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The Agape Love and Sacrifice of Jesus vs. Atheism. Atheism is about Not Believing in a Higher Love. Not having hope for the future. It's about being nihilistic. Atheists believes Something came from Nothing. Atheists are Destructive. Wonderful?


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Initial post: Nov 2, 2012, 2:42:51 AM PDT
DRM says:
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Posted on Nov 2, 2012, 2:44:27 AM PDT
DRM says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2012, 3:41:18 AM PDT
witchie+ says:
DRM: "Look at how Christianity led to progress in education, medical care, and Social Services."

Christianity can also stand in the way of education, medical care, and social services. Other religions have also contributed to the advancement of societies as well as atheists.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2012, 4:17:15 AM PDT
G. Heron says:
DRM

"Atheists believes Something came from Nothing"

Theists use god to explain everything and then say god requires no explanation.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2012, 4:20:42 AM PDT
G. Heron says:
DRM

Atheism is about taking the universe as it is and not adding bits to make ourselves feel good. You know the sort of thing:

Scared of death, invent heaven,
Some one did you wrong and got away with it, invent hell.
Feeling lonely invent an invisible friend.

Posted on Nov 2, 2012, 5:44:08 AM PDT
Does this post have anything original to say? We have heard these arguments before? Same old same old

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2012, 6:18:45 AM PDT
G. Heron says:
Philip J Allen

It is a poor argument, It basically says it would be nicer if there was a god looking after us and a heaven awaiting us after death, therefore there is.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2012, 6:20:30 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2012, 6:46:21 AM PDT
G. Heron says:
Philip J Allen

It is a poor argument, It basically says it would be nicer if there was a god looking after us and a heaven awaiting us after death, therefore there is.

PJA Its a non argument GH. It basically displays the bias in an accepted narrow view. I have yet to hear anybody detail or define what "higher love " means. Love when you're stoned? Somebody getting a bit of afternoon copulation on the next floor of your apartment building?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2012, 7:16:35 AM PDT
Atheists just don't believe in a god.
Some of my atheist friends are the most caring, concerned, compassionate people I know.
On the other hand, people who persist in continually lumping an entire group of people under one umbrella and then saying they're all without hope and love - people who claim they know what's going on inside someone else's head and heart - those kind of people do not seem very loving or kind to me.

The Bible's pretty clear about that kind of behavior: "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour." - Exodus 20

"Judge not, that ye be not judged." - Matthew 7

"And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not." - I Timothy 5

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2012, 8:23:44 AM PDT
Ambulocetus says:
"In the 1845 'Letter to an English Abolitionist,' James Henry Hammond-a U.S. representative, a U.S. senator, and South Carolina governor-offered standard Bible-based defenses of slavery. He blamed abolitionism on:
'a transcendental religion . . . a religion too pure and elevated for the Bible; which seeks to erect among men a higher standard of morals than the Almighty has revealed, or our Saviour preached; and which is probably destined to do more to impede the extension of God's kingdom on earth than all the infidels who have ever lived. Error is error.'

"Hammond concluded:

'And to sum up all, if pleasure is correctly defined to be the absence of pain-which, so far as the great body of mankind is concerned, is undoubtedly its true definition-I believe our slaves are the happiest three millions of human beings on whom the sun shines. Into their Eden is coming Satan in the disguise of an abolitionist.'"
http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/aah/sierichs_13_3.htm

And then there's Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States of America, who said that slavery "was established by decree of Almighty God... it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis to Revelation... it has existed in all ages, has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts."
http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/09/the-confederacy-a-christian-theocracy.html

And then there's the whole decades-long, continent-spanning child-sex-abuse scandal enveloping the Catholic Church, all the way up to "pontifical secret" himself:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/24/children.childprotection
http://ncronline.org/news/accountability/credibility-gap-pope-needs-answer-questions

Yeah, you can keep your "higher love." I was never much of a Steve Winwood fan, anyway.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2012, 9:02:19 AM PDT
Doesn't
Rationalize
Much:

It's evidence enough that you don't have a clue when you, first and foremost, openly display your simple-minded stereotyping of all atheists.

You then cement your obvious ignorance by stating things that are simply untrue; e.g., all atheists "are nihilistic," "have no hope for the future," "believe something came from nothing," and "are destructive."

Thoughtful people have presented rational arguments regarding atheists and atheism.

You're not one of them- you just flail away at the keyboard.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2012, 12:37:53 PM PDT
Lufer says:
The desire to erect and flog strawmen in lieu of attacking a position as it truly is says a lot about the merits of your own position.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2012, 1:25:50 PM PDT
Astrocat says:
Wholly stereotypical statement and without any value or validity whatsoever.

Posted on Nov 2, 2012, 5:34:09 PM PDT
B-Jak says:
Seriously, DRM. What IS your point on these rather imbecilic rants of yours? Do you actually think you're going to change anyone here? Do you actually feel better with your put downs? Did somebody hypnotize you into making a fool of yourself at every opportunity? I'd really like to know.

Posted on Nov 5, 2012, 5:07:59 AM PST
Brian Curtis says:
Still raving, still irrelevant. Utterly predictable behavior from

Doesn't
Really
Matter.

Posted on May 6, 2016, 4:28:00 PM PDT
DRM says:
Hello.

Posted on May 7, 2016, 10:41:53 AM PDT
Nope.

Theists claim deities exist.

Atheists aren't buying it.

Nothing more.
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