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NRA vs Videogames?

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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 3, 2013, 12:17:26 PM PST
My reaction to this:

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 27, 2012, 12:46:59 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 27, 2012, 12:50:44 PM PST
Sparhawk says:
Incidentally, Mogwai was both impolite and correct, based on Pardee's lack of further participation in the thread.

Conquering people has always been hard. Rome knew this problem in almost every direction except Carthage, where they did not conquer /people/ but rather destroyed everything.

And protecting against guns is much harder than using guns. We have these things called eyes that want a line of clear air to whatever we are looking at, inconveniently located near our breathing apparatus. Bullets to the face will be hard to deal with for the foreseeable future until we get Space Marine power armor.

Edit: Top of the page summary! \o/

Posted on Dec 23, 2012, 8:45:36 PM PST
In my head, I was like this:

Then, I was like this:

Then, I took an arrow to the knee.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 8:25:00 PM PST
DVvM says:
Any group with in excess of 4 million members has a whole bunch of delusional fools in it.

It's practically a law of nature.

Posted on Dec 23, 2012, 8:22:33 PM PST
K. Wendt says:
NRA is full of delusional fools.

Posted on Dec 23, 2012, 1:41:56 PM PST
Isn't really surprising the NRA is blaming video games mostly because a lot of Hollywood writers/actors are blaming the NRA and video games. When something as crazy as this happens someone has to find someone to blame other than the person who burst into a school murdering children and teachers. People are also trying to find a way to prevent this from happening again even though that's not possible. So you basically have different groups blaming other groups because they don't want to get blamed for it.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 1:23:25 PM PST
Not true.

Since 2007, Mature-rated games have been harder for minors to buy than any R-rated movies (tickets or DVDs) or Parental Advisory CDs.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 1:04:37 PM PST
DVvM says:
Well, if you're talking about buying or renting them, probably.

But it's really easy to get into an R-rated movie in the theaters as a minor: buy a ticket to something else, go in the theater of the movie you actually want to see.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 12:53:09 PM PST
Noble Seven says:
But R rated movies is even harder for minors to get.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 12:02:33 PM PST
Agreed. For example, I have no issue with the ESRB. I have no issue with IDing people who buy games. In fact, I think the reaction to that court case by the gaming media was absurd and alarmist.

Posted on Dec 23, 2012, 11:57:50 AM PST
DVvM says:
Moral Panic isn't exactly a new thing, and it's generally uninformed, but that's not to say that we should absolve the people who make and the people who consume such targeted media from promoting and engaging in the responsible consumption of whatever it is.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 11:56:09 AM PST
Sounds like poor planning on her part.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 11:53:37 AM PST
It's a tough call, the girl couldn't say the safety word with that dirty thong in her mouth....

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 11:52:06 AM PST
Bad analogy. The people in that porn video were all consenting adults.

Not a single one of the pixels involved in "Kindergarten Killers" gave consent!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 11:51:07 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 23, 2012, 11:51:22 AM PST
Considering that I am able to play/watch ultra-violent games/movies but feel uneasy at ANY sign of violence (even verbal, if that counts), your comment is right on the money.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 11:47:13 AM PST
Clearly a AAA title available in stores everywhere. On that note, I found a pretty raunchy bsdm rape porn video online the other day, let's ban all movies cause clearly one size fits all.

-on a side note, I almost typed one size fists all, which ironically was the plot of the video...

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 11:40:55 AM PST
Good logic.

The mass media loves to blame something they consider 'niche' or 'new' as a scapegoat. Videogames causing violence is newsworthy (apparently). I find it funny that they never ... (1) blame violent movies and TV (cough HBO) ...or (2) present that theory that people with unhealthy fascinations with violence seek out violent games to play to reinforce their interests (instead of the other one around)

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 7:45:37 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 23, 2012, 7:47:01 AM PST
Violent imagery probably desensitizes us to violent imagery.

Violent imagery does not desensitize us to REAL violence.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 7:42:48 AM PST
RoadKing says:
Point was nowhere in my initial post did I say being desensitized was the issue as was suggested.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 7:42:43 AM PST
"the fact anyone would want to download and play a game about killing kindergarten age kids is disturbing to me."

Agreed completely. However, being desensitized doesn't necessarily make it easier to cause what you have become desensitized to. This is, partially, a mental health issue. It's also an issue of people having access to firearms that they don't have any business being around. If I am a caretaker for someone that is mentally challenged in some way, maybe I shouldn't have any firearms that are accessable. That doesn't mean I'm not allowed to have a handgun in my house, I just need to keep it locked up and out of sight.

Also, a doctor treating GSW's isn't likely to cause him to want to shoot someone else just because he treats others with this condition. I would actually guess(key word there, it's a GUESS) that it would make him abhor injuries sustained by that manner because he has to deal with the families of the victims and explain what damage was done. Try telling a mother or wife that the victim was shot and remain detached. I couldn't completely do it, that's one of the reasons that some doctors have issues with drugs.

I'm going to stay out of the conversation about health care. It's kinda off topic even though you can see the butterfly effect in some cases.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 6:44:04 AM PST
Voice of god says:
I've read that post at least twice, and I sure as hell can't figure out what you think your point was.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 23, 2012, 6:21:01 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 23, 2012, 6:24:26 AM PST
RoadKing says:
So you take a dr as an example vs someone who has mental problems, I see what you did there.

Now read my post over again because no where did you make a point based on what I wrote in my original post, plain lazy. What did I state were the real issues? Violent imagery?

Posted on Dec 22, 2012, 2:37:27 PM PST
I blame the parents. And the bible.

Posted on Dec 22, 2012, 10:37:34 AM PST
"I do think violence in this country is over the top and we are desensitized"

Becoming desensitized to something doesn't make you more liable to participate in it. A doctor may see fifty gunshot wounds a day at a L.A. ER and he may get used to seeing every possible twisted way a person can be mutilated by his fellow man, but it doesn't somehow make him more likely to commit a violent crime.

The idea that knowledge of a thing is dangerous is a fiction. We can plainly see that puritanically squashing every ounce of sex from our culture has not produced a society without teenage pregnancy and rampant STDs.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012, 9:22:23 AM PST
FOGE says:
Yeah... There's been so many more meteors that cut the planet in half than instances like Stalin, Libya, Syria, Nazi Germany, Italy... Where governments were tyrannical over the population.
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