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Posted on Jun 1, 2011, 6:20:16 PM PDT
Ophelia says:
Book Lover:
Definitely chick lit. The author leaves the HEA hanging. One of the discussion questions is - do you think h and H will stay together and try to make the marriage work?
H leaves h (his wife) and is in Europe sleeping with the OW when he realizes how selfish OW is. He sees a family together and thinks "I want that" but he wants it with his wife. So he starts emailing her that he misses her and is coming home. She has sold their home and tells him not to go there. Then feels bad and tells him he can crash with her temporarily. He shows up starts crying and says "so this is where we live." The h cries too. He hugs her. End of book. I guess it's up to the reader to write the ending they want.
Sorry, got a bit long-winded :)

Posted on Jun 1, 2011, 6:38:06 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 1, 2011, 6:44:11 PM PDT
hiker says:
Knock Me for a Loop is a book were the h walks in the H hotel room and finds a women in his bed... she breaks up with him. He denies cheating... no angst.. just cute story so far...
this is not for the the list but for people who like a story about a falsely accused cheater and a happy ending

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 1, 2011, 8:47:13 PM PDT
SuzieBags says:
hiker,
I hated that book, the h was a nag (imo) and wouldn't even listen to the H explain that this random groupie chick got in his room while he was in the shower. Couldn't stand her at all, so I quit reading making up my own hea that the H moved on and found someone else.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2011, 7:20:09 AM PDT
hiker says:
wow.. thats what i liked about the h she just didn't lay down and take whatever was dished out.... she did go a little overboard with her revenage. i think that made her interesting..lol.i also think the H not doing anything about her trashing his car and stealing his dog made him look like he was guilty..... but i think with the H past of sleeping with alot of women and the fact that the percentage of sport stars that cheat is high... it did look pretty bad on the H.. how shocking to walk in a hotel room and find a women in the bed ...
i think most people would be competely destroyed and have doubts..

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2011, 7:32:57 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 2, 2011, 7:33:55 AM PDT
So she acts like a untrusting psycho (yeah stealing his dog and trashing his car qualifies) and because he doesn't have her arrested it makes him look guilty? Why does he have to take what she dishes out? Does she at least get on her hands and knees and beg for forgiveness?

Seriously, if you can't believe or trust your partner no matter what they tell you then walk away but projecting your own neuroses on someone else and then committing criminal acts isn't anything someone else should have to put up with. If she didn't like the high odds of a sports star cheating and is predisposed to believing he'll cheat then she shouldn't have got involved in the first place.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2011, 7:44:48 AM PDT
hiker says:
i still like the book... i don't see any difference in what Grace did and how unforgiving she was as compared to how some of these H we read about barely say didn't mean to do that when they do horrible things to these h.. over a misunderstanding... its a book in real life those acts are criminal... in a book its funny..jmo.. like a fantasy we all have of doing to cheating boyfriends/husbands...

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2011, 8:36:41 AM PDT
But when the heroes do rotten things most are calls @ssh@les and jerks and there are complaints all the time that they don't deserve a HEA and don't grovel enough. Rarely is that behavior seen as reasonable or cute.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2011, 8:53:54 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 2, 2011, 9:20:39 AM PDT
hiker says:
i know but there are still a percentage of people who read those books and still like the H... i just saw Grace lashing out because she was hurt... (maybe a little crazy... which she admitts to herself) but wasn't unlikable to me.. we all know people who have alot of pride... does that make them horrible.. ? she did come to take care of him when he needed her... just like some of the H (e.g. some enchanted season) people feel this hero gave his i'm sorry thru his actions... and liked him..
also i know door mat women and i don't like them at all... i know if i find a person in my partners hotel room bed... i'm thinking there is an affair...

i don't know why i liked this book and Grace i just did

Posted on Jun 2, 2011, 2:15:54 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 3, 2011, 3:56:49 AM PDT
I just finished Chronicles of a Midlife Crisis by Robyn Harding and I loved it. I though it was chick lit, but Books&Wine said that it was more women's fiction because of the ages of the H - 43 and h - 40. The chapters go back and forth between Lucy and Trent so we are getting H's point of view (which we have talked about lack of that before). H leaves h and 15yo daughter to "find himself", but has wanted a younger co-worker for a year. Of course, they hook up fast and the h finds out. I loved the h. She is spunky and doesn't take any crap, she is NOT a doormat. She is fast with her come backs and they are hilarious. The H's thoughts are funny too. I finished this book in a day and I work full-time, couldn't put it down.

H's OW ends up being psycho, think Fatal Attraction, and of course he ends up wanting to come home. There is the double standard when he finds out that she has "sorta" been seeing a gorgeous 27yo heart throb. She sleeps with H a couple of times at the end, but doesn't let him come home. Left me thinking that maybe she will eventually and then again, maybe not.

I highly recommend!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2011, 9:09:19 PM PDT
Books&Wine says:
Book Lover #1

I posted on this book a couple weeks ago and also recommended it.
I think we like a lot of the same books. :)

I called it woman's fiction because of the ages of the h/H, and the issues with the daughter, but the style is somewhat chick lit.
I really liked Lucy's biting humor and snarky comments to and about her philandering husband, and I loved the names she called the other woman, including to her face.
I thought the book had some depth and angst along with the humor.

Posted on Jun 2, 2011, 9:17:46 PM PDT
M. Dove says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2011, 4:05:30 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 3, 2011, 4:06:41 AM PDT
Books&Wine:

I edited my post, sorry I called you Ophelia. I agree we like the same books. I purchased this book because of your post and now I better understand the difference between chick lit and women's fiction, thanks! The names she called the OW were great! The humor, along with the angst, kept the book from being depressing.

EDT: I just ordered This is Where We Live, sounds similar. Ophelia posted on this one.

Posted on Jun 3, 2011, 5:39:34 AM PDT
TrishaLouise says:
M.Dove: After reading the blurb on that book, I DO NOT think it belongs in this thread. Please don't come on this form to push your own book unless it fits in with the "Subject" asked for.

Posted on Jun 3, 2011, 8:47:46 PM PDT
Books&Wine says:
Book Lover #1
I just figured Ophelia had posted about the book, also, and I'd missed it. :)
I'm really glad you liked it if you bought it on my recommendation. I think it probaably straddles the line between woman's fiction and chic lit.

I ordered This Is Where We Live from the library. Let us know what you think. It will take a while for the book to come in for me.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2011, 6:25:49 AM PDT
I ordered hard back of This Is Where We Live rather than Kindle (book $4.00, Kindle $11.99). That just really gets to me, but oh well another book for the home library.

Posted on Jun 8, 2011, 6:25:31 AM PDT
Bernadette says:
Lone-Star Lawman by Kay David. 1998. Two old lovers meet up after being split apart 18 years earlier. Each w/ a secret: he was unfaithful and she was pregnant. They confess to each other. All this is going on as they investigate a new murder that resembles an old murder.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2011, 6:43:29 AM PDT
mnix says:
B. Sabatini,
Can you give spoil us on it?

Posted on Jun 8, 2011, 7:50:05 AM PDT
Bernadette says:
Ok, the h returns to her hometown after being away for 18 years. She left at 18 when her boyfriend, the H, was accused of rape and murder. She couldn't give him an alibi and was suspicious of him as he smelled of beer and the OW's perfume when he finally met up with the h. She was confused by his behavior and he was hurt by her abandonment. He was exonerated but the h's brother forced her to leave because she was pregnant w/ the H's baby. She miscarried and never told the H.
Fast forward 18 years: the H is Police chief of the small town, the h is a consultant on the case. A recent murder of a young woman is similar to the murder in the past the H was accused of. While investigating the cases, the two reconnect and the H confesses that all those years ago when he was on his way to meet the h, the OW stopped him on the road. She was drunk and practically attacked him. He got mad, then they got busy... "He went crazy" was how he put it. He's repentant about being unfaithful and they have sex. She doesn't want to tell him she was pregnant and never told him so she pushes him away. They solve the murder--- it was her dastardly brother. They talk and resolve their differences.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2011, 8:14:33 AM PDT
mnix says:
Thanks B. ! I appreciate the spoilers. Did you like the book?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 8, 2011, 8:17:08 AM PDT
Bernadette says:
Yes, I like Kay David's early works. It was a silhouette intimate moments book and the writing was good. Its in my keeper collection.

Posted on Jun 9, 2011, 1:22:17 PM PDT
boogenhagen says:
Re This Is Where We Live: A Novel (Random House Reader's Circle) by Janelle Brown. Technically the H does leave the h before he sleeps with his ex. The only thing kinda dubious is he kisses the ex but he does feel he has betrayed his wife. This book definitely falls into the chick lit category and my feeling on the subject is they won't work things out. Jeremy never seems to have any realization that for the whole book he feels like he wants more freedom and spontaneity but when he goes off with Aoki the old GF, he actually becomes the responsible one but he never realizes his so-called freedom with Aoki was always an illusion. What he subconsciously wants is to be the leader and relied upon one in any relationship but he wants to do it his way.

Claudia is the more driven of the pair and seems desperate for any sort of security which is symbolized by her determination to hang on to their overpriced damaged house no matter what. Claudia wants everything her way too and really comes across as incredibly controlling. I think the couple does change over the book, but they change in ways that don't complement each other and I am not sure why they married in the first place. It seems like there was a lot of trite realizations made by each character but no real insight on why they are the way they are and how to accommodate each other was ever made IMO.

By the end of the book it seems Claudia and Jeremy's position's have reversed. Claudia wants freedom and Jeremy wants security. I could only see this relationship limping along until Jeremy got bored or Claudia found more stimulation with someone else. Yes the couple sacrifices, but not for each other, only for their own ideals of what they want and even at the end, they never really define what they really do want. This was supposed to be 30something coming of age novel in the wake of the recent economic collapse and all it did was move everyone 180 degrees around but with no real uplifting insight or even a better marriage for the two.

The book is well written and the situations dramatic, but I had no real emotional satisfaction and I am glad I got this from the library.

Posted on Jun 9, 2011, 2:57:38 PM PDT
Deb says:
Could somebody please explain to me the difference between Romance and Chick-lit? I hear the two referred to and I'm confused!

Posted on Jun 9, 2011, 3:13:16 PM PDT
Reader says:
B. Sabatini:
The h sounds like she forgave the H awfully easily for his cheating. Sounds like a good read but I hate books that fix all the angst in a couple of pages. Was there any groveling involved?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2011, 4:02:38 PM PDT
This isnt the exact definition but in my opinion, Chick-lit isnt just about the romance between the h/H but more of the h coming into her own... Also chick-lit doesnt have to have a happy ending (Also I think Chick lit has older protagonists) and romance of course has to have the HEA ... These of course arent official or anything just my opinion or my take on the two.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2011, 4:17:48 PM PDT
Chick lit is very heroine centric. Not only isn't it primarily about any romantic relationship that ends in a HEA it doesn't even require the heroine to have any meaningful relationship. Chick lit is also usually differentiated from Woman's Fiction by being lighter and frothier in tone and often having less mature (not just in age) protagonists. The books also often have those candy colored or rather cartoonish covers.
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