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Jimquistion - You SHOULD be mad at Diablo III's online servers


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Initial post: May 21, 2012, 1:10:48 PM PDT
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5743-You-Should-Be-Mad-at-Diablo-IIIs-Always-Online-DRM

If you're paying upwards of $60 dollars for a game that you can't play when you choose to play it and you aren't complaining, you're contributing to the biggest problems that faces the game industry. This week, the Jimquisition explains why you should be upset about Diablo III's always online DRM.

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There is no secret that I'm passing on Diablo III because of issues I have with Activision and as we all know Activision and Blizzard are under the same roof now. However one thing I've constantly taken issue with when it comes to gaming is the requirement to be online at all times even when playing single player games.

Now obviously the console owners know every little of this, yet, but in the PC realm the company causing the most issues has been Ubisoft. However Blizzard has made it a requirement to be online with Diablo III and shockingly this has lead to some serious server issues that keep players from playing the game they spent $60+ on.

I don't know how the servers are right now and even if things are stable it still doesn't change the fact that I have to connect to Blizzard's servers to play a game by myself and that is incredibly annoying to me. Often times I like to download a new game or movie or whatever while I'm playing something else offline yet Diablo III that is going to be impossible. In fact you can't even get on a LAN with Diablo III and that is a huge "Wtf" in my book considering how much I, and others, have played Diablo I and II via LAN.

The video above makes plenty of great points and I know Jim Sterling isn't the most popular guy out there in terms of opinions. Still though the video is worth a watch and he does present some interesting ideas like how Blizzard took a problem that was their problem like the real money auction house being abused by dupers or people cheating to build characters or whatever and they made it everyone's problem by requiring everyone to be online.

He also talks about how server issues impact his single player gaming and in my opinion that should have happen. If Diablo III were an MMO I could understand but it isn't and Blizzard having the ability to boot me off my single player game or taking the servers down whenever is just ridiculous. Maybe I don't want to update my game or maybe I feel like playing offline doing whatever I please, I should have these options after plunking down $60+ for a game.

Thoughts?

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:14:30 PM PDT
GarionOrb says:
While it is a real concern, I doubt the servers for D3 are going to be shut down in the foreseeable future. If I understand correctly, the servers for Diablo II are still up and running.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:15:16 PM PDT
Here is my thought, if you are going to require a single player game to have a high speed internet connection it should be a download only game. For some reason that logic makes sense in my head.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:20:49 PM PDT
I have a couple of Windows 95 games kept for nostalgia. I survive that they are no longer playable. I have characters in several MMO's that will no longer be available when those games are shut down. I can deal with the concept.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:21:27 PM PDT
A customer says:
Ohhhhh myyyyyy gooooooooooodnessssssss, everyyyyyyooooooooneeeee stopppppppppppppppppp freeeaaaaakkkkkinnnnnnggggg outtitottotitotttotot.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:22:24 PM PDT
I think the always on DRM totally sucks, I'm glad it wouldn't affect me personally, but it totally sucks and Blizzard should patch it out.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:23:38 PM PDT
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Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:25:37 PM PDT
Joel H. says:
Hi Guys, my fake name is Jake, and i've resisted buying this for an entire week. I'm here for my 7 day chip. I'm also a liar because it hasn't been 7 days.

In reply to an earlier post on May 21, 2012, 1:26:57 PM PDT
Keji Goto the Nerf Herder says:..."considering how much I, and others, have played Diablo I and II"

This is the main reason I won't pick D3 up. I perceive this game as a retread of a game I maxed myself out at with D1, D2, and Titan Quest1 and 2.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:27:55 PM PDT
GyozaSauce says:
*shrug*

Have fun not playing.

In reply to an earlier post on May 21, 2012, 1:28:43 PM PDT
So, one retread per series?

In reply to an earlier post on May 21, 2012, 1:32:22 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 21, 2012, 1:35:34 PM PDT
Ice King says:
I think I've "whined" enough about this. I wasted $60 on a game that I can't play as much as I want. There's not really much else to say on that matter.
I've already gotten another game that I can play whenever I want and maybe I'll try Diablo 3 again somewhere down the line. Hopefully someone will crack it and make it playable offline. Either way, it doesn't really matter since they have my money. I guess it matters a little since they won't be getting any more from me with their stupid real money auction house, but even if the game worked I was never going to use that. Lesson learned though, the next game that does this I plan on staying far away from.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:34:15 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 21, 2012, 1:35:50 PM PDT
A customer says:
The funny thing is that 95% of everyone complaining hasn't bought the game or played it at 12:01am and had connection issues and went straight to meta-critic.

Sad they are missing out on a great game. :/
Anyway, better connection for me!

Oh PS; Every game online wise (COD/BF3/MMO games) have connection issues 1 minute after launch... Hell I have problems 30 minutes after I wake up because I am still asleep, do I complain about it? No, I drink coffee.

Don't ask about the analogy, it sucks.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:39:06 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 21, 2012, 1:39:15 PM PDT
Gamblor says:
When it comes down to it, I can't/won't review a game based on other people's experiences. Sure, I feel bad for some people who have spotty connections, or those who want to play when the servers are down, but that's not me.

If the servers are down, I play/do something else. If my connection is spotty, I play/do something else. I'm not going to grade the game based off of factors that do not affect me (as in, emotionally or whatever, haha).

Blizz made the decision to go online-only. We've known about this for months (years?). And then the game releases, and people go nuts about it. I think people should be more discerning consumers, and know what they're getting into. I knew there might be the occasional downed server or connection issue going into it, and so my enjoyment has not lessened.

All these journalists and forum ragers have played the game. They also played D1 & 2, and are ... gamers. If they didn't know about the online-only DRM, or thought it would be perfect, that's their fault. If they did know, and hate it so much, then why the heck did they buy it?

In reply to an earlier post on May 21, 2012, 1:39:28 PM PDT
In these days of limited free time I'd say so. That's a great question really. I had to think about my personal trend of gaming selection.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:39:51 PM PDT
Athas says:
I have games from win 98 days for nostalgia too, redesigned for modern OS. It's called GoG.

Being online is fine. Being always online isn't. My wife's smart phone's battery life would drain at an unacceptable rate if her internet was always on.

I love technology, but I don't see the need to adopt every aspect of it I honestly don't think I'm missing out not participating on twitter for instance.

In reply to an earlier post on May 21, 2012, 1:44:35 PM PDT
Ice King says:
I was aware of the always online DRM, I just foolishly thought that it wasn't going to be such a big deal. I assumed that with something so wildly unpopular Blizzard was going to be extra sure that nothing went wrong.
So yeah, I guess the blame lies with me for thinking that an unwanted and unnecessary restriction like this was going to be handled better.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:46:16 PM PDT
Why do i have to be mad about Diablo III online servers? I don't even have that game!

In reply to an earlier post on May 21, 2012, 1:46:25 PM PDT
Gamblor says:
Yeah, it all comes down to the individual user's experience.

Like, I got the game on the 15th, had to work, and only was able to put in an hour. I missed out on the servers being down.

So...it sucks that they were down on day 1, but it didn't affect me.

I also would have expected issues - it had millions of preorders, and every single one of those purchasers was going to be online. It made sense that there would be hiccups.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:49:35 PM PDT
D. Tapper says:
I have had hiccups with their servers lagging out and resetting me back in the level and losing gear I obtained, but that is about the worst of it. I spent $60 on Max Payne 3 that I have not opened yet and it does not bother me, I have been to busy with work and other games (30hours and 30minutes of demons souls this weekend) that have not allowed me to play it but that is okay and I do not see why people choose to complain about that aspect of Diablo 3.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 1:55:28 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 21, 2012, 1:59:00 PM PDT
kpsting says:
I'm not sure why do people put "always online" and DRM in the same bag. MMOs have an always online requirement and yet people don't complain about them having DRM or any other draconian security system.

Your problem with D3 being online should exist only if you don't have a reliable internet (but it was known before the release that D3 is online only and you had plenty of time to look for an alternative game) or you think Internet, through Blizz's game, is going to spy on you, your PC and take your personal information off your HD for their gain and your loss. I'm not entirely sure that's gonna happen, though.
For me the servers were up all the way since thursday.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 2:01:20 PM PDT
Sars says:
I understand why everyone is mad, but i havnt had any real problems. a couple times late at night i couldnt log in, but then i just played something else or went to bed. Ive played a character up to level 9 with my wife and it has run very smooth, and with no problems. I have also played other characters with random people and havnt had any problems(very little time with this though) I expect when games come out now a days, that they will not run smoothly. People should know that if you want to play a game with no hiccups, wait a month then buy it.

In reply to an earlier post on May 21, 2012, 2:02:44 PM PDT
It does suck, especially for PC games. If it's a PC game a lot of people will be playing on their laptop and taking it from place to place. It's essentially a portable device and unfair to request it's users have a constant connection.

Also I know ther are some gamers in the military in this thread and having always on DRM means you don't support our troops.

Posted on May 21, 2012, 2:10:52 PM PDT
SuperHiro says:
"Wahhh I can't play D3 and download porn simultaneously" Old complaints really.

In reply to an earlier post on May 21, 2012, 2:18:21 PM PDT
AJF says:
That was an old taunt on people who had slow DL speeds on Warcraft III, "stop DLing Pr0nz"
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