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This review is from: The Walking Dead Season 2 (Amazon Video)
Season 1 left me wanting more and season 2 has delivered it. As far as the romance goes with Glenn and Maggie, that's fine. It builds their relationship, and what could be brewing between Carol and Daryl. I find that interesting. The fact that Rick wanted Hershel to allow them to stay is because he is afraid for Lori b/c she's pregnant, and Carl. Yes, it's only been a few weeks since he found them, but who wouldn't see Hershel's farm as a safe haven for awhile. There are no walkers, there's food, fresh water, and a house for protection. Except of course for the walkers in the barn. Episode 7 gave it a heart wrenching twist, so I am drooling for the second part of season 2. Shane, even though quite the jerk to some people, tends to save the day. He has survival at all cost in his mind, as would I if I were in that situation. His character is everything Rick's character is not. which I'm inclined to say is going to get him killed eventually(foresight there nothing more). Bronze and muscle is great when dealing with the dead, but not with the living. with all his faults, however, he is my faviorite characters apart from Daryl. I would recommend to anyone to read the comics. They are just as great as the show, and believe it or not, Lori's pregnancy has alot to do with how the writers do the next few seasons/episodes. (Hopefully there will be quite a few.) All in all, I'm hooked on the Walking Dead. One of the best tv series in along time.
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Initial post: Nov 28, 2011 12:56:08 PM PST
I dont get the pregnancy. Is this kid supposed ot be the damn messiah or something or is it to become someone important like John Connor was in Terminator? Lori wont even be able to go hide under a car next time there is a herd because her belly is too big. I havent read the comics, dont care for comics (but I hear there is already deviation like Shane not dying and Sophia turning etc)., but still - why the pregnancy. That is so clichee.
In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2011 3:21:29 PM PST
Despite walkers being dangerous, Hershel's wishes should still have been respected. I would suggest putting walkers he feel dear about in places where it would be hard for them to get out like prison or a fenced well or something effective. Just because the world's a mess don't mean you can just violate people's rule on their own property. Just because law enforcement's gone don't mean you should ignore morality and ethics. Where would you draw the line if you think this way? Somebody like Shane is an extremist waiting to turn. He already scrificed Otis and Dale knows it, who's going to be next when he needs a scapegoat? Shane is a potential danger to the group. His type is loose cannon and hothead, this type is the unstable factor that is the potential risk.
But from the story's perspective, unstable people and stupid people that do stupid things provide part of drama elements and can make good stories.
In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2011 4:10:10 PM PST
@ iliketoys: respect his wishes? What if your neighbor decided to keep violent and insane serial killers in his house? Would you be ok with that? these are vile monsters for cryin' out loud, not wounded puppies. Jesus.
In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2011 1:52:38 PM PST
Well, everybody's entitled to their own opinion on how Hershel handles the zombie matter. But what if Hershel is right about there actually being a way to restore them? If there's a way to keep his love one's constrainted , then that should be explored.
Regardless, Shane just out of line all over the place and all the time. Shane tries to seduce Rick's wife, threatens Dale, kills Otis. If there has to be one bad guy thus far, it's him. He even worse than the redneck racist, Daryln's brother. Shane has no right to wreak Hershel's wishes , it isn't his call as even Rick puts it. If you don't want to put up with Hershel's way, then leave!
But no!! Shane has to act all thug and wrecks up everything, I wouldn't be surprised if he going to threaten Hershel and takes over the farm and declare himself leader and dictator through fear and manipulation.
Without honor and law, chaos and itimidation would rule.
In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2011 2:09:11 PM PST
@ iliketoys: they are DEAD. The title of the show is the walking DEAD. They are gone, finished. Why do you think they look like they do? Because THEY ARE DEAD. Their bodies look like that because other than some artificial thing keeping their basic brain function going they are nothing but animated corpses that are decaying. Remember Jenner said that the frontal lobe, the part that is human doesnt come back - they are dead, decaying bodies that wander around eating human flesh. You seriously think there is a fine line here? Seriously?
As to Shane: I think while his behavior is quite questionable at time, he understands, unlike Rick, that in the post apocalypse, the world functions on different rules. Dale was hiding guns that are their only protection. Of course Shane had ot stop him and threaten him. I would too. It is also none of Dale's business who Shane hooks up with. Shane also had to shoot Otis because otherwise he wasnt going to be able to get away from the walkers and save Carl. What would you have done? If he had stated with Otis, he would have been dead too just as Carl. And he had to open the barn and shoot those walkers - as glenn said - they are dangerous. Hershel's condition for letting them stay was helping SAVE those dead, rotten, decaying flesh eating freaks. This is about the end of the world and survival in it. Tough choices have to be made. What would you have done? Live on little house in the prairie with a dozen zombies outside your door? The character development and portrayal is interesting here as it makes labeling them as bad, good, saint, psycho difficult.
In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2011 3:43:24 PM PST
You can justify Shane's actions if you want. If you are going to go that route, I don't know where you would draw the line. Shane would be able to get away with any type of wrongdoing. Where do you draw the line for that guy eh? Clearing crossing the line and disrespecting the owner. Yes, Hershel has his way, so what? Just because you disagree with somebody give you the right to just break their rules.
That's like saying that if I host guests at my residence, they have the right to violate/break my rules and make a big mess if they happen to disagree with the way I handle my personal affair. Give me a break! I would kick those so called, "guest" out so fast, their head would spin, and "STAY OUT!"
Shane is a violent, unstable ,loose -cannon no matter how much you sugar-coat it. He has no honor, that is a criminal waiting to turn.
I do beleive there should be a good mix of honor and practicuality but Shane just crazy in a way.
Aside from my opinion about justification for his action, this type is great for stories because they can stir up a lot of drama/trouble which is good for story.
In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2011 4:06:11 PM PST
@ iliketoys: well that is what is so great about the characters they created and developed: they arent all good or all bad. I dont think Shane is a good guy. In fact he can be a real d_ck sometimes but it is questionable whether he is a violent, psychopathic criminal waiting to happen. The world has come ot an end, at every corner you turn, there are drooling freaks trying to eat you, he is on pure survival mode and he is sort of like the only person who says it like it is and gets stuff done. If you think about it, he has so far been making the tough decisions no one else was willing to make, like choose between Otis and himself and Carl, or tell Dale to stfu already with his gun hiding and shooting those walkers in the barn. He has said and done what a lot of the other people were thinking and *knew* was right but didnt want to do because of the very reasons you mentioned. So Shane had to come in, be the bad guy and do the dirty work. If you noted in the last scene, he was shocked and saddened to see Sophia in there. He didnt expect that. He did what had to be done in a world that has come to an end. Crossing the line would be if he had shot Dale or if he had started being violent towards anyone in the group (we might get there at some point). I think Shane had some of those "not so nice guy", anger and violence tendencies before the fall and they have manifested themselves since the end of it all, showing that pushed to the max, someone's ugly side that they were able to suppress under better external circumstances - will surface and manifest.
As to respecting Hershel: the man is hiding flesh eating ZOMBIES in the barn; who cares about his wishes. I would have knocked him on his _$$ after the first time he told me he wants ot help the misunderstood zombies. He risked Rick's life and his family's life to save those freaks and drag them over to the farm, he had Sophia in there for days knowing that Rick and everyone were looking for her ansd were endangering their lives everyday when thye went out and risked being attacked while looking for the girl and he didnt say anything. How can you say his wishes have to be be respected. The guy was crazy and in denial and dangerous. He didnt deserve to have his rights on property respected. With that attitude you describe I'm afraid pal you wouldnt survive for two seconds in the post apocalypse :)
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 3, 2011 7:48:56 PM PST
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Well according to episode guide for next episode, Hershel going to kick Rick's group out for loss of his family/friends. And the differences between Rick and Shane are going erupt into a rift. I wonder how the group's going to fair. And that love-sick kitty Maggie's going to lose Glenn. lol. This development should be interesting.
And the group's getting kicked out cuz of Shane. Shane seems like more a threat than zombies. Hershel's group has been fine before he encounter Rick's gang. What makes you think zombies are going to break out while Rick's group are there? Getting kicked out seems worse than having to live on farm with locked up zombies. But there should be some zombie drama with Rick's gang being forced to be out in the chaos again and pregnant mama make yummy zombie chow. lol.
In reply to an earlier post on Dec 4, 2011 2:06:53 AM PST
From a survival standpoint it is good they want to stay on the farm, but there are two issues with that: why stay somewhere run by an out of touch with reality person who requires Rick and others endanger their lives to help "save" stray walkers whom he believes are just ill and misunderstood? That Hershel and his shady entourage are a psycho break down to happen. Secondly: isnt it a bit too early for everyone to already throw in the towel? I mean shouldnt they be looking for answers, like how this happened, if there maybe are large refugee camps with functioning municipal services and protection around? How far this may have spread? If maybe one place on this planet was able to figure out what is going on and maybe found a cure? It is entirely too early in the show for them to settle down - less than 10 days have passed since Rick woke up.
I was hoping this show would be more about the apocalypse, survival everyday and looking for the answers and a way out of this by moving forward rather than being about the characters' interpersonal struggles and feelings. It doesnt matter they got out of the farm, they'll just settle in prison and we'll get the same thing we saw over again.
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