These are the same as the Pampers wipes you’d get from the store. They work fine and if you know how to properly and efficiently use wipes you shouldn’t be going through double or more than normal. They are different from the way they were 10 years ago and even 4 years ago, but they’re still good. These don’t rip like Huggies wipes do (and I even like Huggies wipes when they’re not ripping trying to pull them out), even though they seem thin they are durable. Basically, if you’re having issues with them it’s more likely user error than anything else.