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Sorta OT: Microsoft & Sony rank on Yahoo's list of worst product flops this year (Windows Phone, PlayStation Tablet & Vita)

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Initial post: Dec 28, 2012, 3:24:52 PM PST


To be considered a flop, the company that rolled out the product must have invested significant resources in its development and marketing. Once the product was released, the failure had to have happened quickly. None of the products on our list were on the market much longer than a few months before they were regarded as a flop. Finally, once the products failed, the companies took a sizable hit to both their reputation and, in some cases, their bottom line. One company, Sony, has two products on this list.


1. Apple Maps

When Apple upgraded its operating platform to the iOS6, the company decided to dump rival Google's Maps system and replace it with its own product. When the service debuted in September, though, a host of problems arose. Users quickly noticed incorrect information, such as confusing Greenland with the Indian Ocean. Some images were only in black and white, and some points on the map were obscured by clouds. The fiasco was so bad that Apple CEO Tim Cook wrote a public letter apologizing for the mess. When Apple's senior vice president of iOS software, Scott Forstall, refused to sign the letter, he was shown the door. As the company tried to solve the problem, it recommended using its competitors services. This month, Google maps returned to the iPhone and became the most downloaded app in the iTunes store less than a day after its release.

2. Dodge Dart

Chrysler placed much emphasis on the Dart, hoping it could compete with other compact cars such as the Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla and Ford Focus. The company began its marketing campaign during the Major League Baseball All-Star game with a 90-second commercial featuring NFL quarterback Tom Brady. Even though Chrysler aimed for the fences, the Dart appears to have struck out. Initial sales were as low as 200 units a month. And although Chrysler managed to sell 4,500 Darts in November, it was well below sales of the Civic and Corolla, which sold 30,075 and 22,255, respectively, during the same month. Analysts at tell 24/7 Wall St. that Chrysler did not have experience selling compact cars in the same manner it had selling Jeeps and trucks. Reviewers from Consumer Reports failed to give the Dart its "recommended" rating due to powertrain issues.


3. "John Carter"

"John Carter" was widely touted by Disney, but the ingredients to make it a success were never there. The director, Andrew Stanton, had never directed a live-action movie before. The executives producing the film had minimal experience running a movie production. The reviews were, to be generous, mixed. The science-fiction movie, which cost $250 million to make and another $100 million to promote, opened with a meager $30.6 million in U.S. ticket sales. Foreign sales helped boost opening weekend to more than $100 million, but sales quickly fell. Disney said shortly after the release it would take a $200 million write-down on the movie, making it the biggest box-office dud ever.

4. Sony Tablet P

Earlier this year Sony debuted the Tablet P, the company's attempt to make tablets an even more portable experience. The P features a unique clamshell design, allowing the device to fold in half and fit into a pocket. This feature, however, also resulted in a flaw that ruined the device for most users. In order to fold, the screen is split in half by a large, black hinge, which makes playing games and reading incredibly awkward. Because of the screen split, as well as complaints about the operating system and touchscreen sensitivity, the P garnered horrible reviews. In response to poor sales, the device was sold at steep discount - dropping from $549 to $199 - within a few months. In August, Sony announced it would be updating the Android operating system to the latest "Jellybean" version for the Sony Tablet S, but that the P would not be updated. The company is no longer selling the tablet on its American website.

5. Nokia Lumia 900

The Lumia 900 was introduced at the Consumer Electronics Show back in January, but sales were never able to take off. Although the phone debuted at just $100 with a two-year contract, AT&T soon dropped the price to $50 to improve sales - and even that didn't work. A consistent criticism of the phone was that its screen resolution was weaker than competitor phones and, more importantly, that the Microsoft's Windows operating platform had a shortage of apps. By November, Nokia started selling the Lumia 920, and early predictions for sales of the newer version were mixed. Nokia, once the world's largest mobile phone maker, has steadily declined in recent years, losing significant market share to companies such as Samsung and Apple. In the third quarter of 2012, Nokia's market share of smartphones was just 4.3%, according to Gartner Research.

6. Pan Am

Disney's second product flop of the year comes from its television segment. "Pan Am," which debuted in September 2011, was heavily promoted by ABC. With stars such as Christina Ricci, the show was meant to take off in the ratings. Excluding promotion, the cost of the pilot episode was $10 million. The show's debut was strong, with more than 11 million viewers tuning in. However, by the time the last episode was aired in February, viewership was down to below 4 million. That same evening, 10 million people watched "CSI Miami" and 7.7 million people watched the season premier of "The Celebrity Apprentice." Critics pointed to a host of issues, including a dull plot line and competition from other major shows. There were rumors that Amazon would pick up the show for its streaming service, but the contracts for the cast and crew had expired. The show was officially cancelled in May.

7. Ultrabook

When Intel released the Ultrabook, it looked to be the key competitor to Apple's MacBook. That clearly has not happened. Earlier this year, research firm IHS had forecast that 22 million ultrabooks would be shipped by the end of 2012 and an additional 61 million would be shipped in 2013. However, by October, the firm changed its projections drastically, predicting that just 10 million would be sold this year, and only 44 million would be sold in 2013. The problem with the Ultrabook is twofold. Ultrabooks are highly expensive in a market where pricing is everything - the majority cost around $1,000. But the larger issue is the increasing movement to mobile devices such as smartphones and tablets. "There once was a time when everyone knew the `Dude you're getting a Dell' slogan," IHS analyst Craig Stice said in the firm's report. "Nowadays no one can remember a tag line for a new PC product, including for any single ultrabook."

8. PlayStation Vita

Released first in Japan in December 2011 and then globally in February 2012, initial sales of the PlayStation Vita were encouraging. By the end of February, the company announced it had sold approximately 1.2 million units, followed by an additional 2 million units of software for the handheld game console. Yet sales quickly declined. From its release date to June 30, just 2.2 million PlayStation Vita units were sold, far less than the 3.6 million units Nintendo 3DS sold in just its first month. Recently, Sony has clumped sales of the Vita and its predecessor, the PSP, together to avoid highlighting embarrassing sales figures. Frequent complaints about the Vita were that the $300 price tag was too expensive and that its game lineup was both weak and small, especially given the availability of cheaper gaming through smartphones and tablets.

Posted on Dec 28, 2012, 3:34:59 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 28, 2012, 8:49:04 PM PST
>>Frequent complaints about the Vita were that the $300 price tag was too expensive<<


Downvoting morons, bite me.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012, 3:36:00 PM PST
I'm guessing they were looking at the 3G version.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012, 3:38:24 PM PST
I know that. But why choose the most expensive version to sample the price from when it wasn't the most heavily distributed/advertised?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012, 3:39:38 PM PST
Probably because they aren't gamers. It's a mainstream financial department. They probably looked up Vita, saw the $299 price tag and said, "Oh, it costs $300."

Posted on Dec 28, 2012, 4:08:07 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 28, 2012, 4:08:38 PM PST
Most times editorials like these are like reviews here, personal opinions. With the exception of sale figures I really take most of these editorials with a grain of salt as half the time the editorials are just as idiotic as some posts and reviews here are.

Posted on Dec 28, 2012, 4:19:16 PM PST
J. Pardee says:
This article is written by a writer with Yahoo so I would only take this article with a grain of salt. I have found half of the technology articles I have read from Yahoo ridiculous.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012, 5:23:08 PM PST
AndrewA says:
If the availability of cheap games through phones and tablets killed the vita, why didn't they kill the 3ds? The 3ds's library isn't cheap either.

Posted on Dec 28, 2012, 5:27:27 PM PST
Dang they still forgetting memory card. Memory card =D!

"Frequent complaints about the Vita were that the $300 price tag was too expensive and that its game lineup was both weak and small, especially given the availability of cheaper gaming through smartphones and tablets."

Posted on Dec 28, 2012, 8:09:00 PM PST
Gameresq says:
AndrewA is spot on. Tablet and phone games are simply not a substitute for premium handheld games. The two markets simply do not overlap as much as that statement would suggest.

The Vita just does not have the software to compete with the 3DS at present, though this may change in time.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012, 8:27:16 PM PST
Jawwaad says:
"The Vita just does not have the software to compete with the 3DS at present, though this may change in time."

I doubt the Vita will ever be able to compete with the 3DS with software. Nintendo and their 3rd party developers just put out too many games that appeal to just about everyone. The Vita on the other hand, seems to want to go at the "hardcore" gamers which isn't working out too well due to the fact that most of those "hardcore" gamers are playing the 3DS. Sony or any other handheld manufacture will ever be able to stand the might of Nintendo's handheld market. Nintendo owns that market and always will.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012, 9:11:23 PM PST
Peter Faden says:
I dont know that the Vita needs to compete though. As long as they run holiday specials like the Black Friday bundles, and continue to put out a greater percentage of quality games rather than simply churn out title after title, it will do well enough to warrant continued support. Especially as they dedicate more time to cross play.

Posted on Dec 28, 2012, 9:13:46 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012, 10:08:20 PM PST
Two, actually.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 28, 2012, 11:35:03 PM PST
J. Pardee says:
The Vita already competes with the 3DS on software quality easily. Nintendo obviously has Sony beaten with the quantity of software though. I agree that Sony will most likely never gain the majority handheld market share but as long as Sony pushes the Vita to get more quality games it can definitely gain a wider market.

Posted on Dec 29, 2012, 6:46:53 AM PST
I remember when, back in 2007, everybody called the PS3 a dud. And look at it now.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 29, 2012, 6:56:17 AM PST
Voice of god says:

Yup, still in last place.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 29, 2012, 7:01:19 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 29, 2012, 7:01:38 AM PST
The two million consoles that separates the PS3 and the 360 worldwide is a very thin line. And it will only get thinner.
And it doesn't make either console a flop.

Posted on Dec 29, 2012, 7:58:09 AM PST
I like when Flores gets snappish, it's hawt.

Posted on Dec 29, 2012, 9:41:28 AM PST
John McClane says:
Lol there's 2 Sony products.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 29, 2012, 9:42:56 AM PST
J. Pardee says:
Yeah, but just barely. And how is third place a dud? The PS3 is going just as strong as any other system.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 30, 2012, 5:56:26 PM PST
Frank says:
You keep worrying about Sony's fortunes and your hair will get thinner Flo.

Posted on Dec 31, 2012, 1:47:19 PM PST
D_Strasse says:
I thought the ps3 was finally outselling the 360 worldwide.
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