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Kindle for vacation in Ireland: which one and will they work well for my needs?

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By J. Goodwin, 05-Jul-2012 13:26 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

"I'm thinking of buying the Kindle Fire to take on vacation to Ireland. My niece thought the 3G would be a better choice, but I really love having the color option of the Fire. Frankly, I want to use the device in place a laptop, and I don't want to spend the money for an IPad. I'm interested in retrieving docs, downloading content from public libraries, and, to a certain extent, accessing Amazon-purchased (or rented) music and video - I apparently receive a free month of Amazon Prime for purchasing the device, so I'm wondering how difficult it will be to download, save or watch movies overseas. In your expert opinion, would either of these devices serve in that capacity? Accessing the net, being able to access or download public library material and having access to my docs are primary concerns - thanks in advance for any assistance!

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By Dragi Raos, 05-Jul-2012 13:32 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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05-Jul-2012 13:26 America/Los_Angeles

"I'm thinking of buying the Kindle Fire to take on vacation to Ireland. My niece thought the 3G would be a better choice, but I really love having the color option of the Fire. Frankly, I want to use the device in place a laptop, and I don't want to spend the money for an IPad. I'm interested in retrieving docs, downloading content from public libraries, and, to a certain extent, accessing Amazon-purchased (or rented) music and video - I apparently receive a free month of Amazon Prime for purchasing the device, so I'm wondering how difficult it will be to download, save or watch movies overseas. In your expert opinion, would either of these devices serve in that capacity? Accessing the net, being able to access or download public library material and having access to my docs are primary concerns - thanks in advance for any assistance!

E-book functionality of Fire will work, as will the browser. You will be able to watch and listen the content you downloaded while still on the left side of the Pond, but streaming and multimedia content purchase works only in the USA.

See here for more details:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=help_search_1-1?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200729430&qid=1341520319&sr=1-1

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By Suncoast, 05-Jul-2012 14:18 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

The Kindle Fire doesn't have a lot of memory; I'm not sure how many movies you can download. In my opinion, the Kindle Fire doesn't take the place of a laptop. Not sure how well it works in retrieving documents. It's not as functional as an IPad.

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By J. Goodwin, 05-Jul-2012 15:52 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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The Kindle Fire doesn't have a lot of memory; I'm not sure how many movies you can download. In my opinion, the Kindle Fire doesn't take the place of a laptop. Not sure how well it works in retrieving documents. It's not as functional as an IPad.

The FAQ says that there's enough memory for 10 movies and I'm fairly sure I wouldn't need or want that many. The Kindle won't offer as much as a laptop, but a laptop is such a burden while traveling, unless for business. And I don't want to shell out the $$ for an IPad - my day-to-day existence doesn't warrant one. I would like to be able to get to the web for information, email, stored data, and perhaps access some travel books using Kindle purchases - maybe the Fire will do that?

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By *🍍*Pineapple*🍍*, 05-Jul-2012 15:55 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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The FAQ says that there's enough memory for 10 movies and I'm fairly sure I wouldn't need or want that many. The Kindle won't offer as much as a laptop, but a laptop is such a burden while traveling, unless for business. And I don't want to shell out the $$ for an IPad - my day-to-day existence doesn't warrant one. I would like to be able to get to the web for information, email, stored data, and perhaps access some travel books using Kindle purchases - maybe the Fire will do that?

J. Goodwin - You might be able to get 10 movies on the Fire if you have absolutely nothing else on it.

From the Fire's Product page:

For U.S. RESIDENTS Traveling with the Kindle Fire:

If you're traveling with Kindle Fire, you can access any content you've downloaded to your device or shop for new books and magazines anytime you like.

With a U.S. credit card, you'll also be able to purchase new apps and music for Kindle Fire while you are abroad.

To purchase, download or stream movies and TV shows, you must be physically present in the U.S. and have a U.S. billing address.

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By J. Goodwin, 05-Jul-2012 16:02 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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05-Jul-2012 13:32 America/Los_Angeles

E-book functionality of Fire will work, as will the browser. You will be able to watch and listen the content you downloaded while still on the left side of the Pond, but streaming and multimedia content purchase works only in the USA.

See here for more details:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=help_search_1-1?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200729430&qid=1341520319&sr=1-1

Hmmm, if I understand this correctly, I can buy books, music and some 'video' (if acquired through Amazon) while still at home and should be able to access this material while abroad. I'm guessing that this material will be accessible from anywhere because it will be in Cloud storage. But streaming? Is all Amazon 'rental' streaming? And, I'm unclear on how public library material is saved, but I believe it must be saved on the device itself. Thank you so much for your input!

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By *🍍*Pineapple*🍍*, 05-Jul-2012 16:08 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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Hmmm, if I understand this correctly, I can buy books, music and some 'video' (if acquired through Amazon) while still at home and should be able to access this material while abroad. I'm guessing that this material will be accessible from anywhere because it will be in Cloud storage. But streaming? Is all Amazon 'rental' streaming? And, I'm unclear on how public library material is saved, but I believe it must be saved on the device itself. Thank you so much for your input!

J. Goodwin - You can't access videos from your Cloud at all while abroad. The only videos you can watch are ones that are already downloaded. And they take up an enormous amount of space.

Streaming means you're watching it from the Cloud. It's not downloaded.

Public library books would need to be downloaded before you go. Keep in mind your expiration dates.

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By J. Goodwin, 05-Jul-2012 16:12 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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05-Jul-2012 15:55 America/Los_Angeles

J. Goodwin - You might be able to get 10 movies on the Fire if you have absolutely nothing else on it.

From the Fire's Product page:

For U.S. RESIDENTS Traveling with the Kindle Fire:

If you're traveling with Kindle Fire, you can access any content you've downloaded to your device or shop for new books and magazines anytime you like.

With a U.S. credit card, you'll also be able to purchase new apps and music for Kindle Fire while you are abroad.

To purchase, download or stream movies and TV shows, you must be physically present in the U.S. and have a U.S. billing address.

Pineapple -

I think our posts crossed. I really appreciate your post. The verbiage is just a bit confusing (to me)
To purchase, download or stream movies and TV shows, you must be physically present in the U.S. and have a U.S. billing address.
I guess I'm confused because what I want to see somewhere is 'watch' - so far I understand that I have to be physically in the US to purchase and download movie content. But if I do so, will I be able to 'watch' this pre-purchased content outside the US. Sorry to be so nit-picky!

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By J. Goodwin, 05-Jul-2012 16:14 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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05-Jul-2012 16:08 America/Los_Angeles

J. Goodwin - You can't access videos from your Cloud at all while abroad. The only videos you can watch are ones that are already downloaded. And they take up an enormous amount of space.

Streaming means you're watching it from the Cloud. It's not downloaded.

Public library books would need to be downloaded before you go. Keep in mind your expiration dates.

Oops we crossed again! Okay, got it - Cloud is streaming. Must download all video to device if I want to watch while outside the US.

Thanks!

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By *🍍*Pineapple*🍍*, 05-Jul-2012 16:14 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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Pineapple -

I think our posts crossed. I really appreciate your post. The verbiage is just a bit confusing (to me)
To purchase, download or stream movies and TV shows, you must be physically present in the U.S. and have a U.S. billing address.
I guess I'm confused because what I want to see somewhere is 'watch' - so far I understand that I have to be physically in the US to purchase and download movie content. But if I do so, will I be able to 'watch' this pre-purchased content outside the US. Sorry to be so nit-picky!

J. Goodwin - As long as it's downloaded onto your Fire before you go you can watch it.

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By *🍍*Pineapple*🍍*, 05-Jul-2012 16:14 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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Oops we crossed again! Okay, got it - Cloud is streaming. Must download all video to device if I want to watch while outside the US.

Thanks!

Yes! You got it.

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By J. Goodwin, 05-Jul-2012 16:15 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

You guys are great! Thanks for helping me understand a challenging concept ;-)

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By J. Goodwin, 05-Jul-2012 16:18 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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Yes! You got it.

Do you know of any way to expand the Kindle's memory? I see that the Nook can take a SIM card, and you could theoretically get another 32 gigs.

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By *🍍*Pineapple*🍍*, 05-Jul-2012 20:55 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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Do you know of any way to expand the Kindle's memory? I see that the Nook can take a SIM card, and you could theoretically get another 32 gigs.

J. Goodwin - No, there isn't really a way to expand the Fire's memory.

There are Kingston Wi-Drives, however, you can't use those with Amazon Instant Videos. You could only use those with videos you've ripped from DVDs, music, etc.

Kingston Wi-Drives:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_11?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=kingston+wi-drive+64gb&sprefix=kingston+wi%2Caps%2C679

You can rip your DVDs to the proper format and sideload them to your Fire via USB cable. You'd then watch them in the Gallery app.

To convert AVI's and DVD's (plus other formats) to the K Fire MP4 format, I recommend DVD Catalyst 4. It costs $9.95. It has several Fire templates to make automated conversions easy. It rips and converts fairly fast and does a good job. There are even further settings to remove black bars if the film doesn't fit the Fire's screen dimensions. It is available for download over at: tools4movies.com
A typical DVD takes it about 20-30 minutes to rip.

Enjoy your trip to Ireland!

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By CBRetriever, 05-Jul-2012 23:02 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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"I'm thinking of buying the Kindle Fire to take on vacation to Ireland. My niece thought the 3G would be a better choice, but I really love having the color option of the Fire. Frankly, I want to use the device in place a laptop, and I don't want to spend the money for an IPad. I'm interested in retrieving docs, downloading content from public libraries, and, to a certain extent, accessing Amazon-purchased (or rented) music and video - I apparently receive a free month of Amazon Prime for purchasing the device, so I'm wondering how difficult it will be to download, save or watch movies overseas. In your expert opinion, would either of these devices serve in that capacity? Accessing the net, being able to access or download public library material and having access to my docs are primary concerns - thanks in advance for any assistance!

and don't forget to get a plug adapter

I have a friend who visited France for a seminar and I met up with him there - he left his iPad and notebook at home and said his Fire worked just fine in replacing them as he could access the internet, his email and download/purchase books

Enjoy Ireland, I did on my visit last year

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By J. Goodwin, 06-Jul-2012 07:56 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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J. Goodwin - No, there isn't really a way to expand the Fire's memory.

There are Kingston Wi-Drives, however, you can't use those with Amazon Instant Videos. You could only use those with videos you've ripped from DVDs, music, etc.

Kingston Wi-Drives:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_11?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=kingston+wi-drive+64gb&sprefix=kingston+wi%2Caps%2C679

You can rip your DVDs to the proper format and sideload them to your Fire via USB cable. You'd then watch them in the Gallery app.

To convert AVI's and DVD's (plus other formats) to the K Fire MP4 format, I recommend DVD Catalyst 4. It costs $9.95. It has several Fire templates to make automated conversions easy. It rips and converts fairly fast and does a good job. There are even further settings to remove black bars if the film doesn't fit the Fire's screen dimensions. It is available for download over at: tools4movies.com
A typical DVD takes it about 20-30 minutes to rip.

Enjoy your trip to Ireland!

AMAZING help! Will follow up on your suggestions asap. Thanks so very much -

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By J. Goodwin, 06-Jul-2012 07:57 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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and don't forget to get a plug adapter

I have a friend who visited France for a seminar and I met up with him there - he left his iPad and notebook at home and said his Fire worked just fine in replacing them as he could access the internet, his email and download/purchase books

Enjoy Ireland, I did on my visit last year

Thanks for the reminder!

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By J. Goodwin, 15-Jul-2012 21:50 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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and don't forget to get a plug adapter

I have a friend who visited France for a seminar and I met up with him there - he left his iPad and notebook at home and said his Fire worked just fine in replacing them as he could access the internet, his email and download/purchase books

Enjoy Ireland, I did on my visit last year

Pineapple, sorry to bother you again, but I have another question I'd like to pose: I'm buying my Kindle here in the States. I'm taking it to the UK and Ireland. While my 'account' is with Amazon USA, I think I can create an account with Amazon UK. Now, if I do so, do you think I can watch videos purchased through Amazon UK on my US-purchased Kindle device? Thanks in advance for any input, insight, or feedback!

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By CBRetriever, 15-Jul-2012 23:24 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

amazon.co.uk doesn't have any streaming videos available on their kindle store

also, if you deregister it from your US account in order to register it tp a UK account, all content (books, apps, music, videos) will be deleted from your Kindle Fire

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By J. Goodwin, 16-Jul-2012 11:21 America/Los_Angeles Permalink Report abuse

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amazon.co.uk doesn't have any streaming videos available on their kindle store

also, if you deregister it from your US account in order to register it tp a UK account, all content (books, apps, music, videos) will be deleted from your Kindle Fire

Yes, I see what you mean now! I didn't anticipate that streaming wouldn't be available in the UK - and the Kindle Fire isn't sold on their website. Maybe I should buy a few and sell them over there? ;-) Thank you for your reply!

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