These are probably one of the best control shoes on the market. I've worn them for years and they are an old favorite. Unfortunately for me the fit on these shoes has gone narrow and shorter in the 15D. I measured them against a different older pair and was surprised --even the size 16 was only equal to the old 15D. The width 1/4" smaller. I tried these and the Glycerin 10 and no luck. I'm out of the Brooks Beast. Fingers crossed for a new fit in the future so I can use them again...if they do fit you --they are great shoes.