Ihaven't worn Wrangler pants in years (grew up on a farm, but entered in to the rat race and frequently wear slacks) I"m severely dissapointed in Wrangler right now.....I got these pants to wear as work/casual wear. When I got them I felt like I had been thrust into some sort of snowflakes joke of a pant. They fit like skinny jeans, but stretched like maternity pants for women. Couple that with the feeling of having a saggy crotch, but unusually tight at the same time, and the top button hole was so small I just about had to cut the slot bigger to get it in......to be clear, I'm not an oddly shaped person, in fact pretty average. (5'11" @ 195lbs) Wrangler used to be a pair of pants that folks wore to work in, now they're trying to keep pace with the trendy jeans of today. Wrangler.....please go back to what you know, and used to do extremely well!!!