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Creationism..................... can't science offer a credible alternative?


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In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 4:31:25 AM PDT
A customer says:
It's so cute watching creationists trying to think.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 5:48:59 AM PDT
John McClain says:
Hi Christopher!

Just to remind you, you still haven't answered that question. Here it is again incase you've forgotten what it was:

So basically, every sighting of a UFO, dragon, ghost, superman, sharks with lasers, or any other outrageous claim made by someone actually did happen because, after all, they observed it happening, right?

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 8:02:01 AM PDT
I believe it was Chateau Cana Beaujolais A.D. 28. An exceptional year.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 8:14:04 AM PDT
Gwaithmir says:
ElliotCB said: "It's so cute watching creationists trying to think."

>Check out "Evolution never happened - Here's why," in the Evolution and Intelligent Design Forums. The creationist Largo is quite a specimen. You'll just HAVE to see it for yourself.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 8:22:28 AM PDT
In short, "We don't have a full, complete explanation of how abiogenesis occurred at this moment... so God did it."

You could have just typed that sentence, and saved yourself and the rest of us a lot of time.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 8:44:34 AM PDT
Ddms says:
PJA wrote: "Science can't prove anything about the origins of life."

I'm not trying to split hairs here, and we're in general agreement, but check the literature. Science has proved a LOT about the origins of life. There are still gaps, of course, and it is still not known exactly what first enabled a cell to replicate itself. In fact, a great deal is known about the conditions needed for such an event to take place.

Posted on May 15, 2012, 9:04:59 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 9:23:30 AM PDT
A customer says:
No-one needs to prove Koonin wrong. His Virus-World model of cellular evolution may well be correct. What they need is someone to explain it using beer mats so that people like Haynes can get what he is actually saying.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1594570/?tool=pmcentrez

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In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 9:50:28 AM PDT
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Brian Curtis says:
Still hiding from the question, I see, Haynes. How pathetic--but typical of cowardly creationist hicks. Just to remind you, you still haven't answered that question. Here it is again in case you've forgotten what it was:

"So basically, every sighting of a UFO, dragon, ghost, superman, sharks with lasers, or any other outrageous claim made by someone actually did happen because, after all, they observed it happening, right?"

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 10:56:27 AM PDT
John McClain says:
Hi Christopher!

Just to remind you, you still haven't answered that question. Here it is again incase you've forgotten what it was:

So basically, every sighting of a UFO, dragon, ghost, superman, sharks with lasers, or any other outrageous claim made by someone actually did happen because, after all, they observed it happening, right?

Posted on May 15, 2012, 11:27:30 AM PDT
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Our universe exists and has always existed. Our Earth, solar system and even our galaxy and the immediate surrounding universe for which we are aware of is one miniscule corner of the universe. Our planet Earth is only one grain of sand out of all the grains of sand on this Earth. The universe is constantly evolving and to ascribe the creation of this universe which expands into infinity to a god (And particularly to a Christian god) with human qualities, pettiness who watches over every human's deeds, actions and missteps is pure human concoction and fulfillment of narcissistic tendencies along with the stroking of the individual ego. A god with human qualities who created the universe is not only thinking in a limited and on a small scale, but also thinking that is not supported by the existing evidence which also includes the non-existence of any grand stupendous evidence which would leave no doubt that this god or any god exists. All that is presented is a bible book. A book of words on a series of pages written by humans and declared by some self appointed authority that this book "Is the word of a god." The only words that comes to mind is a mixture of delusion and default thinking which was put there through cultural religious indoctrination.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 11:36:50 AM PDT
Hello John,

Humans seem to thrive on rumor, concoction, exciting and stories full of wonder and fancy and anything magical. Just look at all the tabloid rags at the supermarket checkout. Someone is buying this junk otherwise the papers would have gone out of business years and years ago.

Testimonials as you already know are highly unreliable. People like the attention and like the idea of perhaps having their 15 minutes of fame.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 11:47:09 AM PDT
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Agree.

What could God possibly have been thinking when he created us?

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 1:05:13 PM PDT
A. Caplan says:
Scientific Mind says: Our universe exists and has always existed
>Scientific evidence says otherwise.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 5:47:56 PM PDT
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Hello A. Caplan,

Obviously the Big Bang occurred. However, it only occurred in this little corner of our universe. If there was no universe previously, then what existed before the universe? Nothing? Then one has to describe nothing. What does nothing look like? We are part of one universe that is a part of one tiny corner of a multitude of universes. It definitely was not a Christian god who is described and molded to reflect human characteristics. That viewpoint is inane and simplistic.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 5:52:27 PM PDT
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arpard,

We were not created. We evolved and we are just one species out of all the species that have come and gone in the past couple of billion years. Just like Christianity is one of 3000 belief systems that have come and gone in the past 5000 years.

The god concept will cease to exist once we cease to exist as a species. Hopefully H. sapiens will do away with the whole superstition anyway in the next 200 years, but that is being optimistic I'm afraid. All the time the indoctrination keeps churning out a new generation of believers, the superstition will continue to plod forward.

"If you know a man's nationality you can come within a split hair of guessing the complexion of his religion"~ Mark Twain.

"Grown people everywhere are always likely to cling to the religion they were brought up in." ~ Mark Twain.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 7:40:08 PM PDT
Tero says:
Where is this Koonin numbers paper? He does not seem to be as flaky as many people here.

Posted on May 15, 2012, 8:05:40 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012, 8:06:33 PM PDT
John McClain says:
Hi Christopher!

Just to remind you, you still haven't answered that question. Here it is again incase you've forgotten what it was:

So basically, every sighting of a UFO, dragon, ghost, superman, sharks with lasers, or any other outrageous claim made by someone actually did happen because, after all, they observed it happening, right?

Posted on May 16, 2012, 5:26:09 AM PDT
Brian Curtis says:
Still hiding from your obvious failure, eh Haynes?

Why are you so scared to answer John McClain's question:

"So basically, every sighting of a UFO, dragon, ghost, superman, sharks with lasers, or any other outrageous claim made by someone actually did happen because, after all, they observed it happening, right?"

Creationists are so pathetic when they try to act smart.

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012, 5:31:29 AM PDT
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Ferbilini says:
we've all noticed how CH has been ducking John's comment. So basically simple a question, CH cannot even face it.

Not to mention CH's complete lack of any explanation for his so called scientific beliefs of how life really begun.

Pretty darn shabby for dem creationist.

CH reminds me alot of of William Kenney who constantly blabbed that David Ussery was the scientist of the year to rant on about and ignore all other surrounding scientific research in the related fields.(Of course except for claiming that they have nothing)

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012, 7:10:30 AM PDT
Agree we evolved. Don't agree that the god concept will be gone in 200 years. The vast majority of people are either unable or unwilling to use rationalism and science as their life-organizing principles. Religion is much more appealing, and in many ways much more effective. Religion will be alive and well in 200 years.

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012, 7:08:00 PM PDT
Customer says:
Dr.SM, you're fresh meat in here.

I read your profile, so, you probably can't conceive of this universe being intelligently designed? You're a consensus evolutionist, as a Creationist might say.. Or, maybe you'll surprise me and think about it a little?

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012, 7:16:07 PM PDT
Customer says:
we're religious apes, af?
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