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3.0 out of 5 stars Oh great loudness war, 2011 Deluxe Edition, October 6, 2011
This review is from: Nevermind [2 CD Deluxe Edition] (Audio CD)
The good old loudness war. After getting Thin Lizzy's classic Chinatown Deluxe Edition, I noticed something. It wasn't mixed to maximum loudness. Yipee! Nirvana's Nevermind however was not so fortunate. To your average kid who solely listens to illegally downloaded MP3's on his ipod, this might sound fine, but not to me. It's just too loud. The music has no pop, nothing jumping at you. Very limited dynamic range. You can see for yourself in the customer images I have posted. Think of it as going to the movies and everything is the same volume. The explosions, the gunfights, etc at the same volume of say, a person speaking. Now that just doesn't make sense now does it? There's no oomph, no pop, nothing to make you jump out of your seat, and that's just what this deluxe edition accomplishes. The extras are actually pretty decent, and the packaging is nice apart from Universal cutting corners and replacing the hard outer plastic box with the DELUXE EDITION logo on it with a band that wraps around the digipack that you have to cut through to get to the goods, or you just get a plain little stick on it that reads DELUXE EDITION. It looks cool and all, but it doesn't cut it. I strongly suggest sticking to your original CD and come across the extras on your own. Universal does not deserve your cash on this one.

Tracklist below.

CD 1
Original album
1. Smells Like Teen Spirit
2. In Bloom
3. Come As You Are
4. Breed
5. Lithium
6. Polly
7. Territorial Pissings
8. Drain You
9. Lounge Act
10. Stay Away
11. On A Plain
12. Something In The Way

B-Sides
13. Even In His Youth
14. Aneurysm
15. Curmudgeon
16. D-7 (live at the BBC)
17. Been A Son (live)
18. School (live)
19. Drain You (live)
20. Sliver (live)
21. Polly (live)

CD 2
The Smart Studio Sessions
1. In Bloom (Smart Studios previously unreleased)
2. Immodium (aka Breed Smart Studios previously unreleased)
3. Lithium (Smart Studios previously unreleased)
4. Polly (Smart Studios previously unreleased mix)
5. Pay To Play (Smart Studios)
6. Here She Comes Now (Smart Studios)
7. Dive (Smart Studios previously unreleased)
8. Sappy (Smart Studios previously unreleased)

The Boombox Rehearsals
9. Smells Like Teen Spirit
10. Verse Chorus Verse (previously unreleased)
11. Territorial Pissings (previously unreleased)
12. Lounge Act (previously unreleased)
13. Come As You Are
14. Old Age (previously unreleased)
15. Something In The Way (previously unreleased)
16. On A Plain (previously unreleased)
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Initial post: Oct 17, 2011, 5:53:53 PM PDT
Bricktop says:
I hate the loudness wars with a passion, wasn't holding out much hope for this release anyway.

So far the blue ORG vinyl pressing (all analog) is my favourite, better than the MOFI 200g, German Geffen, etc.

When will they learn, you can't undo this crap, but the iPod people can use normalizing to ruin it for themselves. Very annoying. Thanks for helping me save some cash.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 18, 2011, 2:35:13 PM PDT
Fernando says:
Glad I could help :) I'll have to pick this up on vinyl myself. My retail copy of Death Magnetic has been sitting on the shelf forever. :/ Good old loudness war.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2011, 6:47:22 AM PDT
Bricktop says:
This is the version I believe is the ultimate Nevermind experience - http://www.soundstagedirect.com/nirvana-nevermind-180-gram-colored-vinyl-records.shtml

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 20, 2011, 8:57:16 PM PDT
Fernando says:
I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the link. :)

Posted on Oct 31, 2011, 8:59:21 PM PDT
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Posted on Nov 23, 2011, 7:55:42 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 23, 2011, 7:56:50 AM PST
chris says:
Thank you for posting the images. They say it all. This is appalling. I would be all over this, but now I am boycotting it. This is ridiculous. This is a discrace, Mr. Ludwig should be embarrasessed to put his name on this, whether or not he was forced to make it so loud and compressed
It would be nice if these kind of images were posted for all new cd's. I am afraid to buy new music anymore because you never know what you are getting until you play it.

Are all the songs on both cds this loud?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 23, 2011, 12:29:30 PM PST
Bricktop says:
There are two decent sources you can use to keep track of the dynamic ranges in new albums.

First the Dynamic Range database - http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/

Also the Steve Hoffman forums have lots of people who care about loudness and will often post the graphs (www.stevehoffman.tv/forums)

For example on the DR database here is Metallica's "Death Magnetic" results ripped from the Guitar Hero game, lots of dynamics - http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=7235

Here is the actual CD release with atrocious dynamics, terrible sound - http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=4683

Here's Nirvana's Nevermind on CD as released by Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs - http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=11674

Here's the new one - http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=11326

And here's the bonus tracks - http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=11325

Yuk!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 23, 2011, 8:40:36 PM PST
Fernando says:
To chris, glad I could help. I would suggest you steer away from this release unless you're just a rabid collector. Unfortunately, most of today's people have no clue what the loudness war is. To a lot of people it's just a music you don't have to turn up too high on your ipod. And yes, they pretty much all suffer the same fate. Not as bad as Death Magnetic, but still.

To Stephen, thanks for the links. It's quite interesting to see all the red indicating nasty compression on newer releases.

Posted on Dec 5, 2011, 8:19:11 AM PST
Will says:
Wow! Thanks for those pics. That is a hell of a difference! I don't understand why record labels are putting out this stuff, I mean what's the point? I would much rather have clean, full range sound instead of just loudness for loudness's sake.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 5, 2011, 10:16:12 AM PST
Bricktop says:
Amen Will! What you can do is comment on the Nirvana facebook page, send a letter to the Universal Music Group A&R department and customer service department, and heck even the CEO. It may be little things here and there that finally turn this ugly sinking ship of a music industry around.
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