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The War Z interview: Sergey Titov responds to backlash, sale removal from Steam

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Initial post: Dec 19, 2012, 11:43:55 PM PST
Donkey Punch says:

On Monday, zombie survival shooter-MMO The War Z became available on Steam as a "Foundation Release." The same day, complaints began to arise that the game's page in the Steam store misrepresented and exaggerated its content by mentioning features that weren't yet integrated. This morning, Valve took the game off sale, admitting that a mistake was made in "prematurely" making The War Z available for purchase. Valve has extended an invitation to refund purchases through Steam Support, an exception to Valve's usually-rigid refund rules. Those who bought the game through Steam are still able to play it, and The War Z remains for sale on its website.

Following these events, I contacted executive producer Sergey Titov via email to ask about The War Z's troubled release on Steam, if he agrees with Valve's decision to take the game off sale, and what he expects the game's immediate future to be.

Sergey's comments are presented unedited and as they were provided to us from The War Z PR.

PCG: As of this morning, The War Z is no longer purchasable on Steam. Was this a surprise to you, or has Valve been in communication with you after release?

Sergey Titov: No surprise, Valve contacted us to let us know their concerns based on some of the info circulating in the press and we completely understand their need to sort things out and make certain we are communicating correctly to their audience before we relaunch with them. They have an obligation first and foremost to their customers and we recognize that.

Do you agree with Valve's decision to temporarily unpublish the game from Steam?

Titov: Yes, we think this is the best way to serve their customers and we respect their decision. As you know we've been publicly available since October 15. Over that time I think we (the developers) got used to and took it for granted that players knew what state the game was in and how it was a constantly evolving project, with new features being added on and ongoing basis. Clearly the release on Steam introduced the game to players who never followed War Z and we made the mistake of not communicating effectively to the Steam community. Also, during our pre-holiday crunch time with development extending late into the night, there was a major disconnect between our development team and marketing team that resulted in some of the "coming soon" features being listed as current features on the Steam sales page. Namely the following:

1. Servers being able to support up to 100 players-This is actually true, but at the moment we launched the servers were capped at 50 as a result of an in-game survey we had conducted. That information had not been communicated properly to our marketing team that was handling the Steam integration. Currently the servers support both 100 players and 50 players.

2. Map Size-We have always stated that our maps would range from 100-400km squared and that we would launch with one map "Colorado," and then follow up with additional maps in the first quarter of 2013. Nothing has changed, however I believe the wording on the Steam page could have been interpreted as there currently being more than one game world available.

3. Server Rental/Strongholds and Skill Tree-Again, this was not communicated correctly to the marketing team and once it was realized it was corrected.

We recognized the above quickly and made the update to the Steam page within the first day of going on sale, however we completely understand that players were upset and felt that we mislead them. We absolutely take responsibility for these inconsistencies. Ultimately, despite all the controversy that has surrounded The War Z - even since the early Alpha launch, we have cultivated a large and loyal player base that is very active in the game and we want to make sure that new players coming into the game now will be satisfied and feel that they are getting a great game experience.

When will The War Z be purchasable on Steam again? When you do relaunch the game, how will The War Z be different?

Titov: We are working currently with Steam to ensure that they are comfortable that all of our communication is accurate-which it currently is. As for differences-this will be the same WarZ game as available on our own website. For Steam version-our goal right now is to clear up all support requests and refund requests for Steam users.

From our very first hours of being available on Steam and right up until sales were disabled, The War Z was the number one top grossing game title on Steam. We really feel that this is not only a testament to the game's popularity, but also largely due to our loyal and vocal community. We are looking forward to getting things sorted out and being available again soon.

The War Z is still purchasable and playable through thewarz.com, correct? Will the game continue to be playable through your launcher?

Titov: Both the Steam purchased and standalone versions are available to players without any restrictions. That is, anyone who purchased the game through Steam can obviously continue to play it through Steam.

A comparison of The War Z's Steam store description page at launch, and today.
It's since been updated, but why did the game's initial description on Steam not reflect the content of the game? Who's responsible for that error?

Titov: Ultimately, it's our responsibility and no fault of Steam at all. The description on Steam was basically reflecting a list of all the features that either our engine is capable of ( like number of players per server-which can be much higher than 100 for example) as well as our immediate development tasks. The big problem was with some internal communication. As a result of this mistake, our company board reviewed the situation today and we will be making some changes in our structure and with some of our key team members.

The current version of the game changed the amount of time players wait to respawn individual characters from one hour to four hours. You also introduced a paid method for instant respawning. These are significant changes to make as the game appeared on Steam-how would you defend these design and business model decisions?

Titov: Actually this was part of the original design we did for Normal and Hardcore modes. In Normal mode you die and you have a cooldown period before you can play using the same character again. Our original plan was to have this cooldown period be 24-48 hours, but we've lowered it to 1 hour during alpha and beta periods. We conducted a large group survey and asked players what they feel cooldown time should be-starting with 1 hour and up to 24 hours. Most users said that it should be 4 hours-40% out of over 80,000 respondents.

As for ability to revive your character using micro transactions-okay once again that was a convenience feature that we planned from the start. So neither of those features were actually tied to the Steam release itself.

From the alpha version of The War Z.
What does your roadmap look like for features in The War Z-what do you expect to add to the game in the next three months?


Dec 2012-early January:

Improvements in Clan system
January 2013:

Server rentals, introduction of Stroghold maps to public.We're going to basically introduce whole new meta gameplay for War Z, which we hope will change the game dramatically for those who are looking for a more engaging PVE type of experience.
More "barricade" types and new "building blocks" items that will allow you to customize your Stronghold experience.

More stronghold maps
More characters
More items, weapons, content updates
Skill Trees
For the time it was available, The War Z was at the top of Steam's top sellers list. How many copies did you sell?

Titov: We can't really comment on this yet, however the game performance on Steam exceeded our expectations. Overall this is a very good thing for us-even with all the bumps, The War Z proved to be a very attractive game for players. Good thing is that our daily performance indicators-number of concurrent users, number of daily players are growing-despite all the negative press recently. I can tell you that as of today we have close to 700,000 registred players, with close to 180,000 players playing the game daily.

The Steam release was labeled as a "Foundation Release." Why did you make the decision to call it that, rather than a continuation of the beta, or full release?

Titov: Basically as all buildings have foundations, every online game has what you can say is a critical set of features. We feel that we've reached this stage. As we move forward-we'll be adding new features to the game to expand on that foundation. The War Z is a game that we will never call "final" because we will continue to develop and add new features based on community feedback.

How would you evaluate the quality of The War Z right now?

It's definitely a very fun game, though it lacks the polish of titles like COD, Far Cry, PlanetSide 2, etc.-but it's very solid, stable and fun game. And we're working non stop with frequent updates to make it even better. From the feedback we've received from the vast majority of our players, they like the game and feel that it is a good value. I think as we continue to add features that sentiment will grow and we will continue to attract more and more players to The War Z.

How do you intend to win back the trust of players who feel misled by the way the game was initially represented on Steam?

Titov: Well-we really hope that those players will understand that we weren't looking to intentionally mislead anyone. I personally hope that they will give the game another look and find that it actually is worth the purchase-or maybe talk to some of the people playing the game that are really enjoying it.

We are already talking internally about some things we can do to reward those that have been loyal to us and also to help mend the relationship with new players. I'm glad I had the opportunity to do this interview and hopefully explain the facts (without being defensive) and have the community understand that we don't take this lightly.

Posted on Dec 20, 2012, 4:16:53 AM PST
Hmm... perhaps it's because I kinda quick read that... but no mention of a 4 day re spawn cost? thing? Even if your game was complete... that's a silly feature.

Posted on Dec 20, 2012, 4:18:54 AM PST
MrFoxhound says:
Aw... Why didn't they interview the other guy who said that it was the gamer's fault?

Posted on Dec 20, 2012, 4:51:42 AM PST
No mention of the $40 pre-order cost?

Posted on Dec 20, 2012, 5:24:50 AM PST
Soulshine says:
Sounds like Valve's doing the right thing again.

Also sounds like this game isn't worth anyone's time. Have any VGFers actually played it? If so, are you getting a refund?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 5:35:28 AM PST
4 day? It was mentioned about a 4 hour cooldown after death and he said that it was implemented by community feedback via survey. He implied that you could play a different character while the cooldown was in effect. Seems kinda odd for people to want that for normal play. I could see the cooldown for hardcore, however, as an alternative to permadeath.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 5:37:41 AM PST
A 4 hour cooldown when you have to pay to unlock additional character slots don't you?

Posted on Dec 20, 2012, 5:38:30 AM PST
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Ice King says:
I'm wondering who these people were that thought a four hour wait in between respawns was a good idea.
Who in their right mind would think waiting that long in between plays isn't one of the worst ideas ever?
I bet they had a multiple choice poll and four hours was just the lowest option available.
It sure does seem pretty attractive when compared with two days.

Posted on Dec 20, 2012, 5:38:36 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 20, 2012, 5:39:49 AM PST
I love how his attitude has changed now that Steam pulled the game....It's almost as if he realizes that he provides a service, and that if customers feel misled they will say something/won't continue to use said service.

The first interview with him was atrocious.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 5:40:13 AM PST
i have no idea about having to purchase additional slots as I haven't been following the game, and have only taken an interest because of this story.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 5:45:35 AM PST
Especially considering many people spawn next to each other and can be killed while still loading in textures.

According to someone's review they were beaten down by a magical floating backpack while zoning in and lost all the cash shop items they had just purchased for their brand new review character.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 5:46:10 AM PST
Agreed. He bashed players numerous times, making them sound inferior for not enjoying his game.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 5:49:22 AM PST
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Ice King says:
Yes, it was.
And I bet it was the more accurate depiction of who he is. What we're seeing now is the kid who got caught acting like he's sorry so he doesn't get punished more than he already has. The way a person acts initially is a much better indicator of who they are. Especially when they think they're in a position of power like he clearly did at the time.
Now he's just saying what he thinks we want to hear.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 6:52:56 AM PST
It's the same guy Fox, it sounds like someone in the company put a boot up his butt and now he's acting VERY sorry. I'm guessing he realized alienating customers isnt very smart. But its kind of hard for me to forget him "apologizing" that customers read the completely false description wrong.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 6:53:38 AM PST
Sorry I meant hour, not sure why I put day, my mistake.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 6:53:48 AM PST
Or the fact that if you bought the game off their site, they would refuse to refund you, and THEN ban you from the game and block your account from the website.

That HAS to be illegal.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 6:54:45 AM PST
He also said 90% of customers are happy with the game, 30% never have played Day Z and 15% have never even heard of Day Z.

This guys seems to like just making up statistics.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 6:56:41 AM PST
Everything I have heard about this game just sounds aweful...

If you buy things in the cash shop and then die you lose it all, and you can die before you even finish spawning... and you then have to pay to re spawn quickly...

This doesn't make sense! Is this game a joke or a scam or something?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 6:58:47 AM PST
It's a griefers wet dream is what it is.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 7:03:44 AM PST
That's what I was thinking too.

Posted on Dec 20, 2012, 7:05:54 AM PST
McAwesomeo says:
I feel extremely sorry for those that got ripped off by pre-ordering it from them and paying $40 because they lied to the players.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 9:46:32 AM PST
Yeah I saw that in a Youtube video. I mean it was kinda funny but in a "haha this game is so bad" way. The guy zones in, and the game somehow spawned 3 people in the exact same spot. You just see this magical floating backpack and the guy is wondering what the heck is going on, then as he dies you see the backpack guy load in along with another guy, both with flashlight attacking each other. From the looks of it magic backpack guy killed him and as he was dying another new character spawned in to get beat by backpack guy.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 9:59:57 AM PST
I just cant believe alot of the stuff I read on this game after all this. The whole game just screamed cash grab and scam.

I mean heck check out Big Rigs Racing: Over the Road for a taste of how well this guy finishes games. I watched some videos last night and just wow.

I honestly hope his company falls apart and he's blacklisted from the gaming industry, somebody like this does nothing but hurt gaming and likely will sucker even more people in on his next unfinished cash grab....I mean game.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 10:04:49 AM PST
Zynga will pick him up I'm sure.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2012, 10:06:00 AM PST
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Haha, just read about it and wow...

"The packaging of Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing states that the objective of the game is for the player to "deliver illegal cargo, with cops chasing them"; however, in actuality, there are no police in the game or, seemingly, any objectives to complete. The packaging also states that the player must "race trucks across the country" while delivering such cargo; however, although computer-controlled opponent vehicles do indeed appear in the game, they have no artificial intelligence, and never move from their starting position."

"Though there appear to be five courses from which to choose, only four are playable. One of the maps, titled "Nightride", does not function and selecting it simply crashes or quits the game. Upon completion of the race, the game displays a large three-handled trophy and the now infamous text "YOU'RE WINNER !" The game occasionally fails to distinguish between whether the player is starting or finishing the race when they pass through the starting point, and so this congratulatory screen may appear within seconds of starting a game, thus ending the race prematurely."

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