My biggest issue with these Wrangler jeans is they are not consistent in material or color. Differences in material cause different shrinkage, with some pants fitting fine forever, while others shrink so much that I have to give them away. The same color can range from some "rinse" to no rinse. I don't think the last couple pairs I bought (very dyed look) will ever approach the rinsed denim look of my previous pairs. Plus different colors fit and shrink differently as well. I find Levis to be very consistent in material and color (but not across colors), although I like the fit of the Wranglers, usually.