead turned to one of terror, as a man slashed 22 children and one adult with a knife.

"The injuries were gruesome, and reportedly include cut-off fingers and ears, but this
story had a different outcome from the massacre 8,000 miles away in Newtown, Conn.

"Everyone survived.

"Private ownership of firearms is banned in China, making gun crimes rare in the country, according to the Chinese government's official English language website. Pistols and revolvers are permitted for hunting, and only with permission.

"Instead, knives have become the weapon of choice in China. While the United States combats gun violence, China has dealt with a spate of knife attacks in which the victims, while scarred, often survive.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/22-kids-slashed-in-china-elementary-school-knife-attack/

Posted on Dec 20, 2012, 11:31:24 AM PST
The term "Assault Rifle" is a direct English translation of "Sturmgewehr", the name Adolf Hitler gave to the weapon developed by Germany during WWII that was a hybrid between a "machine pistol" and a full "rifle". The name was personally chosen by Hitler for its propaganda value.
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