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Initial post: Oct 3, 2012, 12:52:02 AM PDT
Dave Vicks says:
Is Heinleins novel Starship Troopers the most controversial Science-Fiction book of all time?

Posted on Oct 3, 2012, 1:17:49 AM PDT
Tom Rogers says:
Possibly I missed the ruckus.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2012, 1:40:48 AM PDT
JES says:
What is controversial about it?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2012, 1:45:04 AM PDT
No, that honor goes to "Brave New World." It's on most of the Banned Books lists.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2012, 6:49:04 AM PDT
Tom Rogers says:
True that. Though I suppose there are a couple different arenas where controversy can play out--"Brave New World" is universally controversial, while there are lesser venues, like the SF community itself, where there are big fights over finer doctrinal points.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2012, 7:28:24 AM PDT
K. R. says:
"Is Heinleins novel Starship Troopers the most controversial Science-Fiction book of all time?"

I would think that Farnham's Freehold would be considered Heinlein's most controversial book..

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 3, 2012, 7:55:45 AM PDT
W.T. Keeton says:
Heinlein had several controversial books. "Stranger in a Strange Land" was controversial and was banned from many libraries due to the sex and drug content, which was seen as endorsing the most extreme elements of the "hippy" lifestyle. That's not exactly what Heinlein was getting at, but it was banned nonetheless.

Posted on Oct 4, 2012, 2:52:08 AM PDT
it's only "controversial" to those whose views I'd consider "controversial"...

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 4, 2012, 4:13:41 AM PDT
K. R. says:
"it's only "controversial" to those whose views I'd consider "controversial"..."

Not sure which book "it" is.. But I do think there is a difference with Heinlein's book "Stranger in a Strange Land" being considered controversial by general public library readers (who probably never read any of his other work), and "Farnham's Freehold" - which was considered a bit extreme by some of the people who actually do read Heinlein's books.

Posted on Oct 4, 2012, 7:01:37 AM PDT
Dave Vicks says:
"C'mon you Apes you want to live forever."-HEINLEIN

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 4, 2012, 4:31:53 PM PDT
R. Wilde says:
"Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em! I'm a-burnin' 'em down!" - PFC Hughes

I never really understood the controversy over Starship Troopers. Other Heinlein books, some mentioned above, also were at the center of controversies.

For non-Heinlein books, Brave New World has already been mentioned. I'd also like to put Edward Bellamy's Looking Backward 2000-1887 up for consideration.

Posted on Oct 5, 2012, 2:59:26 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 5, 2012, 6:48:30 PM PDT
Green Meanie says:
Buenos Aires is the center of the universe in his novel.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 5, 2012, 4:28:03 PM PDT
R. Wilde says:
Which novel?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 5, 2012, 5:26:49 PM PDT
Starship Troopers.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 5, 2012, 5:44:00 PM PDT
R. Wilde says:
SPOILERS, IF ANYONE CARES ABOUT SPOILERS FOR A BOOK OVER 50 YEARS OLD

Buenos Aires was mentioned 6 times in the novel (I just did a search on my Kindle). It just happened to be the first city the Bugs attacked, while the main character's mother was vacationing there.

Hardly the center of the universe.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 5, 2012, 6:49:01 PM PDT
Green Meanie says:
Not in the movie.

Posted on Oct 5, 2012, 7:03:12 PM PDT
I think the controversy in Starship Troopers was do to a concept (that got considerably more play in the book than in the movie) the gist of which was that no one in the society could get their franchise (that is, become a fully-vested Citizen) until and unless they'd enlisted in the military to demonstrate their willingness to protect and/or die for society. Rico's father, in the book, was a full-on pacifist who wasn't concerned that he didn't have full Citizen's rights and who discouraged Rico from getting his.

The book was a lot more cerebral than the movie.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 5, 2012, 7:07:55 PM PDT
R. Wilde says:
The only thing the movie Doogie Howser, S.S., had in common with the novel Starship Troopers was a few names. If I recall correctly, the director didn't even read the book.

Posted on Oct 5, 2012, 7:14:18 PM PDT
@ R. Wilde:

Doesn't surprise me a bit. As movie adaptations go it was probably the most horrid thing I've ever witnessed.

Posted on Oct 5, 2012, 9:36:19 PM PDT
Dave Vicks says:
I heard in the Film they had coed showers.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 6, 2012, 4:07:42 PM PDT
Green Meanie says:
I not only heard but saw the scene. Nobody was getting a boner in the scene so it was no big deal for the actors.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 8, 2012, 8:13:33 PM PDT
In an interview I saw on a documentary he said something along the lines of he hated the book and wanted to parody it.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 11, 2012, 11:36:00 PM PDT
Rochrist says:
Not necessarily the military. There were alternate forms of civil service available.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 11, 2012, 11:37:05 PM PDT
Rochrist says:
I don't believe he actually even read the book. He had assistants do that. But then, this is the fella that brought you Showgirls.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 12, 2012, 5:00:06 PM PDT
R. Wilde says:
But did he at least go to watch girls dance topless for that?
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