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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2017, 9:53:35 AM PDT
I could LEND them, which is preferable to deleting! If only! :(

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2017, 9:51:18 AM PDT
Ah, but you can only lend once. Which is ridiculous... I lent a book to a friend recently who didn't have enough time to finish it in the 2 wks period - so she would like to finish it. With a REAL book I wouldn't hesitate but Amazon, in its infinite wisdom will not allow this! And I was going to delete for space but would MUCH rather lend it to her. Which I can't do - unless someone knows something I don't! This is an unfair handling of the situation. It's my book, let me do what I think best!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 26, 2017, 4:52:53 PM PST
Tamara Ricks says:
Buying text books for college can be very expensive. I understand!

Posted on Jan 18, 2016, 8:47:38 AM PST
Leslie says:
The problem is that you are not buying the book or the file: you are renting use of the book in a digital format for your lifetime. When you die, the license reverts back to the copyright holder. For this reason, if your file becomes corrupted, or you purchase a new ebooks reader, then you can re-download the book. But you do not have the right to sell or "will" your ebooks to anyone else. You don't actually own your ebooks. You have merely purchased a lifetime lease on a digital copy of the book. That's why there is no legal secondary market for ebooks.

If the laws had been written with consumer benefits in mind, then there would be legal secondary markets for ebooks. But the ease with which a file can be copied multiple times and the complexity a workaround would have required meant that the law was written to maximize protections of the copyright holder and the sellers.

The reason you can't sell your ebooks is simply because you don't own them.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 13, 2015, 5:56:53 AM PDT
Garth M@#4%d says:
Good one. LOL :)

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 15, 2015, 12:01:43 PM PST
I own a lot of digital books. It would be nice if my husband could sell them when I die since he doesn't read

Posted on Sep 17, 2013, 10:56:50 AM PDT
parisiangrrl says:
To the several people who find the question pointless... it is actually a worthwhile question. I understand all the logistics behind buying/selling/renting/lending/monitoring ebooks & all the reasons why ebooks shouldn't be resold. However, being able to resell ebooks, especially electronic ebooks is a worthwhile consideration. I don't buy e-textbooks & rarely buy e-books because I know of no way to resell them or make good use of them afterwards. Few people reread books and even fewer re-read textbooks. I need to buy e-textbooks because it is virtually impossible to complete my coursework using a physical book with my schedule & type of classes. However, I stick to buying physical books because I can regain at least a % of what I paid for that (unreasonably expensive) textbook. Since e-textbooks cost about the same as their physical version, there is little advantage.

Posted on Aug 14, 2013, 6:19:25 PM PDT
Sean says:
Not sure if trolling or..

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 12, 2013, 6:11:23 AM PDT
Blinken says:
I think the best explanation for this I've seen on here is - you don't actually own them in the same way you own that physical paperback book. What you bought is a license through Amazon to view the eBook, so there are different terms & conditions associated with that transaction (that you've implicitly agreed to).

Posted on Aug 10, 2013, 6:56:40 AM PDT
domino says:
Hey, I don't think asking that question makes anyone a jerk. I have lots of paperback books that get sold at yard sales to make room for others. Why is this not possible for e-books? It's certainly not something that Amazon thinks is stupid. They're in the process of obtaining a patent to allow them, and only them, to do just that. So...do we all sit back and call each other names while Amazon capitalizes on an untapped option?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2013, 8:56:13 PM PDT
HappyMamaw says:
ps- I really like BookBub.com Theysend me an email every day of discounted and/or free books. Just an FYI

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2013, 8:54:56 PM PDT
HappyMamaw says:
Welcome to the capitalistic society. I have a ton of books that I have spent tons of money on and basically I'm stuck with them unless I permanently delete them? That's wrong on so many levels. And here I was thinking that I would be able to do something with all those Dr Seuss books other than let them collect static in my cloud. Someone PLEASE invent a better system.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 21, 2013, 8:22:42 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 21, 2013, 8:36:39 PM PST
The same laws that apply to print books and allow for their legal resale do NOT apply to digital books. For now, the idea you're suggesting is not only illegal, but cannot typically be done without going out of your way to work around the protections in place to prevent it, which should be a fairly big clue that one is doing something they aren't meant to be doing. People can "discuss" it all they want, but for now the issue isn't even really up for debate. When you buy an e-book, you don't own the book. You own a license to use the book for your personal use. It's a license that comes with no resale rights, and can technically be "rescinded" at any time. Similarly, public libraries can buy special licenses for e-books that allow them to be loaned to multiple people under specific terms, but again, they don't "own" the book itself the way that a physical print copy is owned.

I tend to agree with you. It SHOULD be allowed, provided ownership is fully transferred (rather than the book simply being copied for the second person), but of course that's just one of the reasons it's not currently allowed, as people aren't trusted to transfer ownership rather than copy files. The main problem though is that people overall tend to be lemmings of sorts, as the market has shown. They don't bother learning what the state of things is, and buy e-books like crazy. As people aren't largely demanding rights in regards to e-books prior to purchasing that come even remotely close to the rights they have with physical books, nobody has any motivation to change anything. It's a golden goose right now. Everyone that wants to read an e-book (and wants to obey the law) needs to pay full price for it, or borrow an authorized library copy, or perhaps manage to get it "loaned" to them for a short time by a friend IF the publisher allows it. Regardless, there does not exist the same "loss" in terms of resales and such that is inherent with print books. Thus, why I never buy e-books and still get them in print, after I did my homework on what exactly I would really be getting for my money. If people as a whole would show some intelligence, and recognize how they're being played, and then demand changes, to keep the e-book market going some changes at least would have to happen. But, the way things are playing out shows the vast majority can't be bothered, until the day comes they want to sell an e-book back or have their "license" to a book yanked, or something, by which point they've already paid big into the system as it is. It's amazing how many people still think they "own" the e-books they buy in the traditional sense, when that is far from the case.

ETA: A good example of the way the consumer market is right now is the sale of the Harry Potter e-books through Pottermore. J.K. Rowling actually created what is in many ways the most liberal for-profit mainstream distribution set-up of e-books to date from a major publisher and/or author. People should have been thrilled, and demanded at least that liberal of a distribution of other works (though, without the international purchase element). Instead, many people complain because it's more work to register for Pottermore, or whatever their gripe is. The fact that you could buy just ONE e-book copy for the first time, without needing to convert it via quasi-legal means, and put it on virtually every device on most any account you had went right over many people's heads. They didn't care. They cared it wasn't one-click purchasing. Until people as a whole start to care, there's no point even having the discussion, because nothing will change.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 19, 2013, 2:21:25 PM PST
I think this is a valid question. If you pay x dollars for a digital book, then why can't you recoup all or part of your cost by re-selling the e-book? If you had bought the physical book, no one would question you re-selling it. Let's say you buy a given digital book from Amazon for $9.99 and then sell it to someone else for $5.99. What's wrong with that? I don't have all the answers to the many ramifications that this issue may bring up, but I think this issue requires more discussion.

Posted on Feb 6, 2013, 10:08:35 PM PST
dkpitt says:
I cannot believe people. When you buy an ebook you are paying the author for the hard work they did. And please don't whine about how much money writers make, because guess what, the majority of the writers can't even make a living off what they earn from their books. If you don't buy their books, they don't make money. If they don't make money they can't write, leaving us with writers who are independently wealthy and doing it as a hobby. I imagine the majority of those books would be pretty out of touch and boring.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 8:31:18 PM PST
Cejo says:
I lost full money. I want to study the content of the book. That also not yet done by expecting delivery from Amazon. (Exam also over for that subject)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 8:29:23 PM PST
Cejo says:
An intention to buy an item / book means there is some result is expected with effect of purchase. If the result is not accomplished by laziness of the seller means why customer get its burden. (Now the seller as well as the intermediary never knows did it was dispatched or where it is delivered or did the right person got it or not.) In this case better to keep goodwill of Amazon pay the cost and loss incurred because of non availability and not the part of money it cost.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 5:31:30 AM PST
Maria says:
If you delete them, be aware that a ghost cover will remain on your screen. It is an aggravating thing. I have that problem myself and basically just had to buy the ebook back again. Seemed pointless to have a cover showing a book that I no longer had. And there was no way to get rid of the cover. I've tried everything.

Posted on Aug 30, 2012, 3:25:34 PM PDT
S. Chamney says:
If Amazon does not "reuse" or "resell" ebooks, can someone tell me why, when I purchase a new ebook, it already has passages highlighted by someone else?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 2, 2012, 10:19:41 PM PDT
There is no (legal) trading of e-books. Some people are very confused. You CAN lend certain titles to another person, one time, for a certain short period of time, IF the publisher chooses to allow it. That's not the same thing though, and is extremely unlikely to even be an option with digital textbooks. Those are worth way too much to them on the sale. It may be an option with some of the non-textbook books, but that still wouldn't help you to recoup any of your expense. So, a rolling bag maybe? Or, you'll just have to decide whether the digital price with no resale or trading option are worth it for the convenience, or if text copies you can do something with later are the better option for your circumstances.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 2, 2012, 9:06:12 AM PDT
Jools says:
I don't think you can sell them back if you could it would b gr8

Posted on Aug 2, 2012, 8:46:08 AM PDT
Wow it looks like a simple question has really blown up. I had the same question, which is how I found this post. I am a student - an older student - and I can't carry the massive load of books around campus. I also travel alot with my books. That is why I bought my kindle. Some of my required books, well most of them are not actual textbooks, but I still need them for class. That doesn't mean that I really want them or want to keep them forever. It would be nice to recoup some of my expense in some way. Can someone tell me more about trading ebooks? I hadn't heard anything of the sort. Thanks!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012, 9:03:27 PM PDT
Grindle says:
Please tell me no one is in danger of choosing you as an example to follow
on the path to becoming human or encouraging young minds to ask for information, even though afraid of appearing stupid. Please say no.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012, 2:09:59 PM PDT
Yes, which is exactly why I was talking about actual accidental purchases. They do happen sometimes, when the e-books are bought with just a single mouse click. Why you'd think I was referring to anything else, I'm not really sure.

Posted on Jun 29, 2012, 5:10:48 PM PDT
John G says:
Let's face the facts: ebooks are turning the publishing industry into places they have not gone before. On the one hand, you have 100's of years of history breaking out costs, such as the materials, editing fees, author fees etc. AND new distrbution channels. Look what iTunes did to music and you can see why publishers are afraid.

The reality is that we will eventually have a real market based system. What you are buying in an ebook, is the limited right to read the book. No more or less. Sure would be nice to lend, sell or resell, that right, but that's not what you bought.

We, as readers, can influence the publishers. Only buy what you think is fair price.
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