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Springsteen Or Dylan


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Posted on Jul 5, 2010, 6:23:52 AM PDT
Gino says:
"the ghost of electricity howls in the bones of her face..." - visions of johanna- bob dylan

Posted on Jul 15, 2010, 1:30:40 PM PDT
vivazappa says:
The Boss!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 15, 2010, 2:28:12 PM PDT
Gino, never heard that song.. that's a great line, though.
Here's a counter ghost line
"the highway is alive tonight, nobody's kiddin nobody 'bout where it goes. Sittin down here by the campfire light, waitin' on the ghost of Tom Joad" - The Ghost of Tom Joad

Posted on Jul 20, 2010, 1:03:41 PM PDT
Gino says:
b wichert, the line about the ghost of electricity is from visions of johanna, album is blonde on blonde. released on columbia, 1966.

Posted on Jul 25, 2010, 2:14:20 PM PDT
the boss

Posted on Jul 25, 2010, 7:53:19 PM PDT
Sangderuc says:
Our preferences for given musicians are subjective and neither right nor wrong. As a musical innovator and influence on songwriters, performers and producers, Dylan's stature is beyond comparison to anyone like Springsteen. He was the catalyst who raised the bar in our expectations for song lyrics, simultaneously torpedoed the folk music revival and inspired the genre of folk rock, pushed icons like the Beatles and Jimi Hendrix to up their game, and changed the dominant model in which songwriters mainly composed and performers mainly performed: popular musicians who perform their own songs has been the norm ever since. In 1965, Like a Rolling Stone hit the music world like a bomb and nothing has been the same ever since. Read Greil Marcus' book Like a Rolling Stone for more...

Posted on Jul 25, 2010, 9:15:17 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 25, 2010, 9:21:56 PM PDT
Bob Bykowski says:
Dylan obviously has the influence factor and is unquestionably a great songwriter. And all of his '60's albums are classics, as are the live 'Before the Flood', 'Blood on the Tracks' and his last three studio masterpieces ('Time Out of Mind', 'Love and Theft' and 'Modern Times'). BUT...he has a few things working against him in the comparison. Which are:

1) while Dylan's released many more albums than Bruce, he also had a twenty year bad stretch of material from 1977 until 1997. Bruce has been remarkably consistent;

2) I've heard a lot of both artists' bootlegs. Dylan, for as much touring as he does, gives roughly four mediocre-to-downright crappy live shows for every great one. He's only been consistently great live when he's had the Band backing him, or on the Rolling Thunder Revue back in the mid-'70's. Bruce & the E Street Band, on the other hand, are the kings live. They take you on a trip of emotions, from heartache to hope to sheer joy, and you are drained but feeling hopeful and loving life after his performances;

3) Dylan's voice was never good, but now it's worse than it's ever been. He sounds like he's gargled razor blades mixed with Jack Daniels. His writing still shows remarkable strength and perception. But his vocals have reached a point now where they're almost unlistenable. Bruce may not have a technically great voice, but his singing oozes passion, sincerity, and determination.

That's my take on it anyway. But I guess I've covered these opinions already. I just feel that Bruce gets unfairly knocked by some because he's not a joint-smoking reminder of the Hippie era. He is a blue-collar guy. But a remarkably intelligent, compassionate and literate one.

Posted on Jul 29, 2010, 3:33:50 PM PDT
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vivazappa says:
Brad:

Yeah but did Dylan ever slide halfway across the stage on his knees and then kiss "the big man" right on the mouth?
I think not...that makes Bruuuuce the winner...case closed!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 2, 2010, 5:16:58 PM PDT
I. Wazdere says:
"Tweeter and the Monkey Man"

Posted on Aug 7, 2010, 8:36:44 AM PDT
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Posted on Aug 7, 2010, 10:31:43 PM PDT
I love Dylan's voice ... I don't understand why people keep referring to it as intolerable. It's not a "pretty" voice, but it's perfect for his songs.

Posted on Aug 10, 2010, 1:17:13 PM PDT
Marybee says:
This has to be a trick question.... undoubtedly Bob Dylan. Perhaps not the best in the vocals dept, but his voice matched well with his songs. In songwriting ability it isn't even close......Bob is out of his league...

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 10, 2010, 2:15:58 PM PDT
Your post is laughable, Springsteen is a hack who peaked our creatively in the 70's. We
know abotu Dylan's vocal limitations, but Bruce's voice is simply getting worse. That
blue collar Jersey crap is old and tired. Springsteen couldn't carry Zimmerman's jock.

Posted on Aug 11, 2010, 9:54:57 AM PDT
vivazappa says:
But Zimmy doesn't KISS the "Big Man"...

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 11, 2010, 10:05:04 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 11, 2010, 10:13:45 AM PDT
Bob Bykowski says:
Mark S.,

Bruce's material isn't simply "blue collar Jersey crap", as you refer to it. He writes songs for those who are unlucky in life but strive to rise above it all.

I like Dylan A LOT, but I gotta be honest. He had a twenty year stretch of crap following 'Desire' until he put out 'Time Out of Mind' in 1997. And without the Band backing him, he sucks live with the sole exception of the Rolling Thunder Revue tour. Live is where Bruce really slays him. Bob's work in the '60's was classic as was 'Blood on the Tracks' in the '70's. And his last three albums have been great. But he had a longer stretch of poor work than would be imaginable with Bruce. Maybe not every Bruce album is a classic, but almost every one has been at least good. That's much more than you can say with Zimmerman.

In any case, no matter who you prefer, they still rank as the two greatest songwriters American rock has ever produced.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 11, 2010, 10:22:21 AM PDT
K. Carter says:
Robert -

I agree with your views on Springsteen, and most of what you've said about Dylan. I would, however, say that "Street-Legal", "Slow Train Coming", "Infidels", and "Oh Mercy" are far from being "crap". Granted, he did release a few turkeys in that time stretch, but those four (especially "Legal") are some of my favorite Dylan albums. And, in typical Dylan fashion, none are even remotely alike...

Posted on Aug 12, 2010, 8:50:50 AM PDT
K. Neubauer says:
The Boss By Far....SPRINGSTEEN WINS!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 12, 2010, 8:52:09 AM PDT
K. Neubauer says:
Agreed! The Boss Hands Down

Posted on Aug 12, 2010, 12:57:41 PM PDT
Drew Hunkins says:
I go with Springsteen. Though Dylan of course had loads of talent.

If you listen to Springsteen's early 1970s album 'The Wild, the Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle' it's absolutely spectacular. The last three songs are some of the best rock music ever recorded.

Posted on Aug 12, 2010, 1:20:26 PM PDT
Alicia says:
Springsteen is better. 'Born in the USA' for the win!

Posted on Aug 12, 2010, 1:45:56 PM PDT
BillK 8 says:
Springsteen is a wannabe.

Posted on Aug 12, 2010, 2:11:20 PM PDT
Bruce ain't fit to shine Bob's shoes, for God's sake. PUHLEEZE!!

Posted on Aug 12, 2010, 2:28:14 PM PDT
vivazappa says:
If we added Eddie Money to the choices would anybody put Bruuuce in 3rd...

Posted on Aug 12, 2010, 2:31:47 PM PDT
Yes, I would actually rather listen to early Eddie than any Bruce. Sorry, he just ain't my thing.

Posted on May 12, 2012, 2:45:13 PM PDT
D. Mok says:
Bruce Springsteen. Bob Dylan was a far greater poet...but they're not in poetry. They're in music. And Bob Dylan has one of the most boring sounds in rock music, utterly resistant to change, evolution, arrangements, and richness. Only his albums with outsider collaborators (eg. The Band, Mark Knopfler, Daniel Lanois) are worth anything sonically and emotionally.
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