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Initial post: Apr 29, 2012 10:43:09 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 30, 2012 5:02:08 AM PDT
If you have issues with Wikipedia, you should contact them or edit the entry. Complaining about it here is not going to get you anywhere.

Posted on Apr 30, 2012 10:14:22 AM PDT
noman says:
Bored waiting for coffee to finish:

RE: MFEH says: "You might love to read how Wikipedia spread misinformation:

Leó Szilárd"

**What misinformation would that be? Quick search on academic data base finds 456 results on "Leó Szilárd". A brief scan matches wiki. Also, from Yale University Library:

"Leó Szilárd (1898-1964) Leó Szilárd (, February 11, 1898 - May 30, 1964 until age 2) was an Austro-Hungarian physicist and inventor who conceived the nuclear chain reaction in 1933, patented the idea of a nuclear reactor with Enrico Fermi, and in late 1939 wrote the letter for Albert Einstein's signature that resulted in the Manhattan Project that built the atomic bomb. He also conceived the electron microscope, the linear accelerator (1928, not knowing Gustav Isings 1924 journal article and Rolf Widerøe's operational device) and the cyclotron. Szilárd himself did not build all of these devices, or publish these ideas in scientific journals, and so their credit often went to others. As a result, Szilárd never received the Nobel Prize, but two of his inventions did.

He was born in Budapest in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and died in La Jolla, California."

And, I've got MFEH on ignore so I don't have to wade through his ramblings and I don't actually expect a response. (by response I mean a post with a civil dialog pertaining to the facts)

Posted on Apr 30, 2012 1:45:36 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 30, 2012 1:49:22 PM PDT
Robert Vivian Pound
(May 16, 1919 - April 12, 2010)

Robert Pound put his faith in Einstein, ended up screwing every thing in his life.

(1) Helped withe NMR, his boss received the Nobel Prize

An American physicist who [helped] discover nuclear magnetic resonance.
The discovery of NMR won the Nobel Prize in physics in 1952,[citation needed] though, due to the limitation on the number of recipients and the simultaneous discovery of NMR by Felix Bloch's group,[citation needed] Pound's advisor Ed Purcell received the award on behalf of his group at Harvard.[citation needed]

(2) Never earned doctorate, supervised doctorate graduates

Although he never earned a doctorate, Professor Pound was known as a brilliant hands-on physicist who built his own apparatus.

(3) Got his graduates to do research that no one cared to examine but himself
Pound-Rebka experiment of 1958 and 1964 involved Pound and two graduate students

--- Pound, R. V.; Rebka Jr. G. A. (April 1, 1960). "Apparent weight of photons". Physical Review Letters 4 (7): 337-341.

--- Pound, R. V.; Snider J. L. (November 2, 1964). "Effect of Gravity on Nuclear Resonance". Physical Review Letters 13 (18): 539-540.

(4) Wasted 6 years to prove that GR shifts wavelength by 2.5x10^-15 th

Just Which Equivalence Principle Do You Believe In?

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The Pound-Rebka Experiment

The Pound-Rebka Experiment assumed that Photons of a precisely determined wavelength were emitted at the top and bottom of the 22.5-meter-high Jefferson Tower on the Harvard campus. When the photons from the top of the tower were measured at the bottom, their wavelengths were decreased (blue-shifted) by a small amount; and when photons from the bottom were measured at the top, their wavelengths were increased (red-shifted) by the same amount.

Proponents of the theory of General Relativity make the claim that the results of the Pound-Rebka Experiment are "proof" of the Equivalence Principle even though nothing in these measurements suggests any need for the Equivalence Principle.

The photons are emitted with a wavelength of exactly one. As they travel through the proposed gravitational "field" at the constant velocity of C, they interact with it so that the descending photons acquire mass, momentum and energy from the field and the ascending photons transfer mass, momentum and energy to the field. Thus the intrinsic wavelengths of the photons gradually change as they move through the field.

This is a non-Doppler explanation of the shifts in which both source, observer and all photons are in the same inertial reference frame and the photons move at exactly C relative to both source and observer.

During their time of travel (t=22.5/C=7.5052x10^-8s) the ascending photons slow their velocity by (v=gt=.000000736m/s) and the descending photons increase their velocity to C+.000000736 m/s.

The red and blue shifts are Doppler shifts in which both source and observer are in the same inertial reference frame and each photon is in a different inertial reference frame.

This change in the photons' velocity will produce shifts in their wavelengths of the measured value of 2.5x10^-15.

Mohamed F. El-Hewie

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 30, 2012 3:03:07 PM PDT
reply to Mohamed F. El-Hewie's post:

you spew more misinformation than all of wikipedia and google combined

Posted on Apr 30, 2012 3:04:28 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 30, 2012 4:37:57 PM PDT
Rev Otter says:
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
--Robert A. Heinlein

[edit to add -- this really doesn't add to the discussion, so downvote away!]

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 30, 2012 4:28:34 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 30, 2012 4:31:48 PM PDT
Doctor Who says:
Since you are quoting a source that has 1) no widely available outside reference (such as an entry in the Wiki or any other online source) 2) Was founded by a man with no publications I could trace quickly and no link to any such publications or information about the author on the website. 3) Most of the "essays" on the website make completely ridiculous claims that are contrary to many experiments. (example: claiming that the electrostatic force only acts between one electron and one proton)

1) and 2) scream that the website is not trustworthy and 3) hurts the credibility of the site even further. If you have a problem with information on the Wiki you can check the cited source of the information.
The only reason you wish to accept (or bring up) the explanation given by that website is that it agrees with your position. Unfortunately for you that site is one of the worst places to get any physics information and the fact that you bring it up shows that you cannot judge the quality of your sources. If your position truly had any scientific backing you would be citing .edu sources and papers published in respected peer reviewed journals.
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