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1.0 out of 5 stars If you are a former Civilization fan, save your money., September 28, 2010
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This review is from: Sid Meier's Civilization V - PC (Video Game)
I'm writing this review as honestly and impartial as I can, from the prospective of someone that has played the civilization franchise for over 13 years.

Plain and simple, they dumbed down and washed out the game to make it more attractive and simple for a broader market. If you are a civilization fan, or enjoyed Civilization 4 for its strategy difficulty, its complexity and micro-management as well as the decission making problems and interaction with the AI, then save your money and don't buy this game, because all that is practically gone.

The game has been so streamlined and simplified that is border line irritating for someone that has played civilzation for the past decade. The cool changes regarding combat system, resource limitations, hexagonal grid, (which are great don't get me wrong) simple go out of the window when you are faced with a game that honestly seems to be geared to children and very casual gamers that don't like to think too much and see more action.

Added to that, is the poor (and by poor I really mean HORRIBLE) shape they shipped the game. I've had BETAs of games that were in a better shape than this. The amount of glitches, bugs, crashes and general game issues in Civilization 5 are just borderline un-acceptable. And to get the cherry on the cake, they force you to install and launch the game using STEAM, which is an online based service. So, doesn't mather if you bought your nice little CDs, you still have to go through Steam to install it, and use it. Now, Steam by itself is another company that has a reputation for very low quality services, and in this case they haven't improved anything. I suggest you go through the forums of Steam or 2k games and see the quantity of people that are days without been able to install or play normally their game just because of issues with Steam, in top of that you get the issues of the game itself which are below BETA quality.

The cool looking graphics, leaders in 3D talking their languages, and the incredible simplification (I won't go into detail because it's a lot) of the game simply screams "geared for children, consoles and toysRus shelves". Our beloved Civilzation strategy game is gone, completely.

So again, if you are new to the series and like a simplified strategy game to start, this is good for you. If you are an old civilization fan, or someone who enjoys strategy games for its complexity and micro-management then save yourself irritation and boredom and go out to have a nice dinner with those $[...] bucks. Firaxis has potentially killed his 18 year old franchise with this.
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Initial post: Dec 8, 2010 2:56:52 AM PST
Thanks for the heads up from you and others giving this game a low rating. As a long time fan of Civ, I DO want to try it, but I feel I can wait until it drops in price. Besides, i don't think my current hardware can handle it.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 20, 2010 2:33:45 PM PST
Raja Jaja says:
I actually like Steam. I wonder if (some of) the Steam-hate is just a knee-jerk to the DRM aspect of it all. But you do get benefits. No keeping track of disks - I can re-install via download anytime and install to multiple PCs (as long as I log in with only one at a time). If Firaxis /2K supports it, Steam can even synch the most recent saves across multiple PCs (a laptop and a desktop for me). I've deleted and re-installed games for years off my same account and never had to worry about where I misplaced some disk and activation code during my last move.

And though I do need to log-in to install a game (activate it), I can still play the game when not connected by going into Steam's off-line mode. (Click "Steam" then "go offline"). Steam won't record XBox-style achievements in games that report them for that session, but I can still play the games.

Anyway, all your other points may be valid. It's certainly given me pause in buying this until they drop a major patch. But I encourage you to give Steam a shot. Yes, there are a lot of complaints on the forums but that's just a reflection of the sheer volume of what Steam sells. They've won a lot of converts over the years (like me) because they really do add value to your purchase. All other things being equal, I don't hesitate to choose a game on Steam vs. a physical box and I'm someone who resists similar-sounding services like iTunes and AppleTV.

Posted on Apr 22, 2011 12:21:54 PM PDT
J. Martin says:
How on Earth could you come to the conclusion that this game is geared for consoles? It's a PC exclusive.

Also, Steam doesn't have a bad reputation. Perhaps it DID when it was first developed, but it has been patched and patched over and over for like 10 years now (and is still frequently being updated, enhanced, and Streamlined; despite having generally flawless functionality at this point).

Concerning the game needing to install through Steam, why is this such a huge problem for you? Almost every game on the market these days uses DRM, and a significant portion of those use Steam. The fact that you bought it in the retail market instead of the online market is irrelevant. The company wants Steam attached to the game to reduce 2nd-hand sales of the game and to provide at least a very basic DRM protection for the game.

The fact is that with most modern games you are going to have to connect to the internet when you run/install the game because of piracy/2nd-hand game sales. Some games might have SecuROM do it, and others might have Steam do it. At least Steam provides some nice features for the customer that traditional discs don't, and Steam is relatively easy to remove from your PC when you are done playing, unlike SecuROM.

And how is the game more kiddy, or as you say, geared for Toys R Us shelves? Nearly all of the Civilization games have been rated T or E, and none of them have been rated M, so I think it's fair to say they have ALL been made to be playable by kids. This one is no different in that aspect. If anything, I noticed a significant change in the game's art style to cater to a more mature audience in that the game opted for more "serious" less cartoony characters and atmosphere compared to Civilization 4. The art style is more refined, more serious, and less cartoony. How does having improved graphics make the game "childish"? I guess you would also say a game like "The Witcher" is childish because it also had nice graphics, right? LOL. If anything, Civilization 4 appears more cartoony than Civilization 5.
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