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In reply to an earlier post on Aug 15, 2012 7:16:49 PM PDT
Excellent article. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I was reminded again of the key role Peter Debye played in the early days of quantum mechanics and solid state physics. I first became of aware of how important a scientist he was when reading "Great Solid State Physicists of the Twentieth Century" which reviewed the lives of Debye, the Braggs, John Bardeen, and Lev Landau. As the article points out, it was Debye's comment to Schrodinger that a wave equation was needed for quantum mechanics which led Schrodinger to his famous equation.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 16, 2012 5:32:45 AM PDT
tom kriske says:
great paper nova, thanks! btw, a most excellent book on all this is 'the second creation' by crease and mann -- thoroughly enjoyable.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 16, 2012 9:03:05 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
I like that title, "The second creation". hehe.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 16, 2012 9:11:28 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
A simple word here or a suggestion there sitting in class or conference or at the local cafe brings us the facts as we know them. I am always impressed with those who can work on something as if it is the most important thing in the world knowing that many, many, many times it may be scoffed at, belittled and often just end up as the mountain of data that had to be rejected before a single scientific truth is discovered. Praise goes to the curious and the persistent.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 16, 2012 9:14:18 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
Another good title: "The second coming of physics!"

"...'entirely useless' field of physics..." Hah!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 16, 2012 9:15:50 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
"Move over Newton and Einstein, here comes Planck and Bohr!"

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 16, 2012 3:55:23 PM PDT
tom kriske says:
and another in the notable mention category concerning the history of physics is 'the dawning of gauge theory'...perhaps a tad on the sophisticated side, as it reprints a number of the seminal papers on the subject, but still a priceless gem.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 16, 2012 6:13:51 PM PDT
Nova137 says:
Thanks tom. I'll check both out.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 16, 2012 6:34:22 PM PDT
tom kriske says:
well, i'm of the boomer generation, and have grown up thinking about math and physics from a late 20th century viewpoint. only recently have i discovered a gold mine in the works of weyl, eisenhart, veblen, thomas, and many others in the archives of the american mathematical society - all from the 30's and 40's. aside from some notational changes, these guys pose and answer problems in a very natural and intuitive fashion - something that's lost in today's enriched jargon.

similarly in physics, it's great to read about shelly glashow's impetuous behavior at cornell, or the trials of radiation research by hahn and meitner, or the first shelter island conference and the excitement around the lamb shift...

don't get me started!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 16, 2012 6:48:52 PM PDT
Nova137 says:
I often found my old man's engineering and physics books to sometimes offer much more straightforward text, yes. He graduated with a B.S. (E.E.) from the U of W (Seattle) in 1963. I graduated with a B.S. (Astronomy/Physics) from the same in 1991.

As for history of math and science, I am the same. I just couldn't get enough of it growing up. I'm not sure if I was more in love with learning the theories that came from the great minds or about the great minds themselves!

Thanks for some more historical leads to google!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 16, 2012 6:50:26 PM PDT
Nova137 says:
I'll add that I'm loving the EBU paper. I'll have some comments soon!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 16, 2012 7:24:26 PM PDT
tom kriske says:
how about that, we graduated the same year, with more or less the same degree - mine from the desert rather than the rain forest. and i've finished the ebu paper, and liked it. i've thought for some time that state vector reduction could be used as a localized temporal boundary point; and tying proper time into the lapse and shift functions of the adm formalism of gtr seems very natural. it'll be interesting to see how it develops.
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In reply to an earlier post on Aug 16, 2012 8:11:59 PM PDT
Nova137 says:
yes, how about that. Which desert? AZ?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 17, 2012 5:36:27 AM PDT
tom kriske says:
pac-10, dog! not that i'm much of a football fan.

Posted on Aug 17, 2012 8:21:27 AM PDT
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What boggles the mind is that such a massive amount of money and energy is spent on looking for something so small. (Higgs Boson etc) I hope they find it soon...

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 17, 2012 2:57:33 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 18, 2012 3:23:31 AM PDT
Nova137 says:
Well, you will remember that the UW had Emtman and we co-championed with Miami in 1991 (Coaches Poll). I think the AP gave it to Miami. This was pre-BCS of course. Emtman was such a dominant force. I feel lucky to have watched him in his glory days! What a pro dud he was. Shame when that happens. Ryan Leaf of WSU infamy anyone? Ugghh.

No, really, where'd you go? UA, ASU? My step-daughter was born in Tuck Sun and I've been there (and the U of A campus) about 5 times in the past 14 years. Love the desert! My wife wants us to retire there, but I'm not so sure someone from the rain forest can settle in the desert!!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 17, 2012 6:53:09 PM PDT
tom kriske says:
sun-devil. next time you come out this way, let me know.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 20, 2012 10:06:24 PM PDT
<<Good extension of my metaphor.>>

I submit that this "bell ringing" is not really a metaphor, but rather, a literal description of the situation. The CMBR is a picture of acoustical standing waves, just as a bell has inside it when it rings. These standing waves tell us information about the proportions and size of the initial kernel.

for example, see:
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