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Initial post: Sep 8, 2012, 8:21:58 PM PDT
Patricia says:
Book possibly early 80s. Setting was in a castle type of building. The H was the king or head of the castle. The h was a servant. I remember the H did not like his brothers servant girlfriend so he pulled her into his room and checked that she was a virgin, this girl then hanged herself in the castle stairway. His brother was mad. The h was accused of stealing jewelry. She denied it. The H said she could admit that she stole the jewelry or would receive 15 lashes of the whip. She refused. She was taken out into the whipping area and I remember the man who would administer the lashes didn't want to but she told him it was ok. The H turns away and cant watch after so many. Then i think he got to 11 and the lasher refused to give anymore. The h is taken to the houses outside the castle and is extremely sick and almost dies. She ends up meeting the H again, I think he says he is sorry for the lashes.
I think I can't forget the book because of the 15 lashes of the whip. I would like to read it again to see if it is anything like I remember it. If you can help I would appreciate it. Thanks

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 9, 2012, 8:43:44 AM PDT
JennyG. says:

Posted on Sep 15, 2012, 10:09:44 AM PDT
JennyG. says:

Posted on Sep 16, 2012, 8:27:07 PM PDT
belen47 says:

Posted on Sep 25, 2012, 11:26:42 AM PDT
JennyG. says:

Posted on Sep 25, 2012, 11:34:16 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 25, 2012, 11:34:57 AM PDT
A. M. Ponzo says:
Sounds awful. Was there anything good about the relationship between H and h? Did she end up with "H' or with his brother? :)

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 25, 2012, 5:22:37 PM PDT
Patricia says:
She ended up with the H. I can't remember what happened with the brother, just remember he blamed the H for his girlfriends suicide.

Posted on Oct 6, 2012, 12:44:34 PM PDT
JennyG. says:

Posted on Oct 6, 2012, 3:45:39 PM PDT
Hello says:

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 7, 2012, 1:57:35 AM PDT
JennyG. says:
Is this a medieval romance? Do you remember anything else that might help?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 7, 2012, 3:23:42 PM PDT
Patricia says:
I believe it was medieval. Sorry cant remember anything else.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 8, 2012, 7:55:09 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 8, 2012, 8:01:20 AM PDT
JennyG. says:
Ok, here are some suggestions from other readers:

Heroine is whipped in one of these books by Josie Litton:

2 books in 1: Dream of Me and Believe in Me or Come Back to Me by Josie Litton

Heroine is also whipped in:

The Conqueror by Brenda Joyce
Hearts Aflame by Johanna Lindsey

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 8, 2012, 7:58:27 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 8, 2012, 8:00:58 AM PDT
JennyG. says:
Julz04 on goodreads is sure the book you are looking for is

This Other Eden by Marilyn Harris

Set on the North Devon coast of England and in fashionable London during the period of the French Revolution, THE OTHER EDEN is the first novel to tell the saga of the great Eden family, the romantic, intensely dramatic events when the Edens and Lockes made their fateful union.

The memory of her torment would haunt Marianne Locke for years. At the command of Lord Thomas Eden, she had suffered the agony and humiliation of a public lashing for spurning his lustful advances. Sent to London to be with her sister Jane to regain her health and spirit, Marianne finds a still stormier trial awaits her. For Jane's heart bears no love for Marianne, only a bitter envy of the captivating girl whose beauty and style eclipse her own. And Lord Eden's arrival in London is the perfect opportunity for Jane's malevolence. Still struck by Marianne's charms, Lord Eden now has an ally in obtaining Marianne for his pleasure.

THIS OTHER EDEN is a historical romance written with great distinction, framed by the French Revolution, by Lord Eden's dangerous smuggling ring, two marriage ceremonies, the birth of a legitimate and an illegitimate heir. It is the tumultuous union of Thomas and Marianne that begins the lineage of the Lockes and the Edens. It is a lineage destined to produce strong individuals who will make their mark on history.

Posted on Oct 8, 2012, 8:27:36 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 8, 2012, 8:28:51 AM PDT
Guess Who says:
Yep, it's Josie Litton's Dream of Me. A great viking romance.
2 books in 1: Dream of Me and Believe in Me

Posted on Oct 8, 2012, 2:11:46 PM PDT
Patricia says:
No those aren't it. Sorry. Thanks everyone for looking. I don't remember it being a viking book. He was the king but I can't remember what era the book was from. I may have to forget this one. Thanks everyone.

Posted on Oct 8, 2012, 3:27:07 PM PDT
Guess Who says:
Here the excerpt from DREAM OF ME.
Wolf took a long breath, heedless of the pain that stabbed through him. He looked into the grizzled face
of the man he was about to trust as he had never trusted anyone. Olaf's eyes were filled with
understanding and compassion.

Slowly, not taking his gaze from him, Wolf gestured for the whip.

thick gray beard. He stood some twenty paces from the post, the long black snake of the whip uncoiled
in his hand. The crowd was silent. No one moved or made so much as a murmur.

Cymbra braced herself as best she could. Above all, she did not want to appear a coward, no matter
how terrified she felt. Pride was involved but so too was the need to spare Wolf as much as she possibly

Bile rose in the back of her throat. She said a final prayer that it would be over soon and squeezed her
eyes shut.

Olaf raised his arm. Still-powerful muscles flexed. Face taut with concentration, he flicked the whip
through the air. It fell inches short of Cymbra's back. A ripple ran through the crowd, not of
disappointment or anger but rather of sympathy, as though man and woman alike understood his

He wiped his brow, inhaled deeply, and took a measured step forward. Again the whip darted. This
time the very tip of it touched Cymbra's back. She jerked more in surprise than pain. Indeed, she was
startled by how very little she felt. Again, Olaf raised his arm. Again the whip touched her but only barely.

Incredibly, insanely, the thought occurred to her that at this rate her punishment would take all night.

"Enough," Wolf said, his voice low and guttural, wrenched from the very depths of his being.

Olaf gave a shuddering sigh of relief that was picked up by the crowd and let his arm fall.

Posted on Oct 8, 2012, 4:58:36 PM PDT
I was thinking it was Secret Fire by Johanna Lindsay, but the part about the servant girl suicide isn't in that book and I'm assuming the book is set in England (or Wales or Scotland) right?

What about The Wolf and the Dove by Woodiwiss?

Posted on Oct 8, 2012, 7:19:09 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 8, 2012, 7:21:03 PM PDT
Patricia says:
It isn't dream of me. The H was up in the castle window. The h really was lashed til she passed out about 11 lashes. When she was strapped to the pole the guy had to tear her dress down the back and she was ashamed. The h also had long hair and after a few lashes some of it came down the whip pulled her hair so he had to stop and tuck her hair. After she passed out the guy giving the lashes looked at the window with disgust and threw the whip down and said he was through. I believe the audience was quiet after the first few lashes.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2012, 9:57:26 AM PDT
JennyG. says:
Do you remember anything else about the book that might help? More info about the plot, brother, hero or heroine? How about the cover?

I would really like this to be found.


In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2012, 11:36:27 AM PDT
JennyG. says:
tmh1 says: Ok question, in this book was it the hero's previous mistress that took the jewellry and hid it in her room so she would be punished, while the hero was away from the castle. Thinking the hero would leave the heroine and come back to her.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2012, 11:40:22 AM PDT
JennyG. says:
Julz04 says: Here are some passages from that scene fromThis Other Eden by Marilyn Harris. It might trigger a memory, eh?

"Ragland watched with the others as she made the long walk, knowing with them that he was witnessing something unusual. He saw her approach the whipping oak as though it were little more than a Maypole and this was the most incredible of, all-approach Jack Spade with a small white extended hand.

She spoke, her voice light as the breeze though carrying effortlessly in the enclosed courtyard. "Good morning, Jack. I hope you are well."

Under the duress of the moment, Ragland saw the large, greatly feared man turn away and throw his whip to the ground.

Then Spade must have seen something at the window of the upper bedchamber, for within the moment Ragland saw him straighten himself, retrieve his whip, and go about his business for which he was fed, clothed, and housed. ...

...Further, she knew that Jack Spade would feel badly about tearing her dress and baring her back, and she comforted him with a whispered, "It's all right. Do it quickly, a clean tear that can be mended." He obliged, as she knew he would, cursing beneath his breath, sniffing as though he were suffering a cold.

...What she then said was merely the shortest way to a quick dismissal. "I forgive you. Jack." The big man groaned as though he were the one tied to the oak, and within the instant she heard him step back, heard the whip whistle upward into the air.

Then, number one...

...On the count of eight the whip caught in her long trailing hair and jerked her head further backward, and for a moment she was forced to stare straight upward into heaven...

...Safe in his upper bedchamber, in the confinement of a hot white nightshirt, Thomas Eden stood at the window and endured number five. Then he turned quickly away in search of brandy. Damn her! Damn the girl!

...Thomas looked more closely at the pinned, white, bleeding back. His eyes grew fearful at the sight of what he had done. Perhaps he had gone too far. He might in time have confirmed her loyalty, wooed and won her, and led her skillfully to his bed.

Now she would be ruined for all time, her back scarred, her virginity worse than useless. Even men who had been publicly whipped acquired an unrecorded look, as though they were being tried by the continuous blows of an unseen adversary. If they survived, they wore an unwilling set of features, they became old without reward, generally dying young.

Then what would it do to her? In a sudden agony he again felt compelled to turn away. Remorse invaded him. His eyes scanned the scene below him as he saw that it was blessedly over. Jack Spade dragged his whip through the air for the last time, then hurled it angrily into space and ran off down the narrow wind which led to the Servants' Hall. Thomas knew he would be drunk within the hour..."

Posted on Oct 9, 2012, 4:51:46 PM PDT
Patricia says:
This passage sounds like it. I'm going to have to buy this book to see. The earlier summary of This Other Eden did not sound correct.
The only part that doesn't sound right is the comments that the H thinks. During the whipping I remember we were hearing her thoughts, how she didn't know if she could stand it, etc.
Someone did hide the jewelry but I thought it was another servant. I can't remember why. Sorry.

Posted on Oct 9, 2012, 4:59:28 PM PDT
Patricia says:
I purchased the book will get it Thursday. Will let you know if this is the book.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2012, 5:21:36 PM PDT
@Book addict

Ok, this is definitely Hearts Aflame (Viking Haardrad Family Book 2) by Johannan Lindsey

The h is a Norse woman, Kristen, who stowed away on her brother, Selig's, ship because he and his friends were going 'Viking. When they reach Sussex (I think) and go ashore to raid a monestary (spell?) Royce's (the H) soliders ambush them.

Kristen hears the fighting and grabs her sword and comes to the battle late. She sees a man (Royce's cousin, can't remember the name) stab Selig. She thinks Selig is dead.

Kristen and the rest of the Vikings are captured and Royce says he is going to kill them. Several years back his fiancee was killed by Vikings. But the cousin (who killed Selig) says put them to work on the protective wall they are building around the keep.

Kristen wraps her hair and pretends to be a boy but the other Vikings forget and they protect her. It causes a scuffle and Royce orders "the boy" whipped. They tie her to the post and proceed. Her binding cloth for her bosom falls out of her tunic (because it has been cut away from her).

Royce was at the window looking out when the scuffle happened and he couldn't get down there fast enough to stop one of the Vikings from whacking the guard who was after Kristen.

This is a series called the Haardrad Family.
Book 1 is Kristen's mom and dad (Brianna and Garrick)
Fires of Winter (Viking Haardrad Family Book 1)

Book 2 is Kristen and Royce
Book 3 is Selig and Erika
Surrender My Love (Viking Haardrad Family Book 3)

Posted on Oct 9, 2012, 5:46:05 PM PDT
Patricia says:
It isn't hearts aflame. She never dressed as a boy. Thanks though.
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