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1.0 out of 5 stars Not Helpful to the Cause, December 19, 2012
This review is from: The Queen James Bible (Paperback)
First of all a few disclosures: I am a gay man and a gay Christian, so my thoughts on this issue obviously will lean in one direction.

Spoiler Alert: This is a King James Version bible with 8 verses edited: specifically: Gen. 19:5, Lev. 18:22, Lev. 20:13, Rom. 1:26, Rom. 1:27, 1 Cor. 6:9 and 1 Tim. 1:10 and Jude 1:7. The price of $ 35 for this is simply uncalled for. Save money, buy Holy Bible: King James Version , scratch out the relevant verses and insert the edits proposed on the QJV's website: Queenjamesbible.com

This is not helpful to the cause of GLBT equality or for GLBT Christians. Instead of acknowledging the difficulties in the Bible, this publication only glosses over them by covering them up. I as a gay Christian don't believe that the Bible should be interpreted against GLBT people, but I also believe that the debate has to be honest, and not use cheap trickery like changing the wording in a select eight verses to prove one's point and to make a Bible "discrimination proof". Do the "editors" not realize that the Bible that they published is also anti-woman? (1 Cor. 14:34-35)

The KJV of course has its own issues being that the source texts it uses (even in its 1769 incarnation) are grossly outdated. So why did these "editors" choose to use a translation that is out of date, and for all intents and purposes not used outside of fundamentalist groups? The simple answer is copyright. The KJV is public domain in the United States and not subject to copyright or licensing requirements. Respectable bible translations (especially ground up efforts) are very expensive and respectable translations used in the course of theological debate (such as ESV, NRSV, NIV, CEB) often have large committees of experienced, well-educated translators. Which brings me to the next critique of this book.

Who are the editors? The book's website is scant on details and simply lists the "Editors". If this is indeed a legitimate effort at debate in this field, I call out the editors to make their names AND their credentials public. Again, every respectable Bible translation effort is also transparent. Every Bible translation I own has at least the name of the head of the translation committee and a way to get a list of the names of the translators and their affiliated institutions. However, with the QJV, there are no details of who "edited" the translation and what if any organizations supported or underwrote this effort. It makes this edition of the Bible highly suspect, and seems to me just to be a money-making venture as opposed to a real contribution to the Church catholic's discussion on these issues.
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Initial post: Dec 20, 2012, 11:41:46 AM PST
Actually the King James version is quite accurate as the manuscripts used have the same wording (in the original languages) as the older manuscripts. This is how we know the manuscripts have been faithfully copied from one generation to the other in both the Old Testament (Hebrew) and the New Testament (Greek).

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Posted on Dec 21, 2012, 4:34:37 AM PST
Pappy Harmon says:
Ian,

I agree totally with everything you said, and you said it very well. I am an evangelical Christian but cannot bring myself to persecute my gay brothers and sisters. We all have to approach God from where we are. As a Christian, I am bound to love my fellow man even if I disagree with them on any issue. By approaching each other in love, we can help each other. God will decide at the Great White Throne who inherits eternal life; that is not our responsibility. May God richly bless you, My Brother. And Happy Holidays.
Pappy Harmon

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 21, 2012, 10:19:33 AM PST
Hi Pappy, thank you for your kind words. I have a more detailed critique on my blog which is at oceanofwonder.wordpress.com

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Rick Freeman says:
No, we are not the judge. But we are responsible for warning others of what God declares to be sin and the consequences of continuing to engage in that activity. To really love others means warning them when they are in danger.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012, 12:45:32 PM PST
Sincerity without truth is deception.

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llbernar says:
No true follower of Christ would persecute another sinner, however, they would share biblical truth. Homosexuality is condemned, as is all sexual sin outside the covenant of marriage between a man and a woman. This Bible is an abomination to a Holy God and does NOT represent His word as truth, it will accomplish nothing except leave sinners comfortable in their sins. The Bible commands sinners to repent of sin, which is a change of mind that naturally precedes a change of life. To truly love sinners is to speak God's truth concerning their sin, and to tell them Christ has made atonement for sin. May sinners who are caught up in the sin of homosexuality cry out as the publican, 'O God, be merciful to me, a sinner!' As a former lesbian saved solely by His undeserving and amazing grace, all because the Lord Jesus completely atoned for all my sins, I can tell any homosexual their life is an abomination to a holy God, but there is hope found only in the Lord Jesus Christ.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 3, 2013, 7:30:03 AM PST
God bless you, precious person!
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