I have a bunch of pants, many pairs of jeans with a 36 waist. I don't know when it happened but they are all too tight. I realize I've been living in denial about this and have been uncomfortable for a long time with pants strangling me. I went to the local store and bought 2 pairs of jeans with 38 waist. I put them up then quickly grab that belt and cinch them up otherwise they'll fall straight down. I order these with a 37 waist. They get here, I wash them and try them on. Perfect fit! I can live again! I'm not strangled, they aren't falling down. They look good. I feel good. I ordered another couple of pair. Thanks Wrangler for making a pair for us between size guys.