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OT: Denny's franchise owner adding 5% Obamacare surcharge to customer bills

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Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 10:06:37 AM PST
This reminds me of a verse from a Kipling poem:

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 10:06:46 AM PST
That Emu Kid says:
Obamacare is simply the newest scapegoat for unethical business owners attempting to squeeze their employees, like when companies continued to not give raises or bonuses years after their industry had returned to growth, but continued to blame "the economy." It's particularly disgusting this time because they are bringing politics into the workplace, encouraging the bullying of their employees.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:07:00 AM PST
Oh, absolutely.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:08:56 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
What are you whatting?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:13:07 AM PST
ha, greedy americans wanting health care

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:13:47 AM PST
"Denny's in Florida turned away that bus full of people solely because they were black."

That part.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:13:56 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 15, 2012, 10:15:01 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
Racial discrimination lawsuits

During the 1990s, Denny's was involved in a series of discrimination lawsuits involving several cases of servers denying or providing inferior service to racial minorities, especially black customers.[12]

In 1994, Denny's settled a class action lawsuit filed by thousands of black customers who had been refused service, forced to wait longer, or pay more than white customers. The $54.4 million settlement was the largest and broadest under federal public-accommodations laws established thirty years previously to end segregation in restaurants and public spaces.[13]

These are some of the most notable incidents involving racial discrimination at Denny's, all occurring after the settlement:

A black Denny's customer was told, in 1995, that he and his friends had to pay up front at the counter upon ordering their meals. He questioned the waitress: "We asked the waitress about it and she said some black guys had been in earlier who made a scene and walked out without paying their bill. So the manager now wanted all blacks to pay up front."[14]
Another 1993 incident occurred when six black United States Secret Service agents visited a Denny's restaurant in Annapolis, Maryland. They were forced to wait an hour for service while their white companions were seated immediately upon entering.[15]
In San Jose, California, in 1994, several black teenagers were refused service unless they agreed to pay in advance.[16][17]
In 1997, six Asian-American students from Syracuse University visited a local Denny's restaurant late at night. They waited for more than half an hour as white patrons were regularly served, seated, and offered more helpings. They complained to management and to their server but were forced to leave the establishment by two security guards called by Denny's management. Then, according to the students, a group of white men came out of Denny's and attacked them[18] and shouted racial epithets. Several of the students were beaten into unconsciousness.[19][20]

After the $54.4 million settlement, Denny's created a racial sensitivity training program for all employees. Denny's has also made efforts at improving its public relations image by featuring blacks in their commercials, including one featuring Sherman Hemsley and Isabel Sanford, both actors from the popular The Jeffersons television series.[21][22] In 2001, Denny's was chosen by Fortune magazine as the "Best Company for Minorities."[23][24] In 2006 and 2007, Denny's topped Black Enterprise's "Best 40 Companies for Diversity." [25]

I could have sworn there was a bus incident too. I guess I was mistaken.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:18:14 AM PST

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:19:09 AM PST
Chewy5431 says:
This sounds more like a child throwing a tantrum that his candidate lost, than a shrewd business man.

If Obamacare really does put his profits in a pinch, the smart thing to do would be to quietly raise prices by 5%.

I guess he wanted the attention though.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:21:20 AM PST
That Emu Kid says:
He wants the attention and for people to know it's "not his fault" that prices are going up.

Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 10:22:26 AM PST
He makes some claims about how much he'd have to pay for the ACA for his employees. Are these claims accurate?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:23:22 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
Some business owners are saying it's cheaper to cancel their private insurance and have their employees get on ACA and pay the fines than it is to keep the private insurance.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:23:34 AM PST
I like all of the companies using this as an excuse for moving full time to part time.

Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 10:25:53 AM PST
Dukeshire says:
The Papa Johns D-bag is doing that too. Saying that it will cost 8 million dollars, despite being a billion dollar business! So he will have to raise prices: Of course, he is giving away 2 million free pizzas, which would cover the costs....Hmmmm.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:26:20 AM PST
I've heard this from a couple people actually.

My insurance carrier through work is now charging me an extra $800 a year to have my wife on my insurance as a "penalty" since she doesn't go with her job's insurance plan...

Her job's insurance uses discount vouchers and is a huge pile of crap.

Looking back, I actually make less real money now than when I started here due to inflation and stacking fees on our premiums.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:27:45 AM PST
Soulshine says:
"so why then would he need to add a surcharge to the customer's bill?"

>>"Metz said he will take the extra step of adding a surcharge because he believes the law will eventually expand to include penalties for not covering full-time equivalent employees."

See, he's got a plan. It's a five percent plan, and that's all you or anyone else needs to know.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:28:50 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
$800 a year is cheap, my job charges me $100 a paycheck to put my wife on the plan if she had other insurance. Luckily, she doesn't work. Oh, and that was BEFORE ACA.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:30:37 AM PST
Dukeshire says:
I cannot afford insurance for my wife. It would cost me about 500-600 bucks a month to add her. If she goes to the doctor a couple of times a year it is much cheaper than paying insurance. But it's risky....

Posted on Nov 15, 2012, 10:31:55 AM PST
A customer says:
'He forgot the consumer's third choice: Go eat somewhere else."

No he didn't he said the customers had 2 choices, they aren't customers till they order something. They're potential customers. Obama is just plain bad news, he was the wrong man for the job 4 years ago, I can't believe people voted him back in. No president in the white house for 8 years, I hope this country is still around after his time is up.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:32:42 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
Yeah, because Mittens the puppet was the answer to all this countries problems.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:33:25 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 15, 2012, 10:34:50 AM PST
Ouch. The $800 is in addition to already tripling the costs of my premiums for myself, though. It's the new 2013 penalty, not including the 2012, 2011, etc.

It all costs too much, heh.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:34:34 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
Well, then I'm lucky there. Our premium is staying the same and we are only seeing a $50 increase in our deductible and 20% increase to the out of pocket maximum.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:36:29 AM PST
Country still around? Of course it will still be around.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:36:45 AM PST
Ice King says:
This is exactly the problem with Obamacare. We needed universal, single payer healthcare that isn't linked to where you work or how much money you make. Just like those evil Socialist countries in Europe do it.
What we got was mostly the same we have now with a few minor tweaks and even that's too much for the right.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 15, 2012, 10:38:31 AM PST
some people are just that dramatic and stupid
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